Dogawful Officiating

[AyeDubbleYoo]

  On 27/02/2023 at 14:53, gjohnson said:

His foot clearly beyond all other players, and therefore he is offside

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Not quite, the decision on whether he's offside is also based on what he's doing. Not just where his foot is. 

 

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo

[mattypnufc]

Wasn’t a fucking free kick in the first place. 

[gjohnson]

  On 27/02/2023 at 14:54, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Not quite, the decision on whether he's offside is also based on what he's doing. Not just where his foot is. 

 

 

 

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And that is the spirit rather than the letter

[AyeDubbleYoo]

  On 27/02/2023 at 14:58, gjohnson said:

And that is the spirit rather than the letter

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Nah, the spirit is what it intends to do, the letter is what the rulebook says. The rulebook will spell out when someone is offside, which will include what the player is doing (interfering in play etc). 

 

I guess I know what you mean, just being pedantic for some reason

[mattypnufc]

Also, did they even look at that tackle on Big Joe? Fucking awful. They genuinely need to sort the consistency out as Bruno got sent off for the exact same thing the other week. 

[gjohnson]

  On 27/02/2023 at 14:59, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Nah, the spirit is what it intends to do, the letter is what the rulebook says. The rulebook will spell out when someone is offside, which will include what the player is doing (interfering in play etc). 

 

I guess I know what you mean, just being pedantic for some reason

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Well in that case it's even more offside, as there's no way he's not interfering with play in that situation.

[Sempiternal]

  On 27/02/2023 at 15:01, mattypnufc said:

Also, did they even look at that tackle on Big Joe? Fucking awful. They genuinely need to sort the consistency out as Bruno got sent off for the exact same thing the other week. 

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That was the most egregious. Bruno rightly saw red, Cas should have too 

[TRon]

  On 27/02/2023 at 14:53, gjohnson said:

His foot clearly beyond all other players, and therefore he is offside

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I thought it was offside as well, but not really surprised when they gave it. If it's marginal it's always going to go the way of the royalty clubs.

[OpenC]

  On 27/02/2023 at 15:02, gjohnson said:

Well in that case it's even more offside, as there's no way he's not interfering with play in that situation.

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That's what I thought; why was he there if not interfering with play? But like I say, the coach I know reckons that from a free kick if he didn't score he wasn't offside, the end. I have no idea how it works any more

 

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by OpenC

[gbandit]

What was the deal with Casemiro’s sleeve. Wasn’t it clearly beyond everyone else? Not that I think it should necessarily matter but wasn’t it the reason Isak’s was ruled out against Liverpool? 

[Dr Venkman]

There were at least two identical challenges on NUFC players after Bruno's on Rashford, not given.

[The Prophet]

  On 27/02/2023 at 17:17, Dr Venkman said:

There were at least two identical challenges on NUFC players after Bruno's on Rashford, not given.

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Aye, I remember an identical challenge on Wilson in the second half not being given.

[Mr Pups]

  On 27/02/2023 at 17:25, The Prophet said:

 

Aye, I remember an identical challenge on Wilson in the second half not being given.

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yep, was in a very similar area of the pitch too? 

[Mr Pups]

When Shaw is about to take the free kick, how can they determine that wieghorst is NOT the intended target? surely any fucker that makes an attempt to run forward has to be flagged as offside? 

I bet there's 500 examples of goals chalked off in identical circumstances. New rules? fucking bollocks, it may not be next week, maybe not the week after but we know there will be an exact situation where Man Utd are the defending team where the goal is chalked off.  Corruption, plain and fuckin simple 

 

 

[Sima]

  On 27/02/2023 at 14:50, gjohnson said:

By the letter it was offside....in the spirit he was going away from goal. Would have been disallowed if it was us that scored from it

 

 

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If it was us it would have been disallowed on the pitch and it wouldn’t have been “clear and obvious” enough for it to be overturned.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Having an elite sport where nobody knows the rules is canny worrying when you think about it. 

[OpenC]

Including, quite often, those charged with consistently applying those rules

 

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by OpenC

[OpenC]

There's fuck all need for offside to be as complicated as it is, like

[Geordie Ahmed]

The new system (the one used at the WC and in the CL) that will be used from next season looks much better as it isn't reliance on a bloke with a mouse, who can move the lines to benefit to determine the outcome they want 

[Nobody]

  On 27/02/2023 at 17:28, Mr Pups said:

yep, was in a very similar area of the pitch too? 

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Aye, was fuming when it wasn't given. 

As for the offside, it should have been given if Weghorst attempts to play the ball or interferes with play. Haven't seen it again to say if he does that. 

[OpenC]

If he's in the line for a free kick, it's hard to argue that he's not interfering with play, though. The only reason to be there is to be trying to get on the end of the cross and/or drawing a defender

 

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by OpenC

[The Prophet]

In theory, under the current rules could you not have a couple of players who stand offside and draw players away from the ball as long as they aren't "interfering with play".

[Guest]

People already do that on set plays, standing offside on the first phase, but are onside for the second phase when the ball is headed back across to them. 

[Nobody]

  On 27/02/2023 at 22:26, OCK said:

People already do that on set plays, standing offside on the first phase, but are onside for the second phase when the ball is headed back across to them. 

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Joelinton did it for us yesterday. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Not common on corners though.