Newcastle 1 - 1 Sunderland - 04/03/12 - post-match reaction from page 42

[NEEJ]

NUFC have just praised both fans behavior so all those stories last night are bullshit.

 

http://www.northumbria.police.uk/news_and_events/media_centre/news_releases/details.asp?id=56491

 

They've been allowed to get away with that type of behaviour for years now so it's no surprise that they're sinking lower all the time.

It started when the police and FA turned a blind eye to the pitch invasions and attacking opposition players in their stadium, now it seems that wrecking their transport to the match is in vogue with macums. Does it really surprise anyone when they have a captain like Lee Cattermole and their manager refuses to make any stance against the criminal element on their playing staff ?

Perhaps the way the club is going is a reason for their half empty stadium, decent people not wanting to be associated with it and just leaving it to the fuckwits.

Shut up man, Sunderland's a classy club. We can only hope to learn from them.

[Keefaz]

The media bias is clearly swinging the MO'N way. To be expected: they rim that fucking guy.

[adam1]

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423673_3439043735903_1264816711_3615765_1903557583_n.jpg

 

That article title

 

 

Lee Ryder's a reet fucking douchewang like. 'Shol-aaaahhh', is that the best he could think of?

 

Hi Lee, cos i know you read these forums.

[Darth Crooks]

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7892/20536420.png

 

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8282/williamsn.png

 

[Dr Venkman]

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423673_3439043735903_1264816711_3615765_1903557583_n.jpg

 

That article title

 

 

Lee Ryder's a reet fucking douchewang like. 'Shol-aaaahhh', is that the best he could think of?

 

Hi Lee, cos i know you read these forums.

 

it was the T-WTD bit i was referring to mate

[skryp2nit3]

Anyone else had to sit through David Pleat's woeful commentary? Full of bullocks and clearly biased towards the mackems.

 

Every time we had a penalty claim he would say 'no thats not a penalty'. Even when replays clearly showed Turner's (i think) hand striking the ball way above his head, he was adamant that it wasnt a penalty. Even Steve Banyard sounded baffled.

[NEEJ]

Anyone else had to sit through David Pleat's woeful commentary? Full of bullocks and clearly biased towards the mackems.

 

Every time we had a penalty claim he would say 'no thats not a penalty'. Even when replays clearly showed Turner's (i think) hand striking the ball way above his head, he was adamant that it wasnt a penalty. Even Steve Banyard sounded baffled.

Watched those highlights before, he's a complete cunt. He was going mental about Simpson kicking off after McLean halfed him and saying Krul had no business getting involved. Completely overlooking the shocking tackle in the process.

[Guest neesy111]

Ronnie won't be happy with those comments

[BaltimoreBasedMag]

Anyone else had to sit through David Pleat's woeful commentary? Full of bullocks and clearly biased towards the mackems.

 

Every time we had a penalty claim he would say 'no thats not a penalty'. Even when replays clearly showed Turner's (i think) hand striking the ball way above his head, he was adamant that it wasnt a penalty. Even Steve Banyard sounded baffled.

 

Pleat was awful.  There were a few Arsenal supporters watching with us and even they were getting pissed at Pleat's commentary.  To be fair, he is usually much better and even very complimentary towards us (Tottenham home match and Villa a few weeks ago come to mind).

[Wallace]

Anyone else had to sit through David Pleat's woeful commentary? Full of bullocks and clearly biased towards the mackems.

 

Every time we had a penalty claim he would say 'no thats not a penalty'. Even when replays clearly showed Turner's (i think) hand striking the ball way above his head, he was adamant that it wasnt a penalty. Even Steve Banyard sounded baffled.

 

Pleat was awful.  There were a few Arsenal supporters watching with us and even they were getting p*ssed at Pleat's commentary.  To be fair, he is usually much better and even very complimentary towards us (Tottenham home match and Villa a few weeks ago come to mind).

 

Heard him on the radio last week and he was saying it was good that Liverpool were in the top 6 and the right teams were now making up the top 6 (even though we were 6th and Liverpool 7th).  He then said that 2 teams were underperforming that should be in the top 8 and they were Villa and Everton.  Never mentioned us at all.

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I usually quite like Pleat as a general panel show member, not so sure about his live analysis.

[jdckelly]

Monday 5 March 2012 by VCG

Bendtner and Ameobi criticised over ‘mindless acts of football’

Sunderland Newcastle Derby

 

Sunderland’s Nicklas Bendtner and Newcastle’s Shola Ameobi have been slammed by fans, players and managers after the pair blighted yesterday’s Tyne-Wear derby with a goal apiece.

 

An otherwise enjoyable ninety minutes of mild violence was marred by a goal in each half, and pundits have been quick to criticise the pair.

 

“It was a great game between the two sides, full of passion, commitment, and people running around kicking each other.” said Newcastle United legend Alan Shearer.

 

“Lee Cattermole set the tone for a classic as only he can; by trying to end Tiote’s career in the first minute. And it just got better and better from there.”

 

“There were a number of tackles bordering on assault, a pretty weak punch to the face and some terrible play-acting, everything you want from a modern premier league derby.”

 

“But then Bendtner went and scored a goal, Shola retaliated with one of his own and that really let everybody down and put a dampener on the whole thing.”

North-east Derby

 

Bendtner, on loan from Arsenal, could face sanctions after replays appeared to show that his goal may have been deliberate, while Ameobi’s at least looked like he didn’t know what he was doing.

 

Shearer was very critical of the pair in his analysis, telling viewers, “The only thing you can say for Shola is that Bendtner scored first, but he should know better than to react like that and he’ll be disappointed with himself.”

 

“To be fair to the pair of them though, neither really has a history of doing this sort of thing, it’s a bit out of character and I don’t see either of them making a habit of scoring goals.”

 

http://newsthump.com/2012/03/05/bendtner-and-ameobi-criticised-over-mindless-acts-of-football/

[Guest Spark]

That's class.

[Guest]

Bendtner, on loan from Arsenal, could face sanctions after replays appeared to show that his goal may have been deliberate, while Ameobi’s at least looked like he didn’t know what he was doing.

 

[wormy]

What a turgid first half. Picked up the urgency in the second, but it just felt like we were never scoring! Especially when Ba missed that pelanty. Didn't feel comfortable from the off tbh with Shola on the pitch and not taking it, as silly and hindsight-tastic as that may sound.Amazing that the cunts are accusing us of swaying the ref considering some of the decisions. He was fucking abysmal, that's for sure. The main reason I've lost my voice.

[Guest]

Probably been mentioned in the first few pages but was brilliant when the DJ played Tom Hark - Piranha's before the match (We hate Sunderland...scum...). Don't remember him playing it before any other of the derby games.

[Guest BooBoo]

Aye that was class, really ramped the atmosphere up a notch.

[johnnypd]

mignolet was bouncing the cross bar and making it shake as ba was waiting to take the pen. typical mackem damaging other people's property.

[Interpolic]

A Love Supreme's match report.

 

http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-wire/nufc-v-sunderland-what-their-fans-had-to-say/

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

A Love Supreme's match report.

 

http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-wire/nufc-v-sunderland-what-their-fans-had-to-say/

 

Brilliant 

 

ALS is a joke and Martyn McFadden, its editor, is a total prick.  Won't let anyone else associated with the publication speak to the media.

[JH]

The 'We hate Sunderland' was absolutely class. Top marks to the announcer bloke for that, got the place rocking.

 

Should have played it as the players came out too

[Robster]

A Love Supreme's match report.

http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-wire/nufc-v-sunderland-what-their-fans-had-to-say/

I like how, in the list of match reports, they have us down as 'Them Lot'

[Mick]

The 'We hate Sunderland' was absolutely class. Top marks to the announcer bloke for that, got the place rocking.

 

Should have played it as the players came out too

 

I would rather they turned the music off, the atmosphere was just getting going and they turned the music up and everybody stopped singing.

[Thespence]

WHETHER it was a sense of insecurity at facing a trophy-laden counterpart or a shameless attempt to further endear himself to the “Geordie Nation”, Alan Pardew seemed intent on displaying the uglier side of his character.

 

The lack of class from either Pardew or assistant John Carver in consistently goading Martin O’Neill and his colleagues on the touchline was the unnecessary aspect of an absorbing derby tussle.

 

In a game where maturity is in short supply, the two 50-somethings should have known better.

 

Pardew at least admitted afterwards that he could have been “a bit more grown-up about it”, before bafflingly claiming he wasn’t “taking the moral high ground” – perhaps because he had trodden all over the low ground.

 

But amid all the Newcastle manager’s flannel, over-the-top fist punching and the coincidentally timed Saturday morning press conference to celebrate contract extensions, one thing the Magpies boss said in the derby furore did hold some resonance.

 

Beforehand, Pardew had predicted that the midfield tussle would be key to the pattern and outcome of proceedings and, in that respect, he struck his most harmonious chord of the whole weekend.

 

It was no coincidence that it took Lee Cattermole just 38 seconds to find his way into Mike Dean’s notebook after scything down opposite number Cheik Tiote from behind.

 

The Sunderland skipper wanted to lay down a marker to the African, send him a clear sign that the Black Cats were here to put up a fight, rather than the humble surrender of their three previous derby meetings.

 

Admittedly, Cattermole had gone about it all wrong, leaving Dean with little choice than to issue an instant yellow card, even if the 23-year-old adeptly rode the disciplinary tightrope for the remainder of the 90 minutes.

 

But the precedent set by Cattermole rattled Tiote, who struggled to exert any midfield influence in that opening half, preoccupying himself with retaliating against the upstart visitors, though somehow he wasn’t booked until the 67th minute.

 

All of the limited football that was produced in the middle of the park in the first half came from the Black Cats, who were the only side with a structure around their approach play.

 

Newcastle relied upon a direct approach, which reaped little reward of substance, with John O’Shea pocketing wide-eyed derby debutant Papiss Demba Cisse.

 

After shrewdly taking the sting out of the home crowd by taking their time over set pieces in the opening tussles, Sunderland set the tempo and it revolved around their midfield axis of Cattermole, Craig Gardner and Seb Larsson.

 

The trio hunted down Newcastle in packs, prizing possession away from the hosts and pouncing on any loose balls before looking for opportunities on the counter-attack to the dangerous Stephane Sessegnon and Nicklas Bendtner, perhaps unsurprisingly thriving in the derby spotlight.

 

If Larsson, fresher than he had looked in weeks despite suffering from flu, had found a Sunderland head with several teasing crosses, or if Gardner had looked at better options out wide rather than immediately going for goal, those breaks could have produced bigger dividends than Bendtner’s penalty.

 

Certainly Newcastle could have had few complaints if they were trailing by more than one at the interval.

 

Tiote and Cabaye were both restricted to deep-lying roles that never worried Sunderland, who were happy to let Newcastle play in front of them rather than worrying about the pace of Demba Ba and Cisse in behind.

 

Other than Ba’s header on the stroke of half-time which crashed against the bar, it was arguably as comfortable a half, from a defensive point of view, as Sunderland have enjoyed all season.

 

As he did in August’s corresponding fixture though, Pardew’s half-time tinkering proved decisive after the former West Ham boss introduced the twinkle-toed Hatem Ben Arfa.

 

The Frenchman provided an elusive outlet on the right which Sunderland struggled to contain and suddenly there was someone capable of getting in behind the full-back and delivering a cross.

 

It allowed Jonas Gutierrez to push forward on the opposite flank and Sunderland’s comfortable, compact formation looked rattled from the increased tempo and intent of the hosts, even if Newcastle’s greatest threat remained from set pieces.

 

With Gardner and Cattermole either dragged wide or into their own area to contain the swarming Magpies attack, it allowed Tiote and Cabaye to take their turn to pick up the 50-50s and relaunch the ball into the crowded and often frantically defended goalmouth.

 

Whether that would have persisted for the entire half is a moot point, given the game hinged on Sessegnon’s dismissal just before the hour mark.

 

Certainly, the double chance for Larsson and James McClean just before the Benin international’s stray arm onto the collarbone of Tiote – surely trying to earn an audition for a remake of Apocalypse Now – suggested Sunderland could trouble Newcastle on the counter-attack.

 

But from the moment Sessegnon saw red, Sunderland’s arsenal was nullified.

 

Without an attacking outlet to relieve the pressure, Sunderland were confined to their own quarters and Newcastle’s midfield set up camp in opposition territory.

 

It became a matter of “will they or won’t they” find the net as wave after wave of black and white hordes descended on Simon Mignolet’s penalty area.

 

Mignolet’s spot-kick save from Ba looked to be the defining moment in breaking Magpie hopes of an equaliser. Unsurprisingly, Shola Ameobi thought better of that.

 

But as the raw dejection of going so close to a first Tyneside success in a decade eventually begins to wane, this blood and thunder encounter should be admired for the fire embodied by Cattermole and Tiote.

 

The game often bordered on the violent, but Sunderland produced what had been so glaringly absent from their previous three derby meetings – some fight and desperation to win.

 

Ultimately though, the 1-1 scoreline bore out Pardew’s prediction, Sunderland profiting from dominating the midfield battle in the opening 45 minutes and Newcastle doing likewise after the break.

 

At least Pardew produced some common sense on a weekend where he seemed to lose control over all his other senses.

 

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/newcastle-1-sunderland-1-chris-young-s-verdict-1-4312060

[Fenham Mag]

WHETHER it was a sense of insecurity at facing a trophy-laden counterpart or a shameless attempt to further endear himself to the “Geordie Nation”, Alan Pardew seemed intent on displaying the uglier side of his character.

 

The lack of class from either Pardew or assistant John Carver in consistently goading Martin O’Neill and his colleagues on the touchline was the unnecessary aspect of an absorbing derby tussle.

 

In a game where maturity is in short supply, the two 50-somethings should have known better.

 

Pardew at least admitted afterwards that he could have been “a bit more grown-up about it”, before bafflingly claiming he wasn’t “taking the moral high ground” – perhaps because he had trodden all over the low ground.

 

But amid all the Newcastle manager’s flannel, over-the-top fist punching and the coincidentally timed Saturday morning press conference to celebrate contract extensions, one thing the Magpies boss said in the derby furore did hold some resonance.

 

Beforehand, Pardew had predicted that the midfield tussle would be key to the pattern and outcome of proceedings and, in that respect, he struck his most harmonious chord of the whole weekend.

 

It was no coincidence that it took Lee Cattermole just 38 seconds to find his way into Mike Dean’s notebook after scything down opposite number Cheik Tiote from behind.

 

The Sunderland skipper wanted to lay down a marker to the African, send him a clear sign that the Black Cats were here to put up a fight, rather than the humble surrender of their three previous derby meetings.

 

Admittedly, Cattermole had gone about it all wrong, leaving Dean with little choice than to issue an instant yellow card, even if the 23-year-old adeptly rode the disciplinary tightrope for the remainder of the 90 minutes.

 

But the precedent set by Cattermole rattled Tiote, who struggled to exert any midfield influence in that opening half, preoccupying himself with retaliating against the upstart visitors, though somehow he wasn’t booked until the 67th minute.

 

All of the limited football that was produced in the middle of the park in the first half came from the Black Cats, who were the only side with a structure around their approach play.

 

Newcastle relied upon a direct approach, which reaped little reward of substance, with John O’Shea pocketing wide-eyed derby debutant Papiss Demba Cisse.

 

After shrewdly taking the sting out of the home crowd by taking their time over set pieces in the opening tussles, Sunderland set the tempo and it revolved around their midfield axis of Cattermole, Craig Gardner and Seb Larsson.

 

The trio hunted down Newcastle in packs, prizing possession away from the hosts and pouncing on any loose balls before looking for opportunities on the counter-attack to the dangerous Stephane Sessegnon and Nicklas Bendtner, perhaps unsurprisingly thriving in the derby spotlight.

 

If Larsson, fresher than he had looked in weeks despite suffering from flu, had found a Sunderland head with several teasing crosses, or if Gardner had looked at better options out wide rather than immediately going for goal, those breaks could have produced bigger dividends than Bendtner’s penalty.

 

Certainly Newcastle could have had few complaints if they were trailing by more than one at the interval.

 

Tiote and Cabaye were both restricted to deep-lying roles that never worried Sunderland, who were happy to let Newcastle play in front of them rather than worrying about the pace of Demba Ba and Cisse in behind.

 

Other than Ba’s header on the stroke of half-time which crashed against the bar, it was arguably as comfortable a half, from a defensive point of view, as Sunderland have enjoyed all season.

 

As he did in August’s corresponding fixture though, Pardew’s half-time tinkering proved decisive after the former West Ham boss introduced the twinkle-toed Hatem Ben Arfa.

 

The Frenchman provided an elusive outlet on the right which Sunderland struggled to contain and suddenly there was someone capable of getting in behind the full-back and delivering a cross.

 

It allowed Jonas Gutierrez to push forward on the opposite flank and Sunderland’s comfortable, compact formation looked rattled from the increased tempo and intent of the hosts, even if Newcastle’s greatest threat remained from set pieces.

 

With Gardner and Cattermole either dragged wide or into their own area to contain the swarming Magpies attack, it allowed Tiote and Cabaye to take their turn to pick up the 50-50s and relaunch the ball into the crowded and often frantically defended goalmouth.

 

Whether that would have persisted for the entire half is a moot point, given the game hinged on Sessegnon’s dismissal just before the hour mark.

 

Certainly, the double chance for Larsson and James McClean just before the Benin international’s stray arm onto the collarbone of Tiote – surely trying to earn an audition for a remake of Apocalypse Now – suggested Sunderland could trouble Newcastle on the counter-attack.

 

But from the moment Sessegnon saw red, Sunderland’s arsenal was nullified.

 

Without an attacking outlet to relieve the pressure, Sunderland were confined to their own quarters and Newcastle’s midfield set up camp in opposition territory.

 

It became a matter of “will they or won’t they” find the net as wave after wave of black and white hordes descended on Simon Mignolet’s penalty area.

 

Mignolet’s spot-kick save from Ba looked to be the defining moment in breaking Magpie hopes of an equaliser. Unsurprisingly, Shola Ameobi thought better of that.

 

But as the raw dejection of going so close to a first Tyneside success in a decade eventually begins to wane, this blood and thunder encounter should be admired for the fire embodied by Cattermole and Tiote.

 

The game often bordered on the violent, but Sunderland produced what had been so glaringly absent from their previous three derby meetings – some fight and desperation to win.

 

Ultimately though, the 1-1 scoreline bore out Pardew’s prediction, Sunderland profiting from dominating the midfield battle in the opening 45 minutes and Newcastle doing likewise after the break.

 

At least Pardew produced some common sense on a weekend where he seemed to lose control over all his other senses.

 

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/newcastle-1-sunderland-1-chris-young-s-verdict-1-4312060

 

2 x League cups in English football, wow. Trophies in Scotland aren't even worthy of putting on a CV.