Guest malandro Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 There's obviously a good reason why Pardew found himself in charge of a third division club ten years into his managerial career. Perhaps we are about to find out what that reason is. How many top flight clubs appoint a manager who had recently been sacked by a third tier club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 The Shola substitution was the most bizarre sub in years like. We were going alright up to half time and when he appeared on the touchline, it was obvious we were in for another exciting 45 minutes of standard route one dross. Pardew shat his pants at half time. If we got to 65-70 minutes and it was still 0-0 then that was the time to introduce Shola. Shola himself didn't do too badly tbf, it was just totally the wrong sub at the wrong time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 The Shola substitution was the most bizarre sub in years like. We were going alright up to half time and when he appeared on the touchline, it was obvious we were in for another exciting 45 minutes of standard route one dross. To sub him off for the one proper winger playing was nuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 The squad players are dreadful, though. You look at our bench and it has no goals, little guile, no defensive ability. Little wonder the big players don't perform as well as they could when they see that rabble behind them. You only need 11 purple players man, it's foolproof. Tbh there was more competition for places last season, with the likes of Guthrie and Best performing well and pushing for a starting place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 The Shola substitution was the most bizarre sub in years like. We were going alright up to half time and when he appeared on the touchline, it was obvious we were in for another exciting 45 minutes of standard route one dross. To be honest, it was expected as it's all Pardew knows, hoof the bastard ball to Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 That lack of attacking coaching is starting to seep through. Comment overheard in the Leazes that sums today up: "Whey, if we wah playing at Twickenham we'd be fuckin' battering them like". Bit unfair, it must have taken hours to perfect give it Hatem and hope for the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Just clubs that want a PR man as manager, someone who'll accept no involvement in incoming or outgoing transfers, who trains and picks the team and is grateful for it. But that's old ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Pardew post match: http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,16497_8255539,00.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20278313 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Pard has lost it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Just clubs that want a PR man as manager, someone who'll accept no involvement in incoming or outgoing transfers, who trains and picks the team and is grateful for it. But that's old ground. Tbh i dont care if he picks the players he buys or sells(i do really but accept our situation). There is no excuse for playing direct football in a formation that clearly doesn't suit the players he does have. He's proving himself to be a poor football manager at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Just clubs that want a PR man as manager, someone who'll accept no involvement in incoming or outgoing transfers, who trains and picks the team and is grateful for it. But that's old ground. Tbh i dont care if he picks the players he buys or sells(i do really but accept our situation). There is no excuse for playing direct football in a formation that clearly doesn't suit the players he does have. He's proving himself to be a poor football manager at the moment. I don't disagree with any of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 We all knew he'd rattle of the Cisse excuse, depressingly predictable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Comparing Cisse's importance, in this form, to Suarez. Jesus christ man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 We all knew he'd rattle of the Cisse excuse, depressingly predictable. I think, (well i dont actually), we would have been better with Cisse instead of Sammy up front today. Proof in that pudding has definitely not shown so far this season though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 We all knew he'd rattle of the Cisse excuse, depressingly predictable. I think, (well i dont actually), we would have been better with Cisse instead of Sammy up front today. Proof in that pudding has definitely not shown so far this season though. We'd have been better, but the team would've been just as disjointed and clueless going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Comparing Cisse's importance, in this form, to Suarez. Jesus christ man. You never know, it could have gone in off his cock today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Usually when he peddles his excuses I can at least appreciate where he's coming from. He's talking absolute bullshit there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 We all knew he'd rattle of the Cisse excuse, depressingly predictable. I think, (well i dont actually), we would have been better with Cisse instead of Sammy up front today. Proof in that pudding has definitely not shown so far this season though. We'd have been better, but the team would've been just as disjointed and clueless going forward. Aye, unfortunately. If only he would pick a system to suit the players. Huh, as if it was a simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Usually when he peddles his excuses I can at least appreciate where he's coming from. He's talking absolute bullshit there. agree. He needs to take responsibility for these last two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Usually when he peddles his excuses I can at least appreciate where he's coming from. He's talking absolute bullshit there. Imagine if he came and out and said: Shit, I've completely fucked this up haven't I? We had a great season last time round because we were tough to break down, fortunate with injuries and Ba and Cisse saw us through with brilliant scoring streaks. But now the injuries are mounting up and the individual brilliance isn't quite coming off we just look completely clueless don't we? We can't attack as a team, we can't pass the ball up the pitch, if I coached the squad into doing that the injuries wouldn't matter so much, we could still beat teams like Swansea, West Ham and Norwich at home if we focused on making the most out of our positive assets, rather than staying flat and rigid in an attempt to offset the weaknesses of the bad players and hoping for a bit of individual talent resulting in a goal every week. To be honest I'm as guilty as fat Mike for the team not pushing on in the summer, i should've built on the solid foundation we had and moved us into a more possession based game with the front 3 running the show, that 4-3-3 was electric at times wasnt it? What happened to that? Oh Demba doesn't like it. It's going to take ages for me to coach the lads a different way and for it to bear fruit, and to be honest I don't think I'm suited to it. Imagine that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 He's as bad as Joe Kinnear with what he says. Pardew just doesn't swear so it sounds better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I think he's starting to lose it. His post-match comments are just cowardly nonsense and his insistence on always having 2 strikers on the pitch is a detriment to the team, once again today we had very little presence in the centre of the pitch. The formation was just weird in the first half and using Sammy as a striker was just stupid. We don't have the players to make a 2 man midfield work Pards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Just clubs that want a PR man as manager, someone who'll accept no involvement in incoming or outgoing transfers, who trains and picks the team and is grateful for it. But that's old ground. IMO in order for a club to have sustained success these days, 80% of the off-field stuff shouldn't be handled by a manager. Someone like Jol has experience of this. Focus on coaching and tactics primarily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 The squad players are dreadful, though. You look at our bench and it has no goals, little guile, no defensive ability. Little wonder the big players don't perform as well as they could when they see that rabble behind them. You only need 11 purple players man, it's foolproof. Tbh there was more competition for places last season, with the likes of Guthrie and Best performing well and pushing for a starting place. At the time, letting go of Guthrie and Best was seen as 'okay' because we assumed we'd be upgrading in the transfer market. Be really nice to have both back now, especially for Europa games. We really shot ourselves in the foot this past offseason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 the players he is widely believed to have wanted in the summer are exactly what we are missing: Andy Carroll (how we could have used him in the last 2 games) Debuchy - obvious improvement on Simpson A centre half who can get goals from set pieces(and presumably would be a better footballer than Williamson). If we had them and our central midfielders got settled and found some form we wouldn't look too bad imo. I think we absolutely have to buy in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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