Kanj Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Said this awhile ago when people were crying out for him to play further forward. He's at his best with time and space to pick a pass.. preferrably long distance, he doesn't get that higher up. He's a good finisher when running onto the ball from deeper, whether in the box or outside. He's not like Nolan who could find space in the box if it was crowded... And then there's the slow feet/no pace.. His position for France is just perfect. He's not the deepest nor the furthest forward whenever i've seen them. Don't know why we can't play a real 4-3-3. Our wide players are so deep that we need a CM to always be pished up, 3 flat CMs behind the front 3 should be more than enough cover for Ben Arfa (on his respective side). If that means Anita b/c of his intelligence and discipline over Sissoko, so be it. Cabaye should always be the main-stay of the 3 with a combination of Tiote, Anita, Sissoko if we never use Marveaux in that #10 role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Don't forget Cisse himself. A player that contributes nothing. Simply put: keeping on as many match winners as possible when chasing a game in the last 25 minutes is something 95% of managers do. Especially when a team has so few. Pardew took off a more defensive player for a striker and kept on his AM. He would be criticised for being too defensive if he had taken off an attacker for an attacker. It may not have been the correct substitution but it was logical and made sense. Agreed, BUT, Anita was having a very good game as well, and was as likely to pop up with an assist, a goal, or even just create an opening as anyone else on the pitch. It isn't an argument about whether Anita or Cabaye should have been taken off. Both of them could have been kept on the pitch, and with a slight re-jig of the formation, we could have kept the pressure on. The point is rendered moot in this case because of the injury to Nasri IMO. is the right answer i suppose, don't necessarily disagree with keeping "match-winners" on the pitch, who would (?), but in the context of that game i disagreed fundamentally with taking anita off and always will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Still don't think Anita will get an extended run in the side over Tiote and Sissoko. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Said this awhile ago when people were crying out for him to play further forward. He's at his best with time and space to pick a pass.. preferrably long distance, he doesn't get that higher up. He's a good finisher when running onto the ball from deeper, whether in the box or outside. He's not like Nolan who could find space in the box if it was crowded... And then there's the slow feet/no pace.. His position for France is just perfect. He's not the deepest nor the furthest forward whenever i've seen them. Don't know why we can't play a real 4-3-3. Our wide players are so deep that we need a CM to always be pished up, Agree with this, it suits the personnel we've got. Gouffran on the left side of a front 3 would be really interesting, as would recalling Ben Arfa to the right side. A midfield of any 3 from Cabaye, Anita, Tiote and Sissoko should work too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Pardew likes 4 at the back and 4 in midfield. We call it a 4-2-3-1 but it's a 4-4-1-1 in reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 The wide players are often really deep.. so we end up with a flat 4 in midfield in Cabaye noticeably higher up than anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 cabaye was lost in the man city game for vast chunks of it like, me and the lad i was watching with kept looking for cabaye when sissoko or anita had the ball from the defence and he was nowhere near them most of the time...either he, or pardew got his role very wrong in that game, though this is the wrong thread of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 He's really a very important player for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BenArfa10 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 He's really a very important player for us. My god yes he is. I love him he recycles possession so well and so fast. I don't think we'd ever had a player like that. He is deceptively strong, is good in their air for his modest 5ft 5 frame. He's quick across the ground and has some great footwork on him. Can get overran sometimes when he comes up against the Yaya Toure's of the world but yes is vitally important to us and should be given and improved contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 We hardly won a single second ball when he went off. Was a poor sub taking him off again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BenArfa10 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 We hardly won a single second ball when he went off. Was a poor sub taking him off again. True but this is Pardew. I think as we already have a DM (and a more established one at that) then he is slightly dispensable to AP. It was a positive move bringing an attacker on (even if it was Shola) and Anita is just the easiest option which brings the smallest amount of disruption to our set-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Anita off Shola on is a shocking sub and tells you all about what Pardew had planned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Anita off Shola on is a shocking sub and tells you all about what Pardew had planned. The thing is we could have played better defensively with Anita still on the pitch. Pardew is an will always be clueless, shame all the yes men around him let him do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Anita off Shola on is a shocking sub and tells you all about what Pardew had planned. 'Shola on' is a shocking substitution regardless of opposition, scoreline or player he's replacing. The fact he's our automatic Plan B to either get back into a game or hold things tight is embarrassing. He simply shouldn't be playing top-flight football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 This lad has done great to keep his focus when shit for brains hauls him off for the likes of Shola. He without doubt keeps the play moving. If I had my way the side would be Krul Debuchy Willo Colo Santon Anita Sissoko\Tiote Cabaye Ben Arfa Gouffran Remy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Anita off Shola on is a shocking sub and tells you all about what Pardew had planned. Its like swapping a queen for a pawn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Anita off Shola on is a shocking sub and tells you all about what Pardew had planned. 'Shola on' is a shocking substitution regardless of opposition, scoreline or player he's replacing. The fact he's our automatic Plan B to either get back into a game or hold things tight is embarrassing. He simply shouldn't be playing top-flight football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Anita being subbed for Shola is beyond a joke and reinforces what a crap manager Pardew is. Anita has been a mainstay of the side this season and largely responsible for better results AND performances because he is that rare midfielder that every decent side needs....intelligent, skilful, perceptive and full of movement. His presence has released Tiote and Cabaye to do what they are good at and he keeps us moving forward. To a manager like Pardew, whose natural tendency is to shut up shop when a goal ahead, Anita is expendable because he is the type of player who doesn't create aggro when he is pi--ed about so Pardew can bring in his little pet static CF so the team can start punting long balls up to him(which he usually loses of course). Anita would be in my team every time unless he lost form drastically or was injured...if he was sold, our performances would drop off immediately, certainly in the watchability of the football.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Still don't think Anita will get an extended run in the side over Tiote and Sissoko. He should be in the side WITH Tiote and Cabaye and we need a better wide player than Sissoko...he loses the ball too much and if we had a decent winger, that would complete our m/f. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Sissoko's the new Jonas to Pardew. He's never been as consistently bad as Jonas was last season but he's had rough spells and never been close to getting dropped. Of all the midfielders we know Pardew won't drop Tiote/Cabaye but Sissoko's right next to them. The rest could lose their positions with a slight drop in form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Sissoko's the new Jonas to Pardew. He's never been as consistently bad as Jonas was last season but he's had rough spells and never been close to getting dropped. Of all the midfielders we know Pardew won't drop Tiote/Cabaye but Sissoko's right next to them. The rest could lose their positions with a slight drop in form. Weird time to say this when the un-droppable Jonas has just joined Norwich on loan and is upset about the way he has been shifted out. Plus Sissoko probably has more assists this season already than Jonas ever managed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckard 13 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Sissoko's the new Jonas to Pardew. He's never been as consistently bad as Jonas was last season but he's had rough spells and never been close to getting dropped. Of all the midfielders we know Pardew won't drop Tiote/Cabaye but Sissoko's right next to them. The rest could lose their positions with a slight drop in form. Weird time to say this when the un-droppable Jonas has just joined Norwich on loan and is upset about the way he has been shifted out. Plus Sissoko probably has more assists this season already than Jonas ever managed. This. Pretty sure Sissoko has more assists than anyone else in our team this season. Just needs to score more. He's been presented with some great chances in the last few games and hasn't taken them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I forgot Jonas is a dirty word around these parts. All I'm saying is despite any performance levels Sissoko will start games. I don't think he's been on the bench for a single league match since he joined. And he's had a couple poor spells in that year. He's effectively replaced Jonas in the untouchable group with Cabaye, Tiote, Colo and Krul. Under Pardew these have and will always start. Think it will take a long time for Anita to reach that level in Pardew's eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Is the untouchable group really untouchable if people move in and out if it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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