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Wonder what it took to resolve it. Would be class if Wonga did something like donate to Cisse's charity - but then I wonder if he'd be p*ssed that they used their profits from the loans he wasn't a fan of to donate to his charity....:lol: So nevermind.

 

That photo from Andymc1 was definitely a game changer like. Don't think it would have been resolved within 2 days without that being all over the press...

 

I still don't see how that is relevant to any of this. It's not like he has ever claimed to be the perfect muslim who follows quaran to the word. He just has a faith/moral problem with Wonga. How does the fact he's pictured in the papers gambling change any of that? Only thing it changed are the opinions of some simpleton fans who never understood the real problem to begin with.

 

More likely it's down to Pardew being back from Portugal and having a chat with him.

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Wonder what it took to resolve it. Would be class if Wonga did something like donate to Cisse's charity - but then I wonder if he'd be p*ssed that they used their profits from the loans he wasn't a fan of to donate to his charity....:lol: So nevermind.

 

That photo from Andymc1 was definitely a game changer like. Don't think it would have been resolved within 2 days without that being all over the press...

 

I still don't see how that is relevant to any of this. It's not like he has ever claimed to be the perfect muslim who follows quaran to the word. He just has a faith/moral problem with Wonga. How does the fact he's pictured in the papers gambling change any of that? Only thing it changed are the opinions of some simpleton fans who never understood the real problem to begin with.

 

More likely it's down to Pardew being back from Portugal and having a chat with him.

 

The timing is too coincidental for me...

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Wonder what it took to resolve it. Would be class if Wonga did something like donate to Cisse's charity - but then I wonder if he'd be p*ssed that they used their profits from the loans he wasn't a fan of to donate to his charity....:lol: So nevermind.

 

That photo from Andymc1 was definitely a game changer like. Don't think it would have been resolved within 2 days without that being all over the press...

 

I still don't see how that is relevant to any of this. It's not like he has ever claimed to be the perfect muslim who follows quaran to the word. He just has a faith/moral problem with Wonga. How does the fact he's pictured in the papers gambling change any of that? Only thing it changed are the opinions of some simpleton fans who never understood the real problem to begin with.

 

More likely it's down to Pardew being back from Portugal and having a chat with him.

 

The timing is too coincidental for me...

 

You could say it's as much as a coincidence with Pardew and the squad returning to England.

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Seems pretty obvious that Cisse has capitulated in the face of the casino story and in order to keep him happy the club have spun his capitulation as reaching 'mutual agreement'.

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Seems pretty obvious that Cisse has capitulated in the face of the casino story and in order to keep him happy the club have spun his capitulation as reaching 'mutual agreement'.

 

If obvious means it's one of the possible explanations, then yes, it's obvious.

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Wonder what it took to resolve it. Would be class if Wonga did something like donate to Cisse's charity - but then I wonder if he'd be p*ssed that they used their profits from the loans he wasn't a fan of to donate to his charity....:lol: So nevermind.

 

That photo from Andymc1 was definitely a game changer like. Don't think it would have been resolved within 2 days without that being all over the press...

 

I still don't see how that is relevant to any of this. It's not like he has ever claimed to be the perfect muslim who follows quaran to the word. He just has a faith/moral problem with Wonga. How does the fact he's pictured in the papers gambling change any of that? Only thing it changed are the opinions of some simpleton fans who never understood the real problem to begin with.

 

More likely it's down to Pardew being back from Portugal and having a chat with him.

 

The timing is too coincidental for me...

Pics of him in a Casino have been floating about for ages, it wasn't exactly a secret and you can bet the club knew.

 

Maybe they finally got round to speaking to him - something as simple as that.

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so what actually happened here then in the end?  no official statement from cisse as far as i'm aware, just some stories in the paper with no official quotes, cisse stays at home for a few days when he's fasting for ramadan anyway and now it's all sorted...have i got that right?

 

looking at it from that standpoint have the club done that badly?

 

guess the main problem might have been it's presumably created uncertainty about our transfer targets which should now no longer exist...go on then joe

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so what actually happened here then in the end?  no official statement from cisse as far as i'm aware, just some stories in the paper with no official quotes, cisse stays at home for a few days when he's fasting for ramadan anyway and now it's all sorted...have i got that right?

 

looking at it from that standpoint have the club done that badly?

 

guess the main problem might have been it's presumably created uncertainty about our transfer targets which should now no longer exist...go on then joe

 

Pretty much that the silence has made everyone from the press to locals to many on this board go mad with ideas. He's settled the dispute, lets get him back on the pitch and scoring gols.

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Can't believe that there are actually (presumably intelligent) people on here who believe that the casino picture was the game changer. It's incredibly over estimating the importance of fan's perception of a player's religious conviction to the player himself. Cisse's not going to go, "Shat now they've seen my casino picture, Dave and Toon Taylor will know I'm not a good 'Muslim', so I better back down".

 

He had a believe (and it does not matter that the many Islamic experts on this board thinks its hypocritical) that he could not advertise Wonga and yet his conscience allowed him to play in casino. It does not matter what his rationale is, it doesn't matter if this means as a Muslim he will go to hell. All that matters is just that this was his believe.

 

Now he has been persuaded presumably by a combination of Pardew, PFA and perhaps some Muslim folks in the community that wearing Wonga is not too big a deal, he has decided to compromise without getting any financial gain and we should just draw line under this sorry episode and get him match fit.

 

Besides if all he wanted was a pay rise or engineer a move away, he did not need to use religion and probably would not have compromised. Get over it, players don't really care what fans think of them certainly not whether they are a good or hypocritical Muslim.

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The true test of his attitude will come when he starts playing, he has already lost about three weeks which could have been totally avoided if it was handled correctly, can you imagine Bobby Robson letting it drag on for so long ?

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The true test of his attitude will come when he starts playing, he has already lost about three weeks which could have been totally avoided if it was handled correctly, can you imagine Bobby Robson letting it drag on for so long ?

 

I'd rather imagine what Bobby would achieve with this squad compared to Alan.

 

Then again thats a fairly depressing thought about our current circumstances

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Was he the only player observing Ramadan?  Could this whole thing not just be him staying due to Portugal not being the ideal place for an athelete training during Ramadan? Ain't got a clue but every story I've seen about this wonga dispute haven't had many sources?.

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Could this whole thing not just be him staying due to Portugal not being the ideal place for an athelete training during Ramadan?

 

My turn... He got into a massive gambling debt and had to turn to pay day lenders. Next...

 

 

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Was he the only player observing Ramadan?  Could this whole thing not just be him staying due to Portugal not being the ideal place for an athelete training during Ramadan? Ain't got a clue but every story I've seen about this wonga dispute haven't had many sources?.

 

Because our club do not communicate it leads to all sorts of speculation. Would save them a load of hassle if they just told the truth

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Was he the only player observing Ramadan?  Could this whole thing not just be him staying due to Portugal not being the ideal place for an athelete training during Ramadan? Ain't got a clue but every story I've seen about this wonga dispute haven't had many sources?.

 

Had that thought myself, the "sent to train alone bollocks" story was due to special regime he was working through because of Ramadan, with the work being done with the new fitness guru, which by reports has been extremely intensive, not the best thing to be doing with no food or fluids during the day at the best of times, never mind in the heat.

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Was he the only player observing Ramadan?  Could this whole thing not just be him staying due to Portugal not being the ideal place for an athelete training during Ramadan? Ain't got a clue but every story I've seen about this wonga dispute haven't had many sources?.

 

Because our club do not communicate it leads to all sorts of speculation. Would save them a load of hassle if they just told the truth

 

can't see how it would have helped anyone except a load of internet fishwives in this case, going public would have backed people into corners and potentially led to perceived ill feeling between the parties, making a resolution much more difficult

 

also it's feasible wonga requested the club to keep quiet so as not to publicly confirm that our #9 has a problem with our main sponsor, they've got plenty of bad press as it is

 

my only beef with the whole thing is it may have clouded our pursuit of new strikers but even that's total guesswork, it may not

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It was a complex situation which we've seemingly resolved behind closed doors. Making it public might have made things even more complicated.

 

Edit : mojo's first paragraph phrases it much better.

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Assume its been mentioned without trawling back but if true the club did well to bring in a Imam to talk him through the situation and try and find a compromise. Glad its all resolved and we can get him on the pitch and ready to watch City tear us apart from the halfway line  :lol:

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