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He's not playing well but he's been asked to do too much. He can't win games on his own. We simply aren't a solid enough team playing the attacking football needed for him to shine.

 

Bollocks. The kid doesn't know when he's running into a brick wall. He goes missing for 65% of the game, he can't pick a pass and he's unfit.

 

He needs games but those games can't be important ones, he tends to go missing in them.

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Jesus christ the defense of him on here, yes he is such a technically gifted player but he is a shocking footballer. Does not take match fitness to cross a f***ing ball first time, it does not require 15 b****** step overs, no need to beat your man 10 times first.

Tis s not his stage to show off, he is part of a team and he needs to f***ing play like it.

The odd wonder goal now and then does not mean he is a great player.

How many times did he lose the ball today and just watch as a mackem c*** just trotted away from him with it, for their third he just dropped to the fkn ground man.

 

If we can sell him and replace him with Cabella we should do it, ues I know all about of c*** of an owner and the real lack of possibility that could happen but still.

 

So yeah come on jump all over this defend Benny the great, not saying he was the only one, I'm just getting started here.

 

Worst post of 2014 candidate that.

 

I dunno, behind the swearing, the point stands - Ben Arfa cannot even do the basics right at present, and had a shocking game

 

I swear to god that's absolute bullshit. Sure he didn't have a good game by any means, but he's the least of our problem. Ben Arfa has played well most games where he's started on the right, why change from that? Why move him from a position he did pretty well in once again on Tuesday? Why move him centrally, a place where he gets less time on the ball and is more vulnerable to pressure from more players? He's not a bad footballer, he's just being used terribly wrong. He's the most gifted player and footballer in the club, remember the season we finished fifth when he created I don't know how many goals (some from crosses, think against Stoke and Liverpool). Ben Arfa gets a lot of stick for not releasing the ball earlier, for ballhogging and much more, and while it happens more often with him, it will happen very often with him.

 

Look at a player like Neymar, CRonaldo, Robben, Ribery they all lose the ball plenty during games, but we don't see the manager switching their positions just because they lost the ball do we? When you have a player like Ben Arfa that can produce magic and create stuff you don't leave him on the bench, and you don't move him from a position where he is doing well.

 

It's all down to the manager. Let him play, let him flow, if he loses the ball 50times, let him do it, because unfortunately we have f*** else on the pitch to create for us at the moment.

 

Look I'm not either/or here, I agree with what you are saying about inept management of him, and said earlier in the thread about him being played out of position. I just also happen to think that he played shit today, and when he is in possession of the ball, makes poor decisions. If he is so damn good, he should still be able to affect the game regardless of where he is played across the front 3. This does not mean I'm a Pardew apologist. Pardew has fucked him over on the last 2 derby's because of his fear of the opposition, which contributes to the whole picture, but Ben Arfa's decision making was rancid at times today.

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He's not playing well but he's been asked to do too much. He can't win games on his own. We simply aren't a solid enough team playing the attacking football needed for him to shine.

 

Bollocks. The kid doesn't know when he's running into a brick wall. He goes missing for 65% of the game, he can't pick a pass and he's unfit.

 

He needs games but those games can't be important ones, he tends to go missing in them.

 

He needs to find a football club.

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If people want somebody who won't give the ball away why don't we get somebody s**** like Leon Britton and we'll see how much we create then. Every good attacking player in the world loses the ball from time to time

 

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Anita and Santon were pure garbage. Both completely overwhelmed.

 

Anita will be okay, no surprise he struggled really, he needs another quality midfielder in and around him.

 

Santon on the other hand?! That dude is one effeminate mofo. Send his mum and her meatballs back to Italy if she's still there molly coddling him, and get him to grow some damn balls. What a soft sorry man he is, with his pansy blonde streaks in his damn head. Disgrace of a man.

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Anita and Santon were pure garbage. Both completely overwhelmed.

 

Anita will be okay, no surprise he struggled really, he needs another quality midfielder in and around him.

 

Santon on the other hand?! That dude is one effeminate mofo. Send his mum and her meatballs back to Italy if she's still there molly coddling him, and get him to grow some damn balls. What a soft sorry man he is, with his pansy blonde streaks in his damn head. Disgrace of a man.

 

Anita just needs to play in a passing team, he's shown he's very good in that situation. If you are playing hoofball though, then a 5'4 midfielder isn't going to be much use.

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Anita and Santon were pure garbage. Both completely overwhelmed.

 

Anita will be okay, no surprise he struggled really, he needs another quality midfielder in and around him.

 

Santon on the other hand?! That dude is one effeminate mofo. Send his mum and her meatballs back to Italy if she's still there molly coddling him, and get him to grow some damn balls. What a soft sorry man he is, with his pansy blonde streaks in his damn head. Disgrace of a man.

 

Anita just needs to play in a passing team, he's shown he's very good in that situation. If you are playing hoofball though, then a 5'4 midfielder isn't going to be much use.

 

:thup:. Find it difficult to criticise the likes of Anita and HBA today given the way the team was set up to play.

 

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Anita and Santon were pure garbage. Both completely overwhelmed.

 

Anita will be okay, no surprise he struggled really, he needs another quality midfielder in and around him.

 

Santon on the other hand?! That dude is one effeminate mofo. Send his mum and her meatballs back to Italy if she's still there molly coddling him, and get him to grow some damn balls. What a soft sorry man he is, with his pansy blonde streaks in his damn head. Disgrace of a man.

 

Anita just needs to play in a passing team, he's shown he's very good in that situation. If you are playing hoofball though, then a 5'4 midfielder isn't going to be much use.

 

:thup:. Find it difficult to criticise the likes of Anita and HBA today given the way the team was set up to play.

 

Only so much they can do watching the ball sail over their heads :thup:

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He's not playing well but he's been asked to do too much. He can't win games on his own. We simply aren't a solid enough team playing the attacking football needed for him to shine.

 

Enough with the same excuses.  Wonder why no other players in the team get the same slack as hba? 

 

If the player's name isn't hatem ben arfa and he loses the ball = he is s***.

 

Hba does the same thing = he has no one to pass to.

 

Black and white shirt players has a bad game = he's s***.

 

Hba had a bad game = was ask to do too much.

 

 

 

 

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He's not playing well but he's been asked to do too much. He can't win games on his own. We simply aren't a solid enough team playing the attacking football needed for him to shine.

 

Enough with the same excuses.  Wonder why no other players in the team get the same slack as hba? 

 

If the player's name isn't hatem ben arfa and he loses the ball = he is s***.

 

Hba does the same thing = he has no one to pass to.

Ah I saw loads of players lose the ball multiple times today and Santon and Benny are the only two who were singled out for it so you are talking through your hole

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There was too much ball watching and a lack of composed energy today to put the blame on him. Agree that he goes missing too much, but he was also trying to do to much on his own as we were flat.

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Awful today and should have been off at HT. Kills me to say it as I love HBA

Anita, Santon, Ameobi, Tiote, Taylor, Williamson, Debuchy, Sissoko were all miles worse than him

Sissoko? :serious: As for Ben Arfa - what was he meant to do today? It was hoof ball for most the match with Shola barely winning a header.  When we eventually moved him to the right the game was gone.  That being said - he doesn't look 100% fit to me - defo carrying weight. 

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Idiots expect HBA to be world class and win us matches single handedly, and when he doesn't he's instantly shite.

 

He is by far our best player who has been managed disgustingly and used as a scapegoat by our cowardly cunt of a manager.

 

How people can't see this is beyond me.  I'm suprised he's still willing to put the shirt on.

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He was always going to be ineffective today. So long as he's the only real attacking force we have then he's always going to be doubled/tripled up on.

 

Yes he needs to learn to pass more but those who are blaming him for our poor performances need to take a reality check.

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Idiots expect HBA to be world class and win us matches single handedly, and when he doesn't he's instantly s****.

 

He is by far our best player who has been managed disgustingly and used as a scapegoat by our cowardly c*** of a manager.

 

How people can't see this is beyond me.  I'm suprised he's still willing to put the shirt on.

 

Can say that for the entire squad.

 

Cabaye must be glad he has finally escape from the grey haired fraud.  And some even think there's a remote chance of Remy staying lol

 

 

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Awful today and should have been off at HT. Kills me to say it as I love HBA

Anita, Santon, Ameobi, Tiote, Taylor, Williamson, Debuchy, Sissoko were all miles worse than him

Sissoko? :serious: As for Ben Arfa - what was he meant to do today? It was hoof ball for most the match with Shola barely winning a header.  When we eventually moved him to the right the game was gone.  That being said - he doesn't look 100% fit to me - defo carrying weight.

You think Sissoko was good today? He's a headless chicken with the ball and can't pick a pass to save his life.

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Idiots expect HBA to be world class and win us matches single handedly, and when he doesn't he's instantly s****.

 

He is by far our best player who has been managed disgustingly and used as a scapegoat by our cowardly c*** of a manager.

 

How people can't see this is beyond me.  I'm suprised he's still willing to put the shirt on.

 

Fucksake, talk about blowing people's arguments out of proportion, no one expects him to win sindlehandedly. It's obvious he's been poorly managed, but it's also obvious that he's unfit, and makes poor decisions on the ball. Sissoko, Anita, were also shit today granted, but as Ben Arfa is our best player, and everyone knows it, so perhaps more is expected from him. His performance today was very poor, accept it and move on.

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Idiots expect HBA to be world class and win us matches single handedly, and when he doesn't he's instantly s****.

 

He is by far our best player who has been managed disgustingly and used as a scapegoat by our cowardly c*** of a manager.

 

How people can't see this is beyond me.  I'm suprised he's still willing to put the shirt on.

 

Fucksake, talk about blowing people's arguments out of proportion, no one expects him to win sindlehandedly. It's obvious he's been poorly managed, but it's also obvious that he's unfit, and makes poor decisions on the ball. Sissoko, Anita, were also s*** today granted, but as Ben Arfa is our best player, and everyone knows it, so perhaps more is expected from him. His performance today was very poor, accept it and move on.

 

Unfit while we have Santon, and the Ameobi brother running less than him. Jesus.

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He is like one of those keepy up specialists Red Bull or Mcdonalds would hire for an advert.  Thereis a reason he plays for us andno one has ever bid for him.

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