Disco Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Why wouldn't we want him to sign? Can't afford to waste valuable wages on an injury prone player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Why wouldn't we want him to sign? All the other players will want payrises, the club will have absolutely no choice but to give into their demands and it could go under. [/every failed transfer] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Robert was an awesome player for us, but in todays side he'd be as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Fair point this. If there's one thing we don't need it's creativity and goals from out wide. We're all sorted for set-piece delivery too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I can see their plan now.... Sign Hatem to a 5 year deal and never buy a player again until the contract ends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Robert was an awesome player for us, but in todays side he'd be as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Fair point this. If there's one thing we don't need it's creativity and goals from out wide. We're all sorted for set-piece delivery too. http://www.sitcom.co.uk/saxondale/images/char_alistair.jpg I have to say Ronny, I think you were being a bit sarcastic there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Robert was an awesome player for us, but in todays side he'd be as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Fair point this. If there's one thing we don't need it's creativity and goals from out wide. We're all sorted for set-piece delivery too. http://www.sitcom.co.uk/saxondale/images/char_alistair.jpg I have to say Ronny, I think you were being a bit sarcastic there. What gave it away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Robert was an awesome player for us, but in todays side he'd be as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Fair point this. If there's one thing we don't need it's creativity and goals from out wide. We're all sorted for set-piece delivery too. Remember when we had a choice of Solano Robert and Viana to take set pieces... And Shearer... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Why wouldn't we want him to sign? Amazing isn't it? I mean the logic behind it is unfathomable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Robert was an awesome player for us, but in todays side he'd be as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Fair point this. If there's one thing we don't need it's creativity and goals from out wide. We're all sorted for set-piece delivery too. http://www.sitcom.co.uk/saxondale/images/char_alistair.jpg I have to say Ronny, I think you were being a bit sarcastic there. I'd picked up on this too. Regardless, Robert rarely set foot in his own half much less tracked a runner. So under Pardew that means he'd be permanently benched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I agree Pardew would probably bench him at times, like. Ultimately he'd be forced into playing him to save his job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Why wouldn't we want him to sign? All the other players will want payrises, the club will have absolutely no choice but to give into their demands and it could go under. [/every failed transfer] I see what you've done there, but there's a huge difference between bringing in new players on wages in line with the rest of the squad, and a player who's been here 3 years and proven he's class. Something I'm sure his team mates would recognise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I'm a massive fan but he hasn't proved a great deal so far. Hasn't even proved his fitness really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 This will probably sound really pretentious, but he's been worth it purely for the enjoyment of it all. He's kept me sane. The actual deal is worth it for that, imo. I think £5m is still less than his worth, even with the injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Nah I totally agree, he's literally the only thing I look forward too whilst watching us. Hopefully Remy can add a bit more. I like other players but combined with how rank we are as a unit they just don't excite me at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 fwiw, I dunno where I would put him in Robson's team. He'd be ahead of Gillespie in Keegan's team, I imagine. I don't think Hatem would get into either team if i'm honest, he's great but not THAT great. Sorry, but juste one case : if Laurent Robert was in these teams, I don't see why Ben Arfa wouldn't...Plus 2 complete seasons of injury and a crap manager didn't help Hatem to show all he could bring to the club. You were also talking about "performance". Let's compare the 2 players goals ratio with NUFC, while Robert was playing in better teams and under a manager with a game plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Robert was one of the main catalysts in us finishing so highly. He was a cornerstone of the SBR side. Without Robert it's a totally different team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Robert was one of the main catalysts in us finishing so highly. Like Hatem 2 seasons ago, right ? If you want to compare Ben Arfa and Robert in term of performances (For the talent, HBA is twice the player Robert was), you can't avoid the comparison between SBR and Pardew. I would like to see a fit Ben Arfa for the complete season this year. Despite the very strange Pardew football style, Hatem's still not that bad... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Thing is, as frustrating as Robert could be at times, he actually contributed to a lot of goals. Never underestimate the value of someone who can whip in a quality ball early. CF's always have and always will love that kind of player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Think Robert had something like 8 goals and 17 assists in his first season. Hatem's got immense talent, arguably greater than Roebrt, but Robert was a fucking player in his day and played to his strengths by a fantastic manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Robert and Ben Arfa's Premier League goal ratios for Newcastle are actually very similar (goal every 4.7 games for Ben Arfa vs a goal every 4.3 games for Robert). Of course so far Ben Arfa's been playing less games than Robert did, which is why he only has 10 Premier League goals in his 3 years so far compared to Roberts 30 Premier League goals in 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Both Keegan and Robson would have found a place for Ben Arfa and both would have got more out of him than we currently do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Pretty certain we spent all of the season we finished 5th in, in the top 5, before Hatem got into the side. Clean sheets + Ba's goals took us there. Regardless, as a Newcastle player Robert > HBA. By a mile. HBA's behind Solano too for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Robert did more then Ben Arfa has for Newcastle so far. Though Ben Arfa does contribute more in general play and his goal scoring record per game is as good. Really the problem so far has been injuries and being in a side where him saving us means us scraping through a game to help us avoid relegation or at best get into the top 6. Rather than being in a position to put us top of the league like Robert did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Pretty certain we spent all of the season we finished 5th in, in the top 5, before Hatem got into the side. Clean sheets + Ba's goals took us there. Regardless, as a Newcastle player Robert > HBA. By a mile. HBA's behind Solano too for me. Robert was allowed to play his game, that makes a massive difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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