Tiresias Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Gabriel Obertan has also shown some promise. “I don’t think Hatem was particularly enthralled with the experience he had there.” I kinda suspect that's the cleaned up version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Fucking hell, the drama queens on here are unreal. It's only been 4 weeks since he was playing in the European champinships. He wont be that unfit. A couple of weeks hard training and a couple of run outs and he'll be fine. Hope you're right. Pardew disagrees like. The way some people hang on Pardew's every word and take it literally is ridiculous like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Ben Arfa must start, maybe cant play the whole game, but he has to start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Fucking hell, the drama queens on here are unreal. It's only been 4 weeks since he was playing in the European champinships. He wont be that unfit. A couple of weeks hard training and a couple of run outs and he'll be fine. Agree with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Fucking hell, the drama queens on here are unreal. It's only been 4 weeks since he was playing in the European champinships. He wont be that unfit. A couple of weeks hard training and a couple of run outs and he'll be fine. Hope you're right. Pardew disagrees like. The way some people hang on Pardew's every word and take it literally is ridiculous like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 I fully expect Ben Arfa to be among those in the starting lineup come the 18th August. All will be well. He's behind everyone else in terms of fitness but he'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 I miss the excitement he brings when he's playing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 I miss the excitement he brings when he's playing 1. He's still alive 2. He's still an nufc player 3. The season hasn't started yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 As it stands, there's no chance of Ben Arfa being fit for Spurs. We're quietly making a right bollocks of this pre season. http://i.imgur.com/Kd01X.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 No way he can start without any sort of preseason. Bad for the team to give him preferential treatment, aside from any fitness or sharpness issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 No way he can start without any sort of preseason. Bad for the team to give him preferential treatment, aside from any fitness or sharpness issues. Yep. Poor from the club to allow him such an extended break. Obertan to start v Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Poor from the club to allow him such an extended break. Obertan to start v Spurs. Marveaux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Who said anything about Obertan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 No way he can start without any sort of preseason. Bad for the team to give him preferential treatment, aside from any fitness or sharpness issues. By that logic, Cabaye wont start either. He was training or playing at the Euros, he will be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 we have a worrying lack of creativity without HBA!! If he gets injured or Pards decides not to play him again next season we could really struggle to create. Obertan is just shockingly poor at times. Sammy i like alot but still has to prove he can create against the cream of the premiership yet. Jonas was fairly creative at one point but has become more and more defensive. Santon looks fairly good going forward in flashes sometimes, although still a question mark over him defensively imo That's why i was fairly keen on getting a Hoilett type of player in who can create on the left of the forward 433. Hope we still do but looking more and more unlikely. The other thought is if we do get Carroll and i think we will if not in this window then next especially if Ba refuses to sign a new contract. Pardew could well revert to hoof it long to Carroll with Cisse or ba playing off him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Lets not forget we've been missing Cabaye, HBA and you could include Marveaux in the list of players that can unlock a defence. Its no surprise we've not been so creative in pre season given the fact theyve played probably 90 minutes between them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Having Cisse and Ba in the team means we are always in with a shout of winning any game. Having HBA and Cabaye gives us a much better opportunity to win games. Pards will be desperate to get them back into the fold but we can't rush them, Cabaye in particular has had long season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 It's still pre-season and we are playing very mixed 11's, it's hardly a surprise and definitely nothing to worry about. Have we lost the players who created the chances last season? No, we haven't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 It's still pre-season and we are playing very mixed 11's, it's hardly a surprise and definitely nothing to worry about. Have we lost the players who created the chances last season? No, we haven't. Exactly, it means very little we still have all players from last season plus more and it seems we are keeping the ball better now. It is absolutely nothing to be concerned about and when we beat Spurs on the opening day all this will be forgotten. Not even sure why people are concerned to begin with, last pre-season was a lot worse than this one and look how that turned out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Don't see any issues with HBA for the start of the season, him and Cabaye's fitness levels would have still being pretty good after playing in the Euros and he could easily play 60-75 mins on Tuesday followed by 90 minutes against Cardiff next Saturday coupled with another 2 weeks training and he'll be ok for the start of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Don't see any issues with HBA for the start of the season, him and Cabaye's fitness levels would have still being pretty good after playing in the Euros thought the same think pardews comments were just a kick up the arse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Don't see any issues with HBA for the start of the season, him and Cabaye's fitness levels would have still being pretty good after playing in the Euros and he could easily play 60-75 mins on Tuesday followed by 90 minutes against Cardiff next Saturday coupled with another 2 weeks training and he'll be ok for the start of the season. My thoughts exactly. While ideal if we had them together on the pitch at the same time more often in preseason, no need to rush them along for a friendly. Roll on spurs and I'm sure we'll see them in the 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Debuchy only made his comeback from the Euros yesterday and Lille are hoping he'll start against St-Etienne in their first league game next week. Don't see why we should have any worries over HBA as long as he appears against Hartlepool and/or Cardiff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Wtf is going on like? Will the rest of the players who participated in the euros be doubtful for the new season? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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