BeloEmre Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Poor from the club to allow him such an extended break. Obertan to start v Spurs. Marveaux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Who said anything about Obertan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 No way he can start without any sort of preseason. Bad for the team to give him preferential treatment, aside from any fitness or sharpness issues. By that logic, Cabaye wont start either. He was training or playing at the Euros, he will be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 we have a worrying lack of creativity without HBA!! If he gets injured or Pards decides not to play him again next season we could really struggle to create. Obertan is just shockingly poor at times. Sammy i like alot but still has to prove he can create against the cream of the premiership yet. Jonas was fairly creative at one point but has become more and more defensive. Santon looks fairly good going forward in flashes sometimes, although still a question mark over him defensively imo That's why i was fairly keen on getting a Hoilett type of player in who can create on the left of the forward 433. Hope we still do but looking more and more unlikely. The other thought is if we do get Carroll and i think we will if not in this window then next especially if Ba refuses to sign a new contract. Pardew could well revert to hoof it long to Carroll with Cisse or ba playing off him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Lets not forget we've been missing Cabaye, HBA and you could include Marveaux in the list of players that can unlock a defence. Its no surprise we've not been so creative in pre season given the fact theyve played probably 90 minutes between them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Having Cisse and Ba in the team means we are always in with a shout of winning any game. Having HBA and Cabaye gives us a much better opportunity to win games. Pards will be desperate to get them back into the fold but we can't rush them, Cabaye in particular has had long season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 It's still pre-season and we are playing very mixed 11's, it's hardly a surprise and definitely nothing to worry about. Have we lost the players who created the chances last season? No, we haven't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 It's still pre-season and we are playing very mixed 11's, it's hardly a surprise and definitely nothing to worry about. Have we lost the players who created the chances last season? No, we haven't. Exactly, it means very little we still have all players from last season plus more and it seems we are keeping the ball better now. It is absolutely nothing to be concerned about and when we beat Spurs on the opening day all this will be forgotten. Not even sure why people are concerned to begin with, last pre-season was a lot worse than this one and look how that turned out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Don't see any issues with HBA for the start of the season, him and Cabaye's fitness levels would have still being pretty good after playing in the Euros and he could easily play 60-75 mins on Tuesday followed by 90 minutes against Cardiff next Saturday coupled with another 2 weeks training and he'll be ok for the start of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Don't see any issues with HBA for the start of the season, him and Cabaye's fitness levels would have still being pretty good after playing in the Euros thought the same think pardews comments were just a kick up the arse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Don't see any issues with HBA for the start of the season, him and Cabaye's fitness levels would have still being pretty good after playing in the Euros and he could easily play 60-75 mins on Tuesday followed by 90 minutes against Cardiff next Saturday coupled with another 2 weeks training and he'll be ok for the start of the season. My thoughts exactly. While ideal if we had them together on the pitch at the same time more often in preseason, no need to rush them along for a friendly. Roll on spurs and I'm sure we'll see them in the 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Debuchy only made his comeback from the Euros yesterday and Lille are hoping he'll start against St-Etienne in their first league game next week. Don't see why we should have any worries over HBA as long as he appears against Hartlepool and/or Cardiff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Wtf is going on like? Will the rest of the players who participated in the euros be doubtful for the new season? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Asked if Ben Arfa would play against Neale Cooper’s League One side, Pardew said: “Possibly, but he is way behind and for a number of reasons.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Wtf is going on like? Will the rest of the players who participated in the euros be doubtful for the new season? No. Mancini said earlier today that Silva and Balotelli are very doubtful for the start of the season because of the euros. Guess there's many others too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Didn't exactly play much Benny, wonder what the reasons are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Meh Pards has proved us all wrong in managing Benny before, he's earned the benefit of the doubt on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I doubt players who i went to the Euro's need much of a pre-season tbh, a run out against Hartlepool and Cardiff should be enough tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Aye, but pre-season's as much about a warm-up for the manager as it is for the players. It's a pity we're not gonna see our 'best side' (personnel/tactics/and all) given a run out before the serious stuff happens. The Euros/Olympics threw a spanner in the works where that's concerned. Fortunately we weren't the only club to have representation at those tournaments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Aye, but pre-season's as much about a warm-up for the manager as it is for the players. It's a pity we're not gonna see our 'best side' (personnel/tactics/and all) given a run out before the serious stuff happens. The Euros/Olympics threw a spanner in the works where that's concerned. Fortunately we weren't the only club to have representation at those tournaments. We will hopefully see our best XI against Cardiff on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Hope so. I think that's a good fixture from a purely footballing point of view, btw. Should be a decent test, with both sides close to full fitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Seen a couple of snippets the last couple of days from the local rags talking about HBA consistency already. Correct me if i'm wrong but he hasnt played a single f***ing minute yet. And he finished last season pretty consistently so i'm not sure where this is coming from. f***ing Chris Waddle gets a whole article in todays Chron about it - by Lee Ryder of course. Ryder being the one who was on his back last season until HBA hit his form then he couldnt get out of his arse. Bunch of wankers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 He was absolutely class at the end of last season. Shame he hasn't participated more in preseason yet, but I expect another great season from him. The football press are completely irrelevant 99% of the time. The nationals aren't much far behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Seen a couple of snippets the last couple of days from the local rags talking about HBA consistency already. Correct me if i'm wrong but he hasnt played a single f***ing minute yet. And he finished last season pretty consistently so i'm sure where this is coming from. f***ing Chris Waddle gets a whole article in todays Chron about it - by Lee Ryder of course. Ryder being the one who was on his back last season until HBA hit his form then he couldnt get out of his arse. Bunch of wankers. Ryder is a twat anyway, no worries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Ryder is a fucking helmet. He spent most of last season cracking on about Ben Arfa not working hard enough, not being quick enough for the Premier League and that NUFC would never be where they were in the league if they had to carry him. All the while bumming Ryan Taylor. The utter fucking goon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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