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I actually think football has moved on a bit since allardyce's bolton days or whatever and don't think he'll be able to grind things out as well as used to, that said Stoke manage it I suppose. I still tip them to have a terrible start and allardyce to get sacked and end up with sven or something.

 

Know it sounds partisan and it would be a shame to not have the derby but can see Sunderland on a relegation death spiral, not most likely I know but the MON bump has officially gone, it's not a good squad, his transfers won't help and can see them struggling.

 

Aston Villa have another terrible squad but Lambert is good enough to keep them up I think but real candidates for me. Stoke as well, they were a bit found out last season too.

 

Have to wait and see with Swansea, depends on how well Laudrup does, may be great, they may fall apart a bit.

 

QPR too, doubt their signing spree will help, only contribute to their lack of cohesiveness. Southampton and Reading should do fine tbh, run well enough to be lower mid table.

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Allardyce is programmed to keep teams in the division and he'll grind enough points out to keep West Ham above danger. Swansea I think will regress slightly but not enough for them to go down.

 

Swansea tapered off quite comfortably as the season progressed, possibly because they got (partly) found out.

How much did they finish with, 44 points? Brendan gone ( even if he isnt the messiah bin dips make him out to be) and gylfi gone + possibly others - a slight regress can quickly get them into the mud.

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Allardyce is programmed to keep teams in the division and he'll grind enough points out to keep West Ham above danger. Swansea I think will regress slightly but not enough for them to go down.

 

Swansea tapered off quite comfortably as the season progressed, possibly because they got (partly) found out.

How much did they finish with, 44 points? Brendan gone ( even if he isnt the messiah bin dips make him out to be) and gylfi gone + possibly others - a slight regress can quickly get them into the mud.

 

Not only that Archie, but nobody knows how the current squad will take to Laudrup (he's fond of falling out with people) and how well he will adapt to the Premiership in general, so you'd have to say there are at serious risk.

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Sunderland are going to go close, poor defenders and not scoring score goals is always a bad sign.

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Nearly half of the league now is so incredibly mediocre.

 

It would be interesting if a third European competition was brought back, and like in rugby, every team except the bottom 3 won a place in one (which competition depending on where they finished).

 

Could see the likes of West Ham, Norwich, WBA, Southampton, QPR, Wigan and Stoke take a good beating from similar placed teams in other countries.

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I think West Brom look the most likely, their choice of manager was suicidal. Swansea too are another good shout, just can't see Laudrup being a success there.

 

I'm not sure how often this happens, I would imagine though it's very rare, but last year none of the promoted sides were relegated, surely the same thing can't happen again ? So one of the West Ham, Southampton or Reading to go. Fat Sam sides don't get relegated, so that removes West Ham, Reading are investing well in players that can keep them up, so I just think Southampton could be the unlucky ones, although wouldn't surprise me if the had a season like Swansea or Norwich did last year.

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Nigel Adkins has always impressed me as a manager. I remember his enthusiasm when Scunthorpe were playing Man City in the FA Cup third round, his interview was absolutely delightful. It was like a dad going to watch his bairn play for the first time and he could hardly contain himself.

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Waiting for someone to suggest us due to the logic of "well if Moyes leaves and they get a few injuries they'll be dragged into it". Happens every year.

 

If we go down this year, I'm questioning whether or not we should stick with Pardew.

 

I still have a bit of faith in him, especially as he effectively had the rug pulled from under him in the winter transfer window. And like yourselves, injuries played their part. :undecided:

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Allardyce is programmed to keep teams in the division and he'll grind enough points out to keep West Ham above danger. Swansea I think will regress slightly but not enough for them to go down.

 

He is a disgusting, fat grinder who picks up undeserved points but I was one of the few/many (I can't remember what the consensus was at the time) that thought he would have taken us down had Keegan not taken over

 

Totally agree with you, we were heading quickly in that direction.

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I think Swansea will be fine as Laudrup is a really good manager and with his reputation he will be able to attract some good players, and the squad won't have to adapt to his methods as his teams have always played in a similar way to how Swansea do already.

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If FSA is sacked, it'll be Redknapp back there.

 

This. Wham won't go down. The porn merchants will pull the trigger at the first sign of trouble. They didn't get rid of Grant a couple of years ago and ended up going down as a result. They've learnt their lesson imo. I'll happily stick a few quid on Allardyce being gone by Christmas though.

 

Contenders this year have got to be:

Stoke

West Brom

Norwich

Possibly QPR and Swansea, but they'll have enough to stay out of it unfortunately.

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It's going to be tight but as it stands now I would say Norwich, Swansea, and Southampton.

 

Fulham, Aston Villa, Stoke, WBA, West Ham, Reading, QPR, and Wigan will all make it tight though.

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There's genuinely about 8-10 teams that could go down.

 

Out of the bunch I'm going to take a stab at Wigan, Norwich and West Brom.

 

Gotta give up on Wigan man. Jesus must get free tracky bottoms from Dave Whelan or something. They're never going down.

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