Pata Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yesterday really exposed the problem with HBAs schoolyard dribbling. The rest of the team have forgotten how to play. I blame AP for not integrating HBAs talent into a team structure. Just letting him run around in an ill disciplined frenzy of ball hogging is plain lazy If you have player like HBA you want him on the ball as much as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Not if its to the detriment of team play, which it was been this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Not if its to the detriment of team play, which it was been this season. It wouldn't be if the manager set up the team correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yesterday really exposed the problem with HBAs schoolyard dribbling. The rest of the team have forgotten how to play. I blame AP for not integrating HBAs talent into a team structure. Just letting him run around in an ill disciplined frenzy of ball hogging is plain lazy I guarantee you if we had more movement around him Ben Arfa would pass more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 There's no point in passing the ball as there's no movement off the ball and HBA knows best option is to go past 3 players himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yesterday really exposed the problem with HBAs schoolyard dribbling. The rest of the team have forgotten how to play. I blame AP for not integrating HBAs talent into a team structure. Just letting him run around in an ill disciplined frenzy of ball hogging is plain lazy I guarantee you if we had more movement around him Ben Arfa would pass more. I'm sure he would. Getting the most out of HBA means getting the ball to him in dangerous positions, not him chasing around looking for the ball. He'd do far more damage trying to beat one or two men than starting in his own half and trying to beat a whole team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yesterday really exposed the problem with HBAs schoolyard dribbling. The rest of the team have forgotten how to play. I blame AP for not integrating HBAs talent into a team structure. Just letting him run around in an ill disciplined frenzy of ball hogging is plain lazy I guarantee you if we had more movement around him Ben Arfa would pass more. I'm sure he would. Getting the most out of HBA means getting the ball to him in dangerous positions, not him chasing around looking for the ball. He'd do far more damage trying to beat one or two men than starting in his own half and trying to beat a whole team. Absolutely correct. This means he needs to play as far up the pitch as possible. Either as a second striker, or central just behind the front two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Right side of a front 3 with freedom to roam like Mata and Hazard are for Chelsea ( atleast under Di Matteo anyway) would work too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spiria Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Right side of a front 3 with freedom to roam like Mata and Hazard are for Chelsea ( atleast under Di Matteo anyway) would work too. I also think that it is his best position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 He should really just be on the pitch with complete freedom to play his game. Sure put him on the right of a front 3 or behind the two central strikers and just ask that he comes back to help out in defense when he can/we need it. But other than that, he'll quickly identify who who can take and what he can do and just dominate. Give him some observations when he can and give him a quick run-down at half-time on some things he could improve on or things he could take advantage on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vinkent Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Right side of a front 3 with freedom to roam like Mata and Hazard are for Chelsea ( atleast under Di Matteo anyway) would work too. West Brom away last season. He was lethal. As were Cisse's off the ball runs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Help us Obi Wan Kenobie Hatem Ben Arfa, you're our only hope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Right side of a front 3 with freedom to roam like Mata and Hazard are for Chelsea ( atleast under Di Matteo anyway) would work too. West Brom away last season. He was lethal. As were Cisse's off the ball runs WBA away last season was the best i have seen us in a long time. So much pace and movement all over the place. We used our players to their strength, i thought we had turned the corner then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We did but then we somehow proceeded to turn that corner and smash into an upcoming wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 The first half against Stoke was class as well. Ben Arfa absolutely took the piss out of them, sure at one point Palacios actually rugby tackled him as it was the only way to stop him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We demolished stoke twice last season both times were magnificent. First time round we played better on the wings (remember it being one of Obertan's few good games), trolled them with towelling off throw ins and Ba was brilliantly clinical. Second time round we did what is apparently difficult to do to stoke and play great football against them, Cabaye's best game for us, not just cos he scored twice but he just bossed the midfield in every way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We demolished stoke twice last season both times were magnificent. First time round we played better on the wings (remember it being one of Obertan's few good games), trolled them with towelling off throw ins and Ba was brilliantly clinical. Second time round we did what is apparently difficult to do to stoke and play great football against them, Cabaye's best game for us, not just cos he scored twice but he just bossed the midfield in every way. That through ball to Cisse was as amazing as was Cisse's off the ball movement to get on the end of it. Sort it out Pards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 The home game against Stoke was ridiculous we f*cking took the piss could have easily been 7 or 8 can't believe how it's gone all downhill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hydeous Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Let's just watch the match replay from last season this wednesday instead of 90 minutes of football that's going to make me want to kill myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Let's just watch the match replay from last season this wednesday instead of 90 minutes of football that's going to make me want to kill myself. Great idea tbh. I might do this actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We demolished stoke twice last season both times were magnificent. First time round we played better on the wings (remember it being one of Obertan's few good games), trolled them with towelling off throw ins and Ba was brilliantly clinical. Second time round we did what is apparently difficult to do to stoke and play great football against them, Cabaye's best game for us, not just cos he scored twice but he just bossed the midfield in every way. After the away game I was so impressed with Pardew. He basically crowded the wings knowing Stoke have Delap and some other class midfielder in the middle and can't create shit from there. Everybody kept saying Paredw found a way to stop Stoke's horrible but somewhat effective style. Sort it out Pards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our high pressure and closing-down was ridiculous. We absolutely bossed them the entire match, literally felt like we were taking the piss too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I miss Hatem already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 This lad not leaving in January would be a successful window for me. Whole team is lost without him and Cabaye. No creativity what so ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Not a huge amount with them, either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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