Dogawful Officiating

[Tsunami]

Michael Oliver should be fuming. A trip would have been a flick of the left leg to trip on the right leg. What happened was an extended lunge to kick the right leg. It’s a completely different challenge. I had an ankle broken in a not dissimilar challenge.

[Stifler]

I would fucking love it if he got 2 yellows in his next match.

[gdm]

20 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

I don't think it was clearly wrong to be honest. 

 

It was as soft as they come, but it was still a poor challenge.

 

I've seen worse given and stand.

this is where I fall on it. The behaviour and chat around this has been disgraceful from Arsenal fans meltdown, threats and abuse to people that should know better claiming it’s the worse decision in football or premier league football. 
 

the social media age where everyone has a platform to say what they like is something I’m beginning to despise about football. Arsenal fans have become the most pathetic whingy set of fans in the game. Wish them nothing but the worst 

[Hanshithispantz]

Absolutely ridiculous this has been overturned and Schar's wasn't. There was an angle which showed Diaz leaning in ffs 

 

It was a wreckless challenge that by the letter of the law is a red, I don't even see how that's debatable? He lunged in with his studs and missed the ball by nearly half a yard. There's nothing about intent in the rules.

[Dembacha]

Pull a player by the shirt or give them a nudge to stop a counter attack and take one for the team (yellow card), but if you pull someone by the hair, clothesline them or go into the challenge with your studs showing when preventing a counter attack then you deserve to be sent off.

[Hanshithispantz]

Quote

 

A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.

 

Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or [that] endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.

 

It's honestly mental they've overturned it like.

 

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Is it the FA who decide these appeals? 
 

I don’t understand all the different organisations involved. 

[Tsunami]

Social Media and Ref Watch.

[gdm]

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Is it the FA who decide these appeals? 
 

I don’t understand all the different organisations involved. 

It’s an independent commission. Think it consists of ex pros, refs etc. there was a lot of chat about it around Gordon’s goal v Arsenal 

[Bimpy474]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Is it the FA who decide these appeals? 
 

I don’t understand all the different organisations involved. 

 

Arsenal and Liverpool mainly.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Fair

 

Interesting also that almost none of the commentary mentions the actual rule. 

[JLC]

What a surprise. Cowardly cunts

[NUFCDoog]

I didn't think it was a red at all like.

 

However, it's a disgrace this has been overturned. Ref said red, VAR said red, PGMOL said it was a red on Sunday.

 

The only reason this has been overturned is because it's a big club and, the kick off from pundits and social media. If this was Leicester for example, there's no way it's being overturned.

 

He who shouts loudest. Pathetic.

[Kimbo]

Disaster for us if Skelly plays. Our plot failed.

 

But seriously they’ve cry bullied the FA into submission. It was a borderline call, that’s it. I personally wouldn’t have sent him off but I can see why others would. Schar’s red was a far worse decision.

[Kid Icarus]

Was never a red in a million years imo, but surprised they've overturned it and undermined their refs, especially considering the threats.

 

Agree it makes a mockery of the Schär decision and that it vindicates the threats and abuse in the minds of those who did it.

[Tsunami]

Let’s see when Oliver referees Arsenal again.

[gdm]

15 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Was never a red in a million years imo, but surprised they've overturned it and undermined their refs, especially considering the threats.

 

Agree it makes a mockery of the Schär decision and that it vindicates the threats and abuse in the minds of those who did it.

It’s an independent panel. Nothing to do with the PGMOL

[Pablo123]

15 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

Let’s see when Oliver referees Arsenal again.

Semi final versus us?

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 19:35 by Pablo123

[Lush Vlad]

1 minute ago, Pablo123 said:

Semi final versus us?

 

 

 

Hopefully Sky catch him on camera in the stands laughing as we score our 3rd. 
 

Let me dream  

[Yorkie]

Thought it was ridiculously overzealous and I was incredibly doubtful of the process Oliver went through to make the call (not a chance he waves a red pre-VAR imo), but overturning it at this point seems very dicey. It undermines the ref, makes another mockery of VAR and will fuel yet more aggro from the public. The whole culture is so fucked and it's entirely of the authorities' of own making. The Referee Show rumbles on. 

[Lush Vlad]

Michael Brown and Hutchison on 5Live were advocating for an ex-pro always being present in the VAR room. As they would be able to say very quickly whether the player has ‘gone in to do him’ or not. 
 

They then went on to say neither of them know the rules. But it’s not about that and it wouldn’t be what they’re there for. 
 

I’ve often thought about the merits of having ex-pros involved more in some capacity. But this was probably the worst put forward argument I’ve heard. Makes me think they should be kept well away  

 

Also. I don’t think Lewis-Skelly has gone TO DO HIM. But he has and you can easily argue the reckless/endangering an opponent bit. So then their whole stupid argument falls down. 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 19:42 by Lush Vlad

[Lush Vlad]

2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Thought it was ridiculously overzealous and I was incredibly doubtful of the process Oliver went through to make the call (not a chance he waves a red pre-VAR imo), but overturning it at this point seems very dicey. It undermines the ref, makes another mockery of VAR and will fuel yet more aggro from the public. The whole culture is so fucked and it's entirely of the authorities' of own making. The Referee Show rumbles on. 

Read something online that apparently he mentioned the studs and achilles to the VAR team. Which is why they would not entertain overturning it. But not sure how anyone will have heard the audio already? 

[Pata]

That’s a shocking decision. Just more abuse in the future as the cunts felt like it worked this time.

[Skeletor]

1 hour ago, Ste said:

Wouldn’t be at all surprised if the sun has more on Coote than has been released so far and he’s felt forced to do this interview.

 

Ding ding ding.

[Jaqen]

If it was a genuine attempt for the ball it would have been really harsh I think. As soon as you try and tactical foul deliberately and combine it with force or a studs challenge it's fair enough IMO.