Kasper Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Wonder what it took to resolve it. Would be class if Wonga did something like donate to Cisse's charity - but then I wonder if he'd be p*ssed that they used their profits from the loans he wasn't a fan of to donate to his charity.... So nevermind. That photo from Andymc1 was definitely a game changer like. Don't think it would have been resolved within 2 days without that being all over the press... I still don't see how that is relevant to any of this. It's not like he has ever claimed to be the perfect muslim who follows quaran to the word. He just has a faith/moral problem with Wonga. How does the fact he's pictured in the papers gambling change any of that? Only thing it changed are the opinions of some simpleton fans who never understood the real problem to begin with. More likely it's down to Pardew being back from Portugal and having a chat with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Wonder what it took to resolve it. Would be class if Wonga did something like donate to Cisse's charity - but then I wonder if he'd be p*ssed that they used their profits from the loans he wasn't a fan of to donate to his charity.... So nevermind. That photo from Andymc1 was definitely a game changer like. Don't think it would have been resolved within 2 days without that being all over the press... I still don't see how that is relevant to any of this. It's not like he has ever claimed to be the perfect muslim who follows quaran to the word. He just has a faith/moral problem with Wonga. How does the fact he's pictured in the papers gambling change any of that? Only thing it changed are the opinions of some simpleton fans who never understood the real problem to begin with. More likely it's down to Pardew being back from Portugal and having a chat with him. The timing is too coincidental for me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Aye, I said the same in a later post. Not good enough. Anyway: http://i.imgur.com/mJSm9fT.png Especially if that last line is true. The fact its taken a week and he's supposedly been all for finding a resolution doesn't paint the clubs negotiators in a very good light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Can imagine no one said a word to him after the squad went to Portugal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Wonder what it took to resolve it. Would be class if Wonga did something like donate to Cisse's charity - but then I wonder if he'd be p*ssed that they used their profits from the loans he wasn't a fan of to donate to his charity.... So nevermind. That photo from Andymc1 was definitely a game changer like. Don't think it would have been resolved within 2 days without that being all over the press... I still don't see how that is relevant to any of this. It's not like he has ever claimed to be the perfect muslim who follows quaran to the word. He just has a faith/moral problem with Wonga. How does the fact he's pictured in the papers gambling change any of that? Only thing it changed are the opinions of some simpleton fans who never understood the real problem to begin with. More likely it's down to Pardew being back from Portugal and having a chat with him. The timing is too coincidental for me... You could say it's as much as a coincidence with Pardew and the squad returning to England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Seems pretty obvious that Cisse has capitulated in the face of the casino story and in order to keep him happy the club have spun his capitulation as reaching 'mutual agreement'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Seems pretty obvious that Cisse has capitulated in the face of the casino story and in order to keep him happy the club have spun his capitulation as reaching 'mutual agreement'. If obvious means it's one of the possible explanations, then yes, it's obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Wonder what it took to resolve it. Would be class if Wonga did something like donate to Cisse's charity - but then I wonder if he'd be p*ssed that they used their profits from the loans he wasn't a fan of to donate to his charity.... So nevermind. That photo from Andymc1 was definitely a game changer like. Don't think it would have been resolved within 2 days without that being all over the press... I still don't see how that is relevant to any of this. It's not like he has ever claimed to be the perfect muslim who follows quaran to the word. He just has a faith/moral problem with Wonga. How does the fact he's pictured in the papers gambling change any of that? Only thing it changed are the opinions of some simpleton fans who never understood the real problem to begin with. More likely it's down to Pardew being back from Portugal and having a chat with him. The timing is too coincidental for me... Pics of him in a Casino have been floating about for ages, it wasn't exactly a secret and you can bet the club knew. Maybe they finally got round to speaking to him - something as simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Maybe I texted him "Stahp b n a dick m8" and he had a change of heart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 so what actually happened here then in the end? no official statement from cisse as far as i'm aware, just some stories in the paper with no official quotes, cisse stays at home for a few days when he's fasting for ramadan anyway and now it's all sorted...have i got that right? looking at it from that standpoint have the club done that badly? guess the main problem might have been it's presumably created uncertainty about our transfer targets which should now no longer exist...go on then joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 so what actually happened here then in the end? no official statement from cisse as far as i'm aware, just some stories in the paper with no official quotes, cisse stays at home for a few days when he's fasting for ramadan anyway and now it's all sorted...have i got that right? looking at it from that standpoint have the club done that badly? guess the main problem might have been it's presumably created uncertainty about our transfer targets which should now no longer exist...go on then joe Pretty much that the silence has made everyone from the press to locals to many on this board go mad with ideas. He's settled the dispute, lets get him back on the pitch and scoring gols. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Pretty much that the silence has made everyone from the press to locals to many on this board go mad with ideas. aye that's been my take on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Can't believe that there are actually (presumably intelligent) people on here who believe that the casino picture was the game changer. It's incredibly over estimating the importance of fan's perception of a player's religious conviction to the player himself. Cisse's not going to go, "Shat now they've seen my casino picture, Dave and Toon Taylor will know I'm not a good 'Muslim', so I better back down". He had a believe (and it does not matter that the many Islamic experts on this board thinks its hypocritical) that he could not advertise Wonga and yet his conscience allowed him to play in casino. It does not matter what his rationale is, it doesn't matter if this means as a Muslim he will go to hell. All that matters is just that this was his believe. Now he has been persuaded presumably by a combination of Pardew, PFA and perhaps some Muslim folks in the community that wearing Wonga is not too big a deal, he has decided to compromise without getting any financial gain and we should just draw line under this sorry episode and get him match fit. Besides if all he wanted was a pay rise or engineer a move away, he did not need to use religion and probably would not have compromised. Get over it, players don't really care what fans think of them certainly not whether they are a good or hypocritical Muslim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 The true test of his attitude will come when he starts playing, he has already lost about three weeks which could have been totally avoided if it was handled correctly, can you imagine Bobby Robson letting it drag on for so long ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diddimz Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 The true test of his attitude will come when he starts playing, he has already lost about three weeks which could have been totally avoided if it was handled correctly, can you imagine Bobby Robson letting it drag on for so long ? I'd rather imagine what Bobby would achieve with this squad compared to Alan. Then again thats a fairly depressing thought about our current circumstances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Good stuff. Now fuck off and score some goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Was he the only player observing Ramadan? Could this whole thing not just be him staying due to Portugal not being the ideal place for an athelete training during Ramadan? Ain't got a clue but every story I've seen about this wonga dispute haven't had many sources?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Could this whole thing not just be him staying due to Portugal not being the ideal place for an athelete training during Ramadan? My turn... He got into a massive gambling debt and had to turn to pay day lenders. Next... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Was he the only player observing Ramadan? Could this whole thing not just be him staying due to Portugal not being the ideal place for an athelete training during Ramadan? Ain't got a clue but every story I've seen about this wonga dispute haven't had many sources?. Because our club do not communicate it leads to all sorts of speculation. Would save them a load of hassle if they just told the truth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Was he the only player observing Ramadan? Could this whole thing not just be him staying due to Portugal not being the ideal place for an athelete training during Ramadan? Ain't got a clue but every story I've seen about this wonga dispute haven't had many sources?. Had that thought myself, the "sent to train alone bollocks" story was due to special regime he was working through because of Ramadan, with the work being done with the new fitness guru, which by reports has been extremely intensive, not the best thing to be doing with no food or fluids during the day at the best of times, never mind in the heat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Was he the only player observing Ramadan? Could this whole thing not just be him staying due to Portugal not being the ideal place for an athelete training during Ramadan? Ain't got a clue but every story I've seen about this wonga dispute haven't had many sources?. Because our club do not communicate it leads to all sorts of speculation. Would save them a load of hassle if they just told the truth can't see how it would have helped anyone except a load of internet fishwives in this case, going public would have backed people into corners and potentially led to perceived ill feeling between the parties, making a resolution much more difficult also it's feasible wonga requested the club to keep quiet so as not to publicly confirm that our #9 has a problem with our main sponsor, they've got plenty of bad press as it is my only beef with the whole thing is it may have clouded our pursuit of new strikers but even that's total guesswork, it may not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 It was a complex situation which we've seemingly resolved behind closed doors. Making it public might have made things even more complicated. Edit : mojo's first paragraph phrases it much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Great post by alpal. Sorted now, lets move on, Cisse is absolutely lush. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Assume its been mentioned without trawling back but if true the club did well to bring in a Imam to talk him through the situation and try and find a compromise. Glad its all resolved and we can get him on the pitch and ready to watch City tear us apart from the halfway line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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