Nobody Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Garbage, man. We can't keep putting all our stock in one striker because we become fucking toothless when the inevitable happens. We need three goal threats out there at a minimum. Been like this the entire time Pardew has been here, and I'm fucking sick of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 It's the Luuk. it's the Luuk The Luuk de Jong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Think he's rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Think he's rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 The decision on whether NUFC buy Luuk de Jong or not will presumably be based on his performances during this loan period and not on how he did in the Netherlands over 2 seasons ago. People have said it's harsh to judge him this early in this team but NUFC have to. If Luuk de Jong doesn't start scoring goals I highly doubt NUFC will buy him. People may think it's tough for him to prove himself in this team but Remy has. Luuk de Jong had a season and a half to prove himself in at Borussia Mönchengladbach and he failed. I expected to see more of an impact from him than I've seen so far. He's playing for a contract. First and foremost a striker is judged on goals. He hasn't looked like scoring yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 The decision on whether NUFC buy Luuk de Jong or not will presumably be based on his performances during this loan period and not on how he did in the Netherlands over 2 seasons ago. People have said it's harsh to judge him this early in this team but NUFC have to. If Luuk de Jong doesn't start scoring goals I highly doubt NUFC will buy him. People may think it's tough for him to prove himself in this team but Remy has. Luuk de Jong had a season and a half to prove himself in at Borussia Mönchengladbach and he failed. I expected to see more of an impact from him than I've seen so far. He's playing for a contract. First and foremost a striker is judged on goals. He hasn't looked like scoring yet. True but they are totally different players we have no wingers yet de Jong would be better suited to having some crosses to attack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 The decision on whether NUFC buy Luuk de Jong or not will presumably be based on his performances during this loan period and not on how he did in the Netherlands over 2 seasons ago. People have said it's harsh to judge him this early in this team but NUFC have to. If Luuk de Jong doesn't start scoring goals I highly doubt NUFC will buy him. People may think it's tough for him to prove himself in this team but Remy has. Luuk de Jong had a season and a half to prove himself in at Borussia Mönchengladbach and he failed. I expected to see more of an impact from him than I've seen so far. He's playing for a contract. First and foremost a striker is judged on goals. He hasn't looked like scoring yet. Some players hit the ground running, some don't. Half a season to impress in a new league when you have barely played recently and the most creative player has left is going to be tough. If Remy was ours or I knew we were going to get in a proven goal scorer I would probably take a punt as de Jong looks an intelligent player with a good touch but we are severely lacking goals so Not sure we will get what we need LDJ or not tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I agree it is possible de Jong might rediscover his Netherlands league scoring form if he had more time but he doesn't have more time. The fact that he hasn't looked like scoring so far, his performances during his time at Borussia Mönchengladbach and the £8m fee he will cost mean at the moment I can't see NUFC being willing to gamble on buying him in the hope he recaptures his form from over 2 seasons ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 No chance we will spend that sort of money on him if he doesnt start scoring goals imo. The chances are, if the 8m figure is true, that it will be all or most of our summer budget and i doubt we would take that sort of a chance on him. It is not often you get to 'try before you buy', and if he doesnt start producing between now an the end of the season it would not be sensible of us to consider signing him permanently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I personally pity his girlfriend if his thrusting is a soft as his shooting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Unless the balls generally move a lot quicker in Holland than over here there is no problem with his ability in striking a ball, obviously this will become his 'thing' though now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Unless the balls generally move a lot quicker in Holland than over here there is no problem with his ability in striking a ball, obviously this will become his 'thing' though now. It will be until he hits a few hard shots on target. So far the two or three shots he has had have been piss weak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Unless the balls generally move a lot quicker in Holland than over here there is no problem with his ability in striking a ball, obviously this will become his 'thing' though now. It will be until he hits a few hard shots on target. So far the two or three shots he has had have been piss weak. Our lead heavy balls foil another strikers ambitions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 My issue with him is that he kicks the ball like a 5 year old Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I hope and think we can do better. One good season in the Eredivisie does not a good striker make... Though he is young, short on match fitness and confidence, I wouldn't be totally opposed to him being signed at the end of the season to replace Cisse. Luuk scores alot of goals from headers, which requires service. Debuchy aside, he isn't going to get that here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 We need to spend a shit load of money this summer, I don't think any of it will be spent on powder puff DE jong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Fuck me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Fuck me. Horses for courses like but you'd probably have better luck with tinder or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Was in the Fulham end with a Client on Saturday and was really close to LDJ's area of the pitch so spent a lot of time watching him. Inevitably, he's not got a forward option when he wins the ball. 90% of the time he passes back into midfield. The partnership with him and Cisse just cannot work. Cisse was occupying LDJ's space loads in the first half so when LDJ won a ball, Cisse was surrounded by the same group of players as him. He's the type of forward that needs players making runs off him. I'm sure it's been said before but him down the middle and Remy and HBA moving either side would be the obvious short term solution. He's certainly competent in the air and gave Fulham's CB's some problems in that regard. It's no good winning flick on's or holding the ball up if you've got fuck all to work with though. I like him and feel we could do something with the guy but we'd have to mould our attacking set up around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Winning flick ons and holding the ball up is all well and good but we need an out and out goal scorer. If Luuk de Jong doesn't turn out to be that then NUFC can't afford to spend their limited striker budget on him. It's no good having someone supplying the bullets if there is no one who can reliably fire them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Winning flick ons and holding the ball up is all well and good but we need an out and out goal scorer. If Luuk de Jong doesn't turn out to be that then NUFC can't afford to spend their limited striker budget on him. It's no good having someone supplying the bullets if there is no one who can reliably fire them. Agree with that but can't see that we won't invest in a 'goalscorer' when Remy fucks off and Cisse is sold. We'll have to. Surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Agree with that but can't see that we won't invest in a 'goalscorer' when Remy f***s off and Cisse is sold. We'll have to. Surely? If we spend £8m on Luuk de Jong how much of our transfer budget would be left to buy a goal scorer? Also, as others have said, we don't want to put all our eggs in one basket so ideally we'd need to buy two goal scorers (based on his form for the last 2 seasons I'm not counting de Jong as a goal scorer). That way when one is out of form or injured we have someone else to come in. That's before we count the cost of buying the goal scoring and creating midfielders we also need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Not sure it's a given that Cisse will be sold TBH, his value has to be rock bottom at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Haven't spent fuck all in 18 months and we are worrying about spending 8 million. How pitiful we are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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