Varadi Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Watched the 2nd half of their game today. I can confirm that N'Diaye is toilet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 On 09/02/2013 at 17:04, Varadi said: Watched the 2nd half of their game today. I can confirm that N'Diaye is toilet. This mean they've stopped calling him Alfie then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 On 09/02/2013 at 17:04, Varadi said: Watched the 2nd half of their game today. I can confirm that N'Diaye is toilet. Had it on in the background. Was it him pulled his hamstring late on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 On 09/02/2013 at 17:14, Crumpy Gunt said: Quote Watched the 2nd half of their game today. I can confirm that N'Diaye is toilet. Had it on in the background. Was it him pulled his hamstring late on? Rose. Alfred looked slow and clumsy. Was really poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 On 09/02/2013 at 17:04, Varadi said: Watched the 2nd half of their game today. I can confirm that N'Diaye is toilet. Just Marty proving that the foreign market has nout on good old fashioned £20M bid for Darren Fletcher in the summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 On 09/02/2013 at 17:04, Varadi said: Watched the 2nd half of their game today. I can confirm that N'Diaye is toilet. He was the only one who offered anything first half. Seems to fade in games but I'm hoping thats just adapting to the pace here. At least he gets himself in forward positions which is an improvement on Colback. His touch is shocking at times though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 On 09/02/2013 at 21:32, hithere said: Quote Watched the 2nd half of their game today. I can confirm that N'Diaye is toilet. He was the only one who offered anything first half. Seems to fade in games but I'm hoping thats just adapting to the pace here. At least he gets himself in forward positions which is an improvement on Colback. His touch is shocking at times though. looking at smb tonight seem pretty down on the prospects under mon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Weve both had terrible seasons, when the mackems were really struggling early on, it said everything that we couldnt move clear of them. The same can basically be said the other way round now, they went on a little run and we flat out sucked, yet theres still only 2pts diff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 On 09/02/2013 at 21:36, cp40 said: Quote Quote Watched the 2nd half of their game today. I can confirm that N'Diaye is toilet. He was the only one who offered anything first half. Seems to fade in games but I'm hoping thats just adapting to the pace here. At least he gets himself in forward positions which is an improvement on Colback. His touch is shocking at times though. looking at smb tonight seem pretty down on the prospects under mon? Doubts are creeping in now. The majority are still behind him me included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 On 09/02/2013 at 23:29, hithere said: Quote Quote Quote Watched the 2nd half of their game today. I can confirm that N'Diaye is toilet. He was the only one who offered anything first half. Seems to fade in games but I'm hoping thats just adapting to the pace here. At least he gets himself in forward positions which is an improvement on Colback. His touch is shocking at times though. looking at smb tonight seem pretty down on the prospects under mon? Doubts are creeping in now. The majority are still behind him me included. Lucky he had that run around Xmas which pulled him out the shit, probably enough to keep the media spotlight off him and pressure down to a min for the rest of the season. Long term though, I just don't see him making much difference and I don't see the club buying its way to the next level, in fact with mon it'll be more buy to stand still than buy to progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I'm surprised he's still got so much support, in the 15 months (ish?) that he's been in charge there's been one purple patch of good results and he spent a fair whack in the summer. Still though, it's refreshing that a manager isn't being hounded out and I guess you're well and truly midtable, 8 points from 7th and 8 points from the bottom 3. And you're above us of course, which probably gets him some credit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 On 09/02/2013 at 23:38, Ashley17 said: I'm surprised he's still got so much support, in the 15 months (ish?) that he's been in charge there's been one purple patch of good results and he spent a fair whack in the summer. Still though, it's refreshing that a manager isn't being hounded out and I guess you're well and truly midtable, 8 points from 7th and 8 points from the bottom 3. And you're above us of course, which probably gets him some credit. they are currently above us, thats all they aim for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I just think Sunderland are in a long-term predicament. The players they've bought under Bruce and O'Neill, with the odd exception, have simply been different shades of shit. Mediocre players aren't going to get you anywhere in this league. It seems that for many, many years they've needed some proper creative drive from midfield. They need a Cabaye, they need an Osman, they need someone who can create something from midfield. Until then their main hope is nicking wins here and there (with the very occasional more comprehensive win thrown in there) but when the defence isn't up to scratch, they're screwed. Simply put, they need 3 or 4 very decent players if they're going to turn into a decent contender for the top 7ish. And by very decent, that doesn't mean Craig Gardner or John O'Shea. Couple of defenders, couple of midfielders. On the plus side, I think Fletcher is a good striker for a mid-table side, possibly upper mid table, and Sessegnon and Johnson on their day are very good players IMO. That's a good attacking trio to work off, but where's the support? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Cabaye? Gardner is a better player marra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Was speaking to Nixon who has to watch them now for his job and he can't believe they spent £10 million on Johnson. Reckons he has been poor all season long, bar one or 2 notable MOTD highlights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 On 09/02/2013 at 23:49, Sewelly said: Was speaking to Nixon who has to watch them now for his job and he can't believe they spent £10 million on Johnson. Reckons he has been poor all season long, bar one or 2 notable MOTD highlights. Like the wording. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Johnson is such an odd one. Perhaps he was overrated when he broke through and stupidly went to Man City but there's obvious talent there. Just can't seem to get any sort of consistency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Johnson suffers mentally, just doesn't have the character to be a great footballer. Lazy attitude towards training, his own fitness and efforts on the pitch. It's a trio of bad traits to have and he's lucky he's got a bit of pace while being technically very good. He should be doing much better than he's doing now, but his attitude is off, and the two moves he's made have shown exactly where he's at or was at in his head, made it as a player when he went to citeh, and the next move a chance to chill, earn good money close to family and not really have to put much effort in to things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 On 09/02/2013 at 23:49, Sewelly said: Was speaking to Nixon who has to watch them now for his job and he can't believe they spent £10 million on Johnson. Reckons he has been poor all season long, bar one or 2 notable MOTD highlights. Few of my mackem pals repeatedly say he's been shite overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Johnson's problem is his complete lack of athletic ability, weak mentality, mixed in with an alarming lack of flair. He has a brilliant left foot and good first touch/technique but that's about it. Completely different ball game being City's super sub compared to playing regularly for an uninspiring mid-table team, where he has to work a lot harder to create chances for himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 On 09/02/2013 at 23:58, Toon's Taylor said: Johnson suffers mentally, just doesn't have the character to be a great footballer. Lazy attitude towards training, his own fitness and efforts on the pitch. It's a trio of bad traits to have and he's lucky he's got a bit of pace while being technically very good. He should be doing much better than he's doing now, but his attitude is off, and the two moves he's made have shown exactly where he's at or was at in his head, made it as a player when he went to citeh, and the next move a chance to chill, earn good money close to family and not really have to put much effort in to things. At the right price, I would have him at Everton. I'm convinced if he puts the effort in there's a damn good player there. I dunno, I guess that flies in the face of evidence to the contrary but I really think he could be a very good footballer if he put his mind to it. Obviously will bow to the better judgement of those who've seen him more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 On 10/02/2013 at 00:00, Neil said: Quote Johnson suffers mentally, just doesn't have the character to be a great footballer. Lazy attitude towards training, his own fitness and efforts on the pitch. It's a trio of bad traits to have and he's lucky he's got a bit of pace while being technically very good. He should be doing much better than he's doing now, but his attitude is off, and the two moves he's made have shown exactly where he's at or was at in his head, made it as a player when he went to citeh, and the next move a chance to chill, earn good money close to family and not really have to put much effort in to things. At the right price, I would have him at Everton. I'm convinced if he puts the effort in there's a damn good player there. I dunno, I guess that flies in the face of evidence to the contrary but I really think he could be a very good footballer if he put his mind to it. Obviously will bow to the better judgement of those who've seen him more. There is a cracking player in there, probably not too late to have 3-4 quality years in him, but he's settled for the level he's at. He has absolutely no desire (or heart) to become a better player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 He seems a bit lost out wide due to lack of athleticism/pace imo. He would be much better utilised right behind Fletcher and stick Sessegnon out wide instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 hadnt realised clattermol was booked one min into his return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Ridiculous tackle as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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