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Fullbacks always goes for ridiculously low fees, despite how important they are in the modern game ( which is beyond my understanding)

 

Only the ridiculous ones like Dani Alves seems to have got a fair fee.

 

Santon and Debuchy for 10m man :yao:

 

 

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Fullbacks always goes for ridiculously low fees, despite how important they are in the modern game ( which is beyond my understanding)

 

Only the ridiculous ones like Dani Alves seems to have got a fair fee.

 

Santon and Debuchy for 10m man :yao:

 

 

 

They actually said getting him for E6m is like getting him for free...

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I wouldn't go that far :lol:

 

It is a bargain but i get the feeling the media are going a bit nuts because of Euros performances, would be surprised if we saw that every single week.

 

I agree... Quite intrigued to find out how good he is defensively...

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Don't know if these quotes have been mentioned, but he was on RMC Radio last night.

 

"Many people are saying I've taken a backwards step, but many people don't really know the Premier League and this club. I can tell you that within 2 days, I could see this was a very big club. When I was watching the Everton game from the stands, I had goosebumps, it's phenomenal. Newcastle are in a false position in the league given its size, the stadium, the fans...this is a great challenge ahead and I hope that in the next few matches we will rise up the league."

 

 

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I must admit that I can't wait to see how much of a difference it will make to us going forward.  Especially once we have Cabaye and Ben Arfa back in the side and somebody other than Mike Williamson in the centre of our defence.

 

Williamson must be replaced, Debuchy will be miles out of position at times and he'll need somebody to cover for him at the back if we're not going to get caught out like we currently do when Simpson plays.

 

Replace Williamson with a competent defender and the whole back 4 will change in its effectiveness.  Coloccini will not have to be all over the back and Santon will have a rock next to him so he’ll also gain more freedom.  The whole dynamics of our defence will instantly change if we finally upgrade Williamson.

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I must admit that I can't wait to see how much of a difference it will make to us going forward.  Especially once we have Cabaye and Ben Arfa back in the side and somebody other than Mike Williamson in the centre of our defence.

 

Williamson must be replaced, Debuchy will be miles out of position at times and he'll need somebody to cover for him at the back if we're not going to get caught out like we currently do when Simpson plays.

 

Replace Williamson with a competent defender and the whole back 4 will change in its effectiveness.  Coloccini will not have to be all over the back and Santon will have a rock next to him so he’ll also gain more freedom.  The whole dynamics of our defence will instantly change if we finally upgrade Williamson.

 

:thup:

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I must admit that I can't wait to see how much of a difference it will make to us going forward.  Especially once we have Cabaye and Ben Arfa back in the side and somebody other than Mike Williamson in the centre of our defence.

 

Williamson must be replaced, Debuchy will be miles out of position at times and he'll need somebody to cover for him at the back if we're not going to get caught out like we currently do when Simpson plays.

 

Replace Williamson with a competent defender and the whole back 4 will change in its effectiveness.  Coloccini will not have to be all over the back and Santon will have a rock next to him so he’ll also gain more freedom.  The whole dynamics of our defence will instantly change if we finally upgrade Williamson.

 

:thup:

 

It's such a shame Saylor turns to bolsa wood every quarter moon.

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Regarding covering full backs, Everton had a really good system to compensate for when Baines or Jagielka pushed forward. The wingers would work as hard as they could to cover but more often than not, it would be Phil Neville filling in gaps and sort of acting as an auxiliary defender. Certainly the type of job Anita or Tiote could do for us but our midfield has been too fluid of late, there's not been enough solid cover.

 

In fact Everton are a great example of why we could play a midfield 3 of Cabaye, Anita and Marveaux. None of their defending midfielders (Fellaini wasn't back a lot) are particularly physical but work unbelievably hard and have excellent positioning to compensate for their lack of physicality. We could easily do the same.

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I must admit that I can't wait to see how much of a difference it will make to us going forward.  Especially once we have Cabaye and Ben Arfa back in the side and somebody other than Mike Williamson in the centre of our defence.

 

Williamson must be replaced, Debuchy will be miles out of position at times and he'll need somebody to cover for him at the back if we're not going to get caught out like we currently do when Simpson plays.

 

Replace Williamson with a competent defender and the whole back 4 will change in its effectiveness.  Coloccini will not have to be all over the back and Santon will have a rock next to him so he’ll also gain more freedom.  The whole dynamics of our defence will instantly change if we finally upgrade Williamson.

 

Great post, please sign another center half please.

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We have to hope Saylor comes back soon and can remain fit for the rest of the season first and foremost, unless we can get a central defender in on loan with Premiership experience. As much as I'm sick of the sight of Williamson, to bring in somebody like Douglas as well as Debuchy and expect it to click straight away with a completely renovated back four in the middle of a relegation struggle is not something I would see Pardew going for. He likes to bed in players, and whilst it's sometimes frustrating I also think it's understandable with players coming from a foreign competition to let them get used to their team mates and the pace of the Premiership.

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We have to hope Saylor comes back soon and can remain fit for the rest of the season first and foremost, unless we can get a central defender in on loan with Premiership experience. As much as I'm sick of the sight of Williamson, to bring in somebody like Douglas as well as Debuchy and expect it to click straight away with a completely renovated back four in the middle of a relegation struggle is not something I would see Pardew going for. He likes to bed in players, and whilst it's sometimes frustrating I also think it's understandable with players coming from a foreign competition to let them get used to their team mates and the pace of the Premiership.

 

That's a very good point.

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We have to hope Saylor comes back soon and can remain fit for the rest of the season first and foremost, unless we can get a central defender in on loan with Premiership experience. As much as I'm sick of the sight of Williamson, to bring in somebody like Douglas as well as Debuchy and expect it to click straight away with a completely renovated back four in the middle of a relegation struggle is not something I would see Pardew going for. He likes to bed in players, and whilst it's sometimes frustrating I also think it's understandable with players coming from a foreign competition to let them get used to their team mates and the pace of the Premiership.

 

That's a very good point.

 

It's not if Taylor picks up another injury, and if we don't bring in another defender during this window we'll be in the same position as we are now, having to bed a new player in at some time.  Debuchy looks capable of fitting straight in anyway so I have few worries on that score, he's not a kid who is still learning the game.

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We have to hope Saylor comes back soon and can remain fit for the rest of the season first and foremost, unless we can get a central defender in on loan with Premiership experience. As much as I'm sick of the sight of Williamson, to bring in somebody like Douglas as well as Debuchy and expect it to click straight away with a completely renovated back four in the middle of a relegation struggle is not something I would see Pardew going for. He likes to bed in players, and whilst it's sometimes frustrating I also think it's understandable with players coming from a foreign competition to let them get used to their team mates and the pace of the Premiership.

 

That's a very good point.

 

It's not if Taylor picks up another injury, and if we don't bring in another defender during this window we'll be in the same position as we are now, having to bed a new player in at some time.  Debuchy looks capable of fitting straight in anyway so I have few worries on that score, he's not a kid who is still learning the game.

 

 

Where did I say we should not bring in another defender? My point was we should hope and pray Saylor can stay fit as we may well be in trouble if he isn't regardless if we need to bring in a new defender to a new team and competition under the pressure of a relegation scrap. Also, who would be the "new player we would have to bed in at some time" if "we don't bring in another defender during this window"? :crazy2:

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If we get everyone back fit (bar Taylor, can't see that happen), Williamson will look like a sore fucking thumb in our team. Simpson would make it look as if he was on par with other players in terms of ability on the ball. Now however, I hope to god nobody ever passes him.

 

We need a new CB as quickly as possible.

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