toondra Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 football is ben arfa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Creates to many chances and excitement, get rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Creates to many chances and excitement, get rid. I long for wingers who defend their fullbacks and nothing else. Workrate ftw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I don't think the side should be built around him but he should certainly be one of the main men in our attacking game. I don't think we have anyone else we can mould our game around tbh, going forward he should be the main man. While Remy's out, I'd tend to agree. Although, Cisse's the most likely to get goals while Loic's missing so it should be set up to give him the best chance of scoring. We badly need some players in the Summer Can't remember when a summer transfer window seemed so important, I mean the past few were and we didn't do shit, now it's imperative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 That move to create the chance for Anita man, my God! We have a manager that likely sees stuff like that in training daily, and starts Shola ahead of him. What a charlatan. When Ben Arfa leaves I'd love to see him at Everton with Martinez, so we can enjoy his talents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Yeah, wouldn't that be fucking awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 When Ben Arfa leaves I'd love to see him at Everton with Martinez, so we can enjoy his talents. Nevermind that, I'd be fucking proud as punch to see him play for Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 When Ben Arfa leaves I'd love to see him at Everton with Martinez, so we can enjoy his talents. Nevermind that, I'd be f***ing proud as punch to see him play for Everton. Yeah don't get that like. It'll be very much the 'here's what you could have won' speedboat on fucking Bullseye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Nowt to do with being proud to see him play for this or that club. I'd imagine he just wants to see him do well somewhere, preferably in this league just to rub Pardews nose in it and everyone else who believes the cretin. I'd rather he did it here and of course it would be painful to see him doing well elsewhere, but I can actually understand that view to some degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Didnt Pardew try to sell him to Everton in the Summer? 'If Everton sell Fellaini, they might come in with a bid for Hatem' or something like that . As for HBA, f***ing hell man. He's done more in his last two sub appearances than Gouffran has done since Christmas. Will he get a look in? Will he f***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 It's always like this with Hatem. He comes on, reminds everyone that he's the best talent at the club. The situation with him potentially leaving is a travesty and down to one man's incompetence only. He's been unable to utilize his talent as we're never aiming to impose ourselves, but rather hand over initiative and play opportunistic attacking football. In a team looking for initiative and control, Hatem is the sort of player who creates space for others as he draws attention, and unlocks opposition when passing and movement is being cancelled out. Watching Deolofeu last night was painful with regards to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 It's sad.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 How the f*** can he be on the Bench. I genuinely f***ing hate pardew for having the temerity to leave him out Word of the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Once again, Pardew's plan is working. Bring on Ben Arfa when we're chasing the game and when he inevitably doesn't win us the game single-handedly, there's a bit of discontent in the stands. It'll make it so much easier to get rid of him in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Once again, Pardew's plan is working. Bring on Ben Arfa when we're chasing the game and when he inevitably doesn't win us the game single-handedly, there's a bit of discontent in the stands. It'll make it so much easier to get rid of him in the summer. Do you really think he thinks in those terms? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Well it seems to suit his "Well Hatem has to work harder" agenda. Nobody in the midfield has shown anything to suggest that they should be starting ahead of him. If he got 90 minutes, he would show that and Pardew would be forced to work him back into regular contention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Once again, Pardew's plan is working. Bring on Ben Arfa when we're chasing the game and when he inevitably doesn't win us the game single-handedly, there's a bit of discontent in the stands. It'll make it so much easier to get rid of him in the summer. Do you really think he thinks in those terms? Of course the manipulative bastard does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Keep it tight and try to get a win/draw with a bit of magic in the last 20-30 minutes. Jesus Christ i hate this snake in charge! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Looked such a better side when him and Marv came on. Then like the other two goals, got caught on the break when it was us attacking. Everton's countering was superb last night, punished us time and time again. I want to see that Ben Arfa skill again though for Anita's sitter...saying that though, that Barca kid for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Carver is a horrible guy. Would rather Ben Arfa hated him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Pardew won't go anywhere soon. Those who make the decisions are happy to keep the club ticking along in the Premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Looked such a better side when him and Marv came on. Then like the other two goals, got caught on the break when it was us attacking. Everton's countering was superb last night, punished us time and time again. I want to see that Ben Arfa skill again though for Anita's sitter...saying that though, that Barca kid for them He was v good but f***ing hell I could have given Dummett a game, he was awful He was on the other side in final minutes, and the pace he still had for that time of game was crazy. It was the other end from me but looked like he should have scored. He was just brilliant though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 There is an exact correlation between me watching matches and HBA starting matches. This season is more tragic than last and last season was, aside from the relegation season, the worst season that I've ever seen. I wish I had the perfect combination of words, or even a suitable combination of words to really hone in and pin down just how much I despise Pardew and just how tragic it is that we don't get to see us try to play for something, or even get to see players like HBA, a player for me that is only surpassed by Ginola in my excitement when he gets the ball at his feet. I wish I had that, but Pardew has stripped me of any creativity. He's the great depression of NUFC and I will always, always hate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddydog Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Ben Arfa - Adored for Doing Nothing Posted: 25/03/2014 17:18 Hatem Ben Arfa is an enigma, wrapped up in a conundrum - to some Newcastle United fans that is, not to me though. He doesn't fool me. Ever since he first broke on to the scene as an enigmatic teenage wunderkind, there has been many who followed his career with great interest. He was touted as being one of the most gifted players to come from the prestigious Clairefontaine Academy and needless to say, when he signed for Newcastle United many NUFC fans were deliriously happy. Finally we had a proper flair player to drool over. Someone who can excite the masses, get bums off seats and drag this club up off its arse by its coat-tails into the top half of the table and beyond. That was then, and this is now. Hatem Ben Arfa's time at Newcastle has been beset by injury problems; his horrific leg break in October 2010, a mere two months into his time at the club, being the worst of them. Add to that Pardew's concerns that he doesn't work hard enough for the team, or that he simply always look out of shape (which is putting it mildly) has ensured that Hatem Ben Arfa has not become the player most Newcastle United fans thought or wanted him to be. This particular fan does not like Hatem Ben Arfa. I think he is lazy, selfish, arrogant and ineffective. I am unwilling to forgive the flaws in his game simply because once or twice a season he looks like a world beater. David Silva looks like a world beater every single game. Luis Suarez has equalled Robbie Fowler's Liverpool record for most goals in a league season, even after missing the first number of games this season. The likes of Oscar at Chelsea, Coutinho at Liverpool, Ross Barkley at Everton, Adam Lallana at Southampton, all produce much, much more for their teams this season than Hatem Ben Arfa has EVER produced at Newcastle United, yet some NUFC fans worship the ground he walks on. Do not simply take my word for it. How about we do a simple compare and contrast with one of our own players; Yoan Gouffran - a player who gets very little praise. Yoan Gouffran has played 42 league games for Newcastle United with nine goals and three assists. Hatem Ben Arfa has played 72 league games for Newcastle United with 13 goals and 15 assists. Gouffran is not a massive offensive threat, yet he has still scored almost as many goals as Ben Arfa has with 30 less games played. Granted, Ben Arfa has provided more assists, but 15 assists in over 70 games equals one assist in nearly every five games - which is shocking for a man whose came is supposedly based upon creating chances. It must also be said that Gouffran is a natural striker who is playing out of position on the wing, while Ben Arfa has always been a winger. Add to this the fact that Gouffran works for the team and not himself, tracks back and covers defensively, you can begin to see why someone would prefer Gouffran's contributions to the team over Ben Arfa's. Following his assist for Cisse's 94th minute winner against Crystal Palace, there have been news stories cropping up about how Newcastle United need to build a team around Ben Arfa. No thanks. Any team taking their guidance from a man who plays solely for himself, is not a team I will be proud of. I understand why some people laud Hatem Ben Arfa. The romanticism that comes with such a player is oft hard to resist, especially at a time when we have so few truly talented players. With the sale of Cabaye one could argue that we lost our only truly gifted player, and in his absence more and more people are looking to Ben Arfa to provide that flair and class which we so desperately crave. People remember players like Peter Beardsley, David Ginola, Rob Lee and Laurent Robert - the latter often being a dead ringer for Ben Arfa in terms of work rate - and want to see that kind of quality again. They think the only person who can provide that spark of magic is Ben Arfa, and they could be right. My point is that I am not going to suffer nine dreadful performances in the hope of one good one. I am not willing to forgive a player who is more hindrance than help more often than not. I am not willing to accept someone with no work rate being selected over someone who gives 100% game in, game out. I have my worries about next season. Honestly, I think we will be in dire straits fighting a relegation battle. When push comes to shove, will I look towards someone like Gouffran who will chase every last ball, make covering last ditch tackles, and will give every last ounce of energy for the team, or will I look towards someone like Hatem Ben Arfa, someone who might win you a game or two with individual class alone, but will actively contribute to a bad performance if he is not on his game. I know which one I will choose. Follow Ciaran Donaghy on Twitter: www.twitter.com/CiaranD1892 http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ciaran-donaghy/ben-arfa-adored-for-doing-nothing_b_5020802.html? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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