binnsy Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 We were playing it short all pre-season as well. So it is definitely something Pardew is working on, good on him. Probably why we signed Anita, someone who will sit on the defence and always give them a passing option. after we signed Anita i had a quick look on youtube for any clips and there is one video of Ajax v PSV and it has every Anita touch, first thing that struck me watching was how many times he picked the ball up off the keeper and started Ajax's attacks from there D. Centre halfs would split and he would come deep to collect and away they would go. Tiote did it in one of the pre season games, can't remember which one, think it was one of the games in Portugal so think it could be something we will be doing this season, think its a better tactic playing 433 rather than 442 mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Our movement needs to improve a lot if we're going to make this passing game work, nice to see a commitment to it yesterday but it ended up going long in the end a lot anyway. The 4-4-2 is a big cause, neither of the strikers are much use in terms of dropping off and linking midfield and attack, and both CM's play quite deep when we go with just the two in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Someone referred to 433 as our plan B. If we have to rely on our plan B continuously to get us out of trouble, you'd hope Pards would figure it out on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 It seems clear to me that 433 is a good option, but that Ba is not at all keen being shoved out there. The 442 keeps everyone sweet but Pards needs to make a call on whether he favours Ba or the more expansive formation. Keeping Ba in a wide role is seemingly just going to alienate him. Despite his great goal, I thought he looked like he was sulking in the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 It seems clear to me that 433 is a good option, but that Ba is not at all keen being shoved out there. The 442 keeps everyone sweet but Pards needs to make a call on whether he favours Ba or the more expansive formation. Keeping Ba in a wide role is seemingly just going to alienate him. Despite his great goal, I thought he looked like he was sulking in the second half. the good thing is we have players who fit perfectly into either formation so even changing it during the game doesn't disrupt us. You have to give Spurs alot of credit yesterday though, the pressed us high up the pitch and made it difficult to get our passing game going. It showed it well on mOTD last night, we were struggling against them then all of a sudden we clicked for the goal, twice in the move we took 3 Spurs players out the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Common sense Colin Murray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 It seems clear to me that 433 is a good option, but that Ba is not at all keen being shoved out there. The 442 keeps everyone sweet but Pards needs to make a call on whether he favours Ba or the more expansive formation. Keeping Ba in a wide role is seemingly just going to alienate him. Despite his great goal, I thought he looked like he was sulking in the second half. the good thing is we have players who fit perfectly into either formation so even changing it during the game doesn't disrupt us. You have to give Spurs alot of credit yesterday though, the pressed us high up the pitch and made it difficult to get our passing game going. It showed it well on mOTD last night, we were struggling against them then all of a sudden we clicked for the goal, twice in the move we took 3 Spurs players out the game. We find it difficult to get a passing game going when ever we use 4-4-2 though it's just not a system designed for a passing game.... We still get results in it because we have so many players that can make a difference but it's not really suitable for that type of football. Also another thing if we are going to stick with 4-4-2 then Anita signing seems a bit pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 From NUFCThreatLevel Woodman's face in the background absolutely kills me in that pic. SOON!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Two years ago Arsène Wenger was given a one-game touchline ban and fined £8,000 for a similar offence at Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 If he is get a one-game touchline ban, hopefully we can delay any decision until after the Chelsea game, i would want Pard's on the touchline for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Similar sort of push, but squared up to the official afterwards and ranted in his face. He also never apologised iirc. Still expect him to be banned like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 He's going to get a 1 game ban. It was barely anything but he shouldn't have done it, it's a poor example to the players and I think while a games ban is harsh for so minor a thing I'm not sure I can complain either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Expect a one game ban too. It was clearly a spur of the moment (no pun intended) thing, he knew that straight away, came out and apologized. It was silly but rules are rules. Can have no complains if this is was happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Touchline bans are pretty much meaningless in this day and age anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Just remembered the alleged business with Mourinho and the washing basket with the wheels on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Touchline bans are pretty much meaningless in this day and age anyway. Depends really, if we can get some decent communication between JC and Pards then yeah i'd agree but if it's like Saturday then i'd say it could effect us tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Meh, not bothered with a one game ban. It is just about merited, it was heat of the moment, I think he basically wanted to tap the guy on the shoulder to get him to turn around so he could give him a piece of his mind, just got caught in the heat of the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Don't think Carver will have any problems filling in barking at players, and tactics should be passed down easily enough, all that'll consist of will be Pards: 4-4-2 as normal Carver: Right and when that doesn't work go to 4-3-3? Pards: Yea...NO, when the TIME IS RIGHT go to 4-3-3. Carver: suuuuuuure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Realist Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Don't think Carver will have any problems filling in barking at players, and tactics should be passed down easily enough, all that'll consist of will be Pards: 4-4-2 as normal Carver: Right and when that doesn't work go to 4-3-3? Pards: Yea...NO, when the TIME IS RIGHT go to 4-3-3. Carver: suuuuuuure It's a Drago v Creed mentality. Lull them into a false sense of security then tear them apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hydeous Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Don't think Carver will have any problems filling in barking at players, and tactics should be passed down easily enough, all that'll consist of will be Pards: 4-4-2 as normal Carver: Right and when that doesn't work go to 4-3-3? Pards: Yea...NO, when the TIME IS RIGHT go to 4-3-3. Carver: suuuuuuure It's a Drago v Creed mentality. Lull them into a false sense of security then tear them apart. Two great posts! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 He's been charged with misconduct by the FA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 He's been charged with misconduct by the FA. Just beat me to it. Let the witchhunt begin! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 He's been charged with misconduct by the FA. Suprised it wasn't violent conduct to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 It was a stupid thing to do and it annoyed me, but only really for the morality of it. The push itself was kids stuff - absolutely bugger all - but with this 'respect the refs' campaign, you'd expect a lot better from one of the country's model managers. One game ban and a fine sounds about right. Three would be over-the-top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Mate of mine reckons he will escape any touchline ban and will just be warned and fined due to him being apologetic about what happened. I reckon he will get same treatment as Wenger. 1 game touchline ban and about 10k fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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