loki679 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 No way Demba will play out on the left AND stay beyond january. He can piss off then. Nobody is bigger than the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 No way Demba will play out on the left AND stay beyond january. He can p*ss off then. Nobody is bigger than the club. I agree! He's not even one of my 5 favourite Newcastle players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 No way Demba will play out on the left AND stay beyond january. He can p*ss off then. Nobody is bigger than the club. I agree! He's not even one of my 5 favourite Newcastle players. Whew, thank god for that. We don't have to worry about dropping him now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8290112/? Work haaard, harder. How do i get the article (text) on here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Alan Pardew insists he is not panicking despite his side's disappointing run of form in the Premier League. Newcastle travel to Stoke on Wednesday hoping to avoid a fourth successive defeat, a stark contrast to the impressive form of last season which saw the Magpies claim a top-five finish. And Pardew, who is without injured duo Steven Taylor and Yohan Cabaye until February, says his players must find the right balance between working hard and taking risks. "You can't doubt your risk-taking, because actually, that's what it affects as a player," said Pardew. "When they say people are struggling with confidence, I always think it's our struggling with risk-taking because you don't take risks, you play safe and sometimes when you play safe, you don't get any reward. "There's a balance between really working hard and risk-taking, and that's what we need to get right at Stoke. "We are certainly not panicking, but we need to be conscious of where we are in the division and that we have got tough games around the corner. "We are going to need to kick into gear - and kick into gear with some key players missing, by the way. "That means we have all got to work that little bit harder." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 What kind of schmuck doesn't know how to copy and paste ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ikon Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 No way Demba will play out on the left AND stay beyond january. He can p*ss off then. Nobody is bigger than the club. I agree! He's not even one of my 5 favourite Newcastle players. Whew, thank god for that. We don't have to worry about dropping him now. I didn't say that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 "We are going to need to kick into gear - and kick into gear with some key players missing, by the way. He just can't help himself Also said that you didn't need luck to win games, before launching into a rant about how we've had bad luck with injuries He just needs to shut up tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 What kind of schmuck doesn't know how to copy and paste ffs. When i do it on my iPad it takes all the the text/links and other shit around that hasn't anything to do with the article itself. So i thought there was some other technique as well apart from the obvius which i use when im on my computer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Like he doesn't have anything to do with us being all defense first. "We are going to need to kick into gear - and kick into gear with some key players missing, by the way." Jesus christ, fuck right off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 No way Demba will play out on the left AND stay beyond january. He'll struggle finding a buyer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Overall we still have better players than some other teams, but they play to their strengts and as a team and therefore pick up points here and there. Which i can't see us do (not as many) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 christ, what the fuck is Pardew even talking about there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 His interview today was shite No new tactics, it's down to the players! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 What kind of schmuck doesn't know how to copy and paste ffs. When i do it on my iPad it takes all the the text/links and other shit around that hasn't anything to do with the article itself. So i thought there was some other technique as well apart from the obvius which i use when im on my computer. Oh look at me, flaunting my bourgeois toys in front of these commoners. Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 No wonder that not many people on here can see him turn it around! Making the same mistakes over and over again and refusing to change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 No way Demba will play out on the left AND stay beyond january. He'll struggle finding a buyer. I could see QPR being interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Heard him on SSN earlier saying we have injuries and we just have to get on with it. Does mentioning it at every given opportunity count as just getting on with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Heard him on SSN earlier saying we have injuries and we just have to get on with it. Does mentioning it at every given opportunity count as just getting on with it? Roeder and sourness were specialists at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Heard him on SSN earlier saying we have injuries and we just have to get on with it. Does mentioning it at every given opportunity count as just getting on with it? 'We won't moan about it' is a good one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 No wonder that not many people on here can see him turn it around! Making the same mistakes over and over again and refusing to change. The bit I've made bold is probably the no.1 reason why I'm so fucking angry with Pardew atm. If I was to see something different each week, even it was a different set piece or different corner scenario, I'd still be pissed at losing but if I could see there was some semblence of effort in putting things right I would give him a little more slack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I'd back this move or a move to Newcastle- nline Genius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceMag Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Apologies if this has already been posted. Newcastle United were the surprise package of last season, coming within an inch of UEFA Champions League qualification with Messrs Pardew and Ashley meeting the high demands of the Toon faithful in spectacular style. Chief scout Graham Carr added his name to an exclusive list of Geordie messiahs following the shrewd recommendations of key players Cheick Tiote, Yohan Cabaye and Hatem Ben Arfa, who are arguably now all worth treble their transfer fees. Another signing who exploded onto the scene was their number nine, Papiss Demba Cisse. Signed from Freiburg in January, everything Cisse touched turned to goals. Less than seven months on from his two extraordinary goals against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge, which left an onlooking Didier Drogba speechless, it seems almost inconceivable that he's enduring such a barren run of form. Some Newcastle supporters have asked the question as to whether Pardew has the credentials to repeat the success of last season and, although there is currently no real danger, more repeats of their abject performance against Southampton would see the club sucked into the division's basement. With pre-season optimism starting to fade quickly amongst the Geordies, David Bowers discusses the issues facing the Tyneside club. The Demba Dilemma Ba and Cisse: Struggling to make a partnership Cisse was convinced to join Newcastle by his Senegalese compatriot, Demba Ba, who had a blistering start to last season, netting 15 times before he departed to the Africa Cup of Nations. It seemed as if the fans had a new strike-force to boast about, longing for a partnership to rival the Keegan era of Shearer and Ferdinand. Cisse netted on his debut against Aston Villa whilst Ba was also on the score sheet. However, that was the only time they have both scored in the same game, causing great concern to the management and fans alike. Pardew has been accused of aiming to please the Senegalese duo by rewarding them with a starting place, rather than sacrificing one of them for the better of the team. Whether that's switching Ba to the left of a 4-3-3 formation or dropping one of them altogether, there is a growing perception amongst the fans who insist that Pardew should change his tactics in the short term rather than concentrating on helping Cisse find his form. Pardew believed their side's 2-1 loss to Swansea at home earlier this month was partly due to the Senegalese FA blocking Cisse the opportunity to play, following his failure to report for international duty because of a back injury. Many deemed it bizarre and unnecessary to blame defeat upon a striker who is completely shot of confidence. Whether that was a vote of confidence from the manager or unnecessary pressure, Pardew has to accept that the form of the team is far more important than the form of an individual. 4-3-3 or 4-4-2? One of Newcastle's most impressive performances of last season came against West Bromwich Albion away on 25th March when they won 3-1 and displayed a devastating combination of skill and pace, whilst playing the counter-attack to perfection. Fans have fond memories of that game, as their preferred 4-3-3 formation was deployed. Sacrificing Ba to the left of a front three also comprising Cisse and Ben Arfa, the Magpies played superbly and connected midfield to attack brilliantly through the added support of Cabaye. Is it a coincidence that, during their recent poor performances, Newcastle have gone with a less creative, less imaginative 4-4-2 formation? As previously mentioned, it seems evident that Ba and Cisse are finding it difficult to forge a partnership. Despite this, Pardew has been banking on those two to create chances from aimless long balls from the back, whilst heavily relying on Ben Arfa being able to pick up the ball from deep and repeat another wonder-strike similar to his goal against Bolton. The reality is that there is no connection between midfield and attack in a 4-4-2 formation, with key players like Tiote and Cabaye in the centre of midfield having little influence. Arguably, Cabaye is Newcastle's most important player. In a 4-3-3 formation, he has more licence to roam and more options available to him on either flank. Popular opinion within the game is that 4-4-2 is becoming more of an obsolete formation, and that you can't have two out-and-out goalscorers fighting for the limelight. In the modern game, it's increasingly difficult to impose yourself upon the game by just scoring goals. More is expected of strikers, such as coming in from deep and helping to assist other players. With 4-4-2 at Newcastle, you have Ba and Cisse both desperately seeking personal glory without massively contributing to the rest of the game. There leaves a huge gap between midfield and attack, with the only remedy being another long ball from the back. 4-3-3 sacrifices one of them to become more of a winger, which arguably makes them more active in the game. Set Pieces Not only are Newcastle finding it hard to create many clear-cut chances within open play, their lack of inventiveness from set-pieces is alarming. Many teams would be accused of under preparing if they were to face an opponent with just one set-play, but that seems to be exactly the case for the Magpies. Every game this season has seen Newcastle presented with a decent opportunity from a set-piece, but almost every time they have used the same set-play. A floating ball to the back post to Mike Williamson/Steven Taylor, who heads it back into the box to an opposition defender, who has plenty of time to clear. Many, if not all, of the Toon Army are fully aware of their failings at set-pieces and are growing increasingly frustrated and confused that there is a lack of alternatives, considering they have genuine aerial threats in Williamson, Taylor and Ba. Although only a small percentage of goals come from set-pieces, there is still a chance. Pardew and his coaching staff must focus on deploying another set-play as the fans anticipate disappointment from a free-kick or corner, rather than expectancy and optimism. Europa League or Premier League? A wafer-thin squad caused by injuries could most likely be down to the added game-time and intensity of the Europa League. Pardew insisted that his line-ups would mostly consist of younger players who would be given a chance to prove themselves. However, injuries to squad players such as Dan Gosling, Haris Vuckic and Ryan Taylor have led to Pardew relying on the services of those who were supposed to be rested, such as Ben Arfa who limped off with a hamstring injury in a relatively unimportant game against Maritimo. Pardew has another distressing situation to face, whether to go gung-ho in the Europa League or focus on getting back to winning ways in the Premier League. Winning the Europa League will of course put them into next year's competition but there lies a 40-year-old dilemma for Newcastle fans: Whether to win a trophy or focus on a healthy Premier League season. Having fixtures against well-established European teams such as Club Brugge and Bordeaux sandwiched in between games against Sunderland and Manchester United is incredibly difficult for a team without the financial strength of the top four, but there is no real degree of sympathy towards the Newcastle management as they appeared to fluff their chances of added much-needed quality to the side. Transfer Window It seems as if the intensity of the Europa League has been underestimated by the Newcastle hierarchy. They featured heavily throughout the tabloid gossip pages after Pardew admitted his interest in re-signing Andy Carroll, whilst their pursuit of Lille right-back Matthieu Debuchy ended prematurely. Though funds were available, only Vurnon Anita and Gael Bigirimana, an 18 year old earmarked as one for the future, walked through the Newcastle doors. There was a risk of banking on last season's squad to remain injury and suspension-free, a risk which has potentially backfired on the owner Mike Ashley and managing director Derek Llambias. With the January transfer window a little over a month away, expect to see Newcastle heavily involved. Even if they have all their key players back from suspension or injury, they are perilously close to having an inexperienced first XI and cannot afford to rely on the likes of Sammy Ameobi and Shane Ferguson performing to a top-six standard. Stability is a word which has rarely been affiliated with Newcastle United. With Pardew signing an eight-year deal, it seemed that they were in a position to firmly establish themselves as a Premier League force. However, Pardew has won one game since penning his contract in September and the Christmas period in which they face Manchester City, Manchester United, QPR, Arsenal and Everton could hinder their chances of repeating the achievements of last season. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11662/8286209/Out-of-Toon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Apologies if this has already been posted. Newcastle United were the surprise package of last season, coming within an inch of UEFA Champions League qualification with Messrs Pardew and Ashley meeting the high demands of the Toon faithful in spectacular style. Chief scout Graham Carr added his name to an exclusive list of Geordie messiahs following the shrewd recommendations of key players Cheick Tiote, Yohan Cabaye and Hatem Ben Arfa, who are arguably now all worth treble their transfer fees. Another signing who exploded onto the scene was their number nine, Papiss Demba Cisse. Signed from Freiburg in January, everything Cisse touched turned to goals. Less than seven months on from his two extraordinary goals against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge, which left an onlooking Didier Drogba speechless, it seems almost inconceivable that he's enduring such a barren run of form. Some Newcastle supporters have asked the question as to whether Pardew has the credentials to repeat the success of last season and, although there is currently no real danger, more repeats of their abject performance against Southampton would see the club sucked into the division's basement. With pre-season optimism starting to fade quickly amongst the Geordies, David Bowers discusses the issues facing the Tyneside club. The Demba Dilemma Ba and Cisse: Struggling to make a partnership Cisse was convinced to join Newcastle by his Senegalese compatriot, Demba Ba, who had a blistering start to last season, netting 15 times before he departed to the Africa Cup of Nations. It seemed as if the fans had a new strike-force to boast about, longing for a partnership to rival the Keegan era of Shearer and Ferdinand. Cisse netted on his debut against Aston Villa whilst Ba was also on the score sheet. However, that was the only time they have both scored in the same game, causing great concern to the management and fans alike. Pardew has been accused of aiming to please the Senegalese duo by rewarding them with a starting place, rather than sacrificing one of them for the better of the team. Whether that's switching Ba to the left of a 4-3-3 formation or dropping one of them altogether, there is a growing perception amongst the fans who insist that Pardew should change his tactics in the short term rather than concentrating on helping Cisse find his form. Pardew believed their side's 2-1 loss to Swansea at home earlier this month was partly due to the Senegalese FA blocking Cisse the opportunity to play, following his failure to report for international duty because of a back injury. Many deemed it bizarre and unnecessary to blame defeat upon a striker who is completely shot of confidence. Whether that was a vote of confidence from the manager or unnecessary pressure, Pardew has to accept that the form of the team is far more important than the form of an individual. 4-3-3 or 4-4-2? One of Newcastle's most impressive performances of last season came against West Bromwich Albion away on 25th March when they won 3-1 and displayed a devastating combination of skill and pace, whilst playing the counter-attack to perfection. Fans have fond memories of that game, as their preferred 4-3-3 formation was deployed. Sacrificing Ba to the left of a front three also comprising Cisse and Ben Arfa, the Magpies played superbly and connected midfield to attack brilliantly through the added support of Cabaye. Is it a coincidence that, during their recent poor performances, Newcastle have gone with a less creative, less imaginative 4-4-2 formation? As previously mentioned, it seems evident that Ba and Cisse are finding it difficult to forge a partnership. Despite this, Pardew has been banking on those two to create chances from aimless long balls from the back, whilst heavily relying on Ben Arfa being able to pick up the ball from deep and repeat another wonder-strike similar to his goal against Bolton. The reality is that there is no connection between midfield and attack in a 4-4-2 formation, with key players like Tiote and Cabaye in the centre of midfield having little influence. Arguably, Cabaye is Newcastle's most important player. In a 4-3-3 formation, he has more licence to roam and more options available to him on either flank. Popular opinion within the game is that 4-4-2 is becoming more of an obsolete formation, and that you can't have two out-and-out goalscorers fighting for the limelight. In the modern game, it's increasingly difficult to impose yourself upon the game by just scoring goals. More is expected of strikers, such as coming in from deep and helping to assist other players. With 4-4-2 at Newcastle, you have Ba and Cisse both desperately seeking personal glory without massively contributing to the rest of the game. There leaves a huge gap between midfield and attack, with the only remedy being another long ball from the back. 4-3-3 sacrifices one of them to become more of a winger, which arguably makes them more active in the game. Set Pieces Not only are Newcastle finding it hard to create many clear-cut chances within open play, their lack of inventiveness from set-pieces is alarming. Many teams would be accused of under preparing if they were to face an opponent with just one set-play, but that seems to be exactly the case for the Magpies. Every game this season has seen Newcastle presented with a decent opportunity from a set-piece, but almost every time they have used the same set-play. A floating ball to the back post to Mike Williamson/Steven Taylor, who heads it back into the box to an opposition defender, who has plenty of time to clear. Many, if not all, of the Toon Army are fully aware of their failings at set-pieces and are growing increasingly frustrated and confused that there is a lack of alternatives, considering they have genuine aerial threats in Williamson, Taylor and Ba. Although only a small percentage of goals come from set-pieces, there is still a chance. Pardew and his coaching staff must focus on deploying another set-play as the fans anticipate disappointment from a free-kick or corner, rather than expectancy and optimism. Europa League or Premier League? A wafer-thin squad caused by injuries could most likely be down to the added game-time and intensity of the Europa League. Pardew insisted that his line-ups would mostly consist of younger players who would be given a chance to prove themselves. However, injuries to squad players such as Dan Gosling, Haris Vuckic and Ryan Taylor have led to Pardew relying on the services of those who were supposed to be rested, such as Ben Arfa who limped off with a hamstring injury in a relatively unimportant game against Maritimo. Pardew has another distressing situation to face, whether to go gung-ho in the Europa League or focus on getting back to winning ways in the Premier League. Winning the Europa League will of course put them into next year's competition but there lies a 40-year-old dilemma for Newcastle fans: Whether to win a trophy or focus on a healthy Premier League season. Having fixtures against well-established European teams such as Club Brugge and Bordeaux sandwiched in between games against Sunderland and Manchester United is incredibly difficult for a team without the financial strength of the top four, but there is no real degree of sympathy towards the Newcastle management as they appeared to fluff their chances of added much-needed quality to the side. Transfer Window It seems as if the intensity of the Europa League has been underestimated by the Newcastle hierarchy. They featured heavily throughout the tabloid gossip pages after Pardew admitted his interest in re-signing Andy Carroll, whilst their pursuit of Lille right-back Matthieu Debuchy ended prematurely. Though funds were available, only Vurnon Anita and Gael Bigirimana, an 18 year old earmarked as one for the future, walked through the Newcastle doors. There was a risk of banking on last season's squad to remain injury and suspension-free, a risk which has potentially backfired on the owner Mike Ashley and managing director Derek Llambias. With the January transfer window a little over a month away, expect to see Newcastle heavily involved. Even if they have all their key players back from suspension or injury, they are perilously close to having an inexperienced first XI and cannot afford to rely on the likes of Sammy Ameobi and Shane Ferguson performing to a top-six standard. Stability is a word which has rarely been affiliated with Newcastle United. With Pardew signing an eight-year deal, it seemed that they were in a position to firmly establish themselves as a Premier League force. However, Pardew has won one game since penning his contract in September and the Christmas period in which they face Manchester City, Manchester United, QPR, Arsenal and Everton could hinder their chances of repeating the achievements of last season. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11662/8286209/Out-of-Toon so obvious to everyone but the management Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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