Guest neesy111 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think there is a MON-esque situation developing at Newcastle. What I mean is, great swathes of the media (ie almost all of it) will be telling you what a great job Pardew has done for you, and is still doing, whilst you basically have to sit there, quietly fuming at the lack of insight this displays, and explaining to outsiders the mismatch between what the media would have you believe, and the truth as you see it, week in, week out. The local based national journalists are start to see big cracks in him mind. Bird & Caulkin in particular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think there is a MON-esque situation developing at Newcastle. What I mean is, great swathes of the media (ie almost all of it) will be telling you what a great job Pardew has done for you, and is still doing, whilst you basically have to sit there, quietly fuming at the lack of insight this displays, and explaining to outsiders the mismatch between what the media would have you believe, and the truth as you see it, week in, week out. At least Sunderland's board had the common sense to sack MON, I don't think ours will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think there is a MON-esque situation developing at Newcastle. What I mean is, great swathes of the media (ie almost all of it) will be telling you what a great job Pardew has done for you, and is still doing, whilst you basically have to sit there, quietly fuming at the lack of insight this displays, and explaining to outsiders the mismatch between what the media would have you believe, and the truth as you see it, week in, week out. We've been through it before mate, when Sam Allardyce was here and subsequently sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I don't really see the comparison to O'Neill, except that they both had bad spells. The press were bound to take time to criticise Pardew after last season. He also talks to them and doesn't come across as hostile, which helps his cause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKSC Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think there is a MON-esque situation developing at Newcastle. What I mean is, great swathes of the media (ie almost all of it) will be telling you what a great job Pardew has done for you, and is still doing, whilst you basically have to sit there, quietly fuming at the lack of insight this displays, and explaining to outsiders the mismatch between what the media would have you believe, and the truth as you see it, week in, week out. We've been through it before mate, when Sam Allardyce was here and subsequently sacked. Some of Fat Sam's friends will still bring it up from time to time. Citing, in particular, that we would never have been relegated in the first place if he had been allowed to stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I feel honoured to receive a; Spot on. From our internet overlord. Most of my posts seem to go by without anyone even noticing. I might post this in Jotenko's Good things to happen today thread. Never, ever enter that thread it's the psychological landfill of an insane Portuguese man. Edit: No wait, that's the ITALIAN FARM WORKERS thread. Please commence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think there is a MON-esque situation developing at Newcastle. What I mean is, great swathes of the media (ie almost all of it) will be telling you what a great job Pardew has done for you, and is still doing, whilst you basically have to sit there, quietly fuming at the lack of insight this displays, and explaining to outsiders the mismatch between what the media would have you believe, and the truth as you see it, week in, week out. We've been through it before mate, when Sam Allardyce was here and subsequently sacked. Some of Fat Sam's friends will still bring it up from time to time. Citing, in particular, that we would never have been relegated in the first place if he had been allowed to stay. Big Sam was absolute shite from start to finish IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Big sam is another manager who does not play to the strengths of the players he has, he has a set system and thats it. The players will be wedged in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think there is a MON-esque situation developing at Newcastle. What I mean is, great swathes of the media (ie almost all of it) will be telling you what a great job Pardew has done for you, and is still doing, whilst you basically have to sit there, quietly fuming at the lack of insight this displays, and explaining to outsiders the mismatch between what the media would have you believe, and the truth as you see it, week in, week out. At least Sunderland's board had the common sense to sack MON, I don't think ours will. Ashley is generally very loyal to the people who work for him if they have delivered in the past. But he's known for being ruthless if he loses faith in them. I don't know Ashley personally so have no idea what his view of Pardew is right now but I would think that AP would be unwise to think he just has to keep us up to stay here. I think Ashley would be looking at the final matches this season for some signs that AP can deliver results when any Europa side effects cannot be regarded as an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I feel sorry for him now. Pardew? Why? 1. Victim of his own success. 2. I seriously don't think he know's what to do to turn it around. 3. The players up to now have got off lightly for what has happened. Victim of his own success 5 games to go we're in danger of getting relegated with one of the most expensive squads in the premier FFS. He's obviously talking about last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 What Pardew want is blood and guts grafting players, players that will do all most basic brain dead s*** that he commands them to do over and over again without getting bored. Marveaux , Cabaye, santon, debuchy, colo, Anita, Cisse , obertan , hba , are all players he will never figure what to do with. What Pardew will thrive on is a team full of raylors, saylors , Williamsons ,Alan smiths, Bartons, Simpsons,Carrolls, Nolan , lovenkrands, Bests ,Jonas type of players. Not saying the players I named are s***, but they are more suited to his philosophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I feel sorry for him now. Pardew? Why? 1. Victim of his own success. 2. I seriously don't think he know's what to do to turn it around. 3. The players up to now have got off lightly for what has happened. Victim of his own success 5 games to go we're in danger of getting relegated with one of the most expensive squads in the premier FFS. He's obviously talking about last season. Last season's success is what has given him so much leeway this time round, he's hardly a victim because of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I feel sorry for him now. Pardew? Why? 1. Victim of his own success. 2. I seriously don't think he know's what to do to turn it around. 3. The players up to now have got off lightly for what has happened. Victim of his own success 5 games to go we're in danger of getting relegated with one of the most expensive squads in the premier FFS. He's obviously talking about last season. Last season's success is what has given him so much leeway this time round, he's hardly a victim because of it. So you wouldn't say your expectations were raised after we almost finished 4th? I know mine were, sure I didn't see us as top 4 but I thought we would be finishing between 5th-7th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I feel sorry for him now. Pardew? Why? 1. Victim of his own success. 2. I seriously don't think he know's what to do to turn it around. 3. The players up to now have got off lightly for what has happened. Victim of his own success 5 games to go we're in danger of getting relegated with one of the most expensive squads in the premier FFS. He's obviously talking about last season. Last season's success is what has given him so much leeway this time round, he's hardly a victim because of it. So you wouldn't say your expectations were raised after we almost finished 4th? I know mine were, sure I didn't see us as top 4 but I thought we would be finishing between 5th-7th. Not really, a lot of things went our way last season, but I'd have been happy to finish in the top 10 last season with a push for the top 8 this time round. The key would be signs of progress which would indicate good management. Next season we should be looking at top 6 with the incremental improvements made to the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I feel sorry for him now. Pardew? Why? 1. Victim of his own success. 2. I seriously don't think he know's what to do to turn it around. 3. The players up to now have got off lightly for what has happened. Victim of his own success 5 games to go we're in danger of getting relegated with one of the most expensive squads in the premier FFS. He's obviously talking about last season. Last season's success is what has given him so much leeway this time round, he's hardly a victim because of it. So you wouldn't say your expectations were raised after we almost finished 4th? I know mine were, sure I didn't see us as top 4 but I thought we would be finishing between 5th-7th. Not really, a lot of things went our way last season, but I'd have been happy to finish in the top 10 last season with a push for the top 8 this time round. The key would be signs of progress which would indicate good management. Next season we should be looking at top 6 with the incremental improvements made to the squad. Fair enough, to each their own I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Pardew's ideal team would be one full of Shaun Derry's, Alan Smith's, Michael Brown's and Richard Dunne's. Throw a Carlton Cole and Shola Ameobi or two in there and its a wet dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Bit of a silly thing to say considering Smith's days were basically numbered when Pardew took the job. And the fact we've bought players the complete opposite to the rubbish you've described in the last couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Pardew's dream team would a team of great footballers, if anyone thinks different, they would be mad. It's just he doesn't have the ability to get them to play the football their skills should facilitate, it's thats simple really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Bit of a silly thing to say considering Smith's days were basically numbered when Pardew took the job. And the fact we've bought players the complete opposite to the rubbish you've described in the last couple of years. an infuriating mystery, why buy these players when he has no fucking idea how to utilise them? maybe he convinced them he could...or maybe they just buy what carr says and carr understands football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think there is a MON-esque situation developing at Newcastle. What I mean is, great swathes of the media (ie almost all of it) will be telling you what a great job Pardew has done for you, and is still doing, whilst you basically have to sit there, quietly fuming at the lack of insight this displays, and explaining to outsiders the mismatch between what the media would have you believe, and the truth as you see it, week in, week out. At least Sunderland's board had the common sense to sack MON, I don't think ours will. Ashley is generally very loyal to the people who work for him if they have delivered in the past. But he's known for being ruthless if he loses faith in them. I don't know Ashley personally so have no idea what his view of Pardew is right now but I would think that AP would be unwise to think he just has to keep us up to stay here. I think Ashley would be looking at the final matches this season for some signs that AP can deliver results when any Europa side effects cannot be regarded as an issue. Chris Hughton says hi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Doh!!, read it as do you believe Ste's info.... Ignore my vote! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think there is a MON-esque situation developing at Newcastle. What I mean is, great swathes of the media (ie almost all of it) will be telling you what a great job Pardew has done for you, and is still doing, whilst you basically have to sit there, quietly fuming at the lack of insight this displays, and explaining to outsiders the mismatch between what the media would have you believe, and the truth as you see it, week in, week out. At least Sunderland's board had the common sense to sack MON, I don't think ours will. Ashley is generally very loyal to the people who work for him if they have delivered in the past. But he's known for being ruthless if he loses faith in them. I don't know Ashley personally so have no idea what his view of Pardew is right now but I would think that AP would be unwise to think he just has to keep us up to stay here. I think Ashley would be looking at the final matches this season for some signs that AP can deliver results when any Europa side effects cannot be regarded as an issue. Chris Hughton says hi. mike ashley says hi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Bit of a silly thing to say considering Smith's days were basically numbered when Pardew took the job. And the fact we've bought players the complete opposite to the rubbish you've described in the last couple of years. Retard think before you speak lol who signed these players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Bit of a silly thing to say considering Smith's days were basically numbered when Pardew took the job. And the fact we've bought players the complete opposite to the rubbish you've described in the last couple of years. Retard think before you speak lol who signed these players? Really any need at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Bit of a silly thing to say considering Smith's days were basically numbered when Pardew took the job. And the fact we've bought players the complete opposite to the rubbish you've described in the last couple of years. Retard think before you speak lol who signed these players? Really any need at all? no need to sit on the pedelstal at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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