Guest Dontooner Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 He should get sacked after not trying to win today, its not like Norwich is Manchester. Honestly even against QPR and Reading we wont nick a win with the tactics we are playing. The scary thing for me, is that i scan the table and could not see a team that i feel confident we could beat now.(Maybe Villa) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Pardew on SSN: Couldn't fault application Showed spirit in no uncertain terms We have momentum now Goalie was terrific tough place to come performed well Debuchy rocky first 10 minutes Where isn't when you're Alan Pardew? Your players wives? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Chasing 3 or 4 targets is a joke, tbh, as it means we're looking to sign one or two. You always look to sign more than you actually need. We need 3 or 4 new players, so we SHOULD be chasing 10-12 targets IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Nolberto Solano @NolbertoSolano Maybe I find my boots, grow 6 inches, lose 5kg and call Mr Pardew?? (Oh and get Peru take 10 years from my passport) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Hmm, I'm not sure we'll win them. The table looks awful though, we're definitively in the bottom group now, it's not even lingering mid/bottom half anymore. I know the table looks rotten but we've reversed a massive slide today and I'm over the moon with that. We're not going to go from being utterly s**** to even average from one game to the next without replacing the manager so we need to be patient. Wonder where the optimism is coming from, personally i dont see any improvement on Pardew's Part. The lack of ideas going forward was always his weakness, the lack of cohesion in team play was his weakness...making the team hard to beat was his only merit (in terms of tactics). We are just reverting, would be play better and start climbing the table? Honestly i see no signs of that in the last 17 matches.. Well, at least we're back to being somewhat resilient defensively now, thanks to Jonas being in the team again. Everything depends on next week now - have we really bottomed out or are we going to be relegated this season? The only times we look resilient defensively is when we defend really deep with all the attackers defending as well. Any team can do that, basically stick 10 men behind the ball, hoof a few long punts down the field and hope to nick one from somewhere. That's why I was quite impressed with Brighton last week. Not only did they have good defensive discipline, they also had good movement off the ball in possession. Looks like some coaching and planning goes on down there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Hmm, I'm not sure we'll win them. The table looks awful though, we're definitively in the bottom group now, it's not even lingering mid/bottom half anymore. I know the table looks rotten but we've reversed a massive slide today and I'm over the moon with that. We're not going to go from being utterly s**** to even average from one game to the next without replacing the manager so we need to be patient. Wonder where the optimism is coming from, personally i dont see any improvement on Pardew's Part. The lack of ideas going forward was always his weakness, the lack of cohesion in team play was his weakness...making the team hard to beat was his only merit (in terms of tactics). We are just reverting, would be play better and start climbing the table? Honestly i see no signs of that in the last 17 matches.. Well, at least we're back to being somewhat resilient defensively now, thanks to Jonas being in the team again. Everything depends on next week now - have we really bottomed out or are we going to be relegated this season? The only times we look resilient defensively is when we defend really deep with all the attackers defending as well. Any team can do that, basically stick 10 men behind the ball, hoof a few long punts down the field and hope to nick one from somewhere. That's why I was quite impressed with Brighton last week. Not only did they have good defensive discipline, they also had good movement off the ball in possession. Looks like some coaching and planning goes on down there. Sometimes I wonder how Pardew got his coaching qualifications in the first place. Don't you have to know these things to coach a premiership team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Game was there to be won today, but he bottled it - set us up for the point. I'm disturbed as to how lacking in ideas and attacking play we are, as well as the lack of incoming transfers. Nevermind fannying about saying we are in for '3 or 4' - get them feckin signed! In saying that, we all know what will happen. We will get to deadline day - a couple of loan deals and a cheap signing or two. The talk of Remy, etc is nothing more than BS to pacify the fans. Won't wash with me anymore. Pardew is a coward and he has the look and sound of a man who knows he is running out of time. Ashley would sooner jettison him than us lot turn on the owner again. Umpteenth time in saying this - but this is what happens when you have non-football men running the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Trying to battle relegation using relegation fodder tactics. What a buffoon. Hoofing to Cisse, ffs. Detest the man's tactics and his approach to games. If he'd had some balls in September /October we wouldn't be in this position. Fuck sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubblyDubblyDubbly Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Umpteenth time in saying this - but this is what happens when you have non-football men running the club. Horseplop. Citeh, Manure, Chelski, Ar*e all have non-football men running the club but they are all prepared to spend big. The rest like Reading Scumderland, Villa have the same non-footballing men but aren't aren't prepared to invest... same as Cashley. The game has changed.. it's now a business/billionaires playground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 We didn't hoof it, we haven't hoofed it for a good while now. Aside from when the ball goes to Williamshit. We simply didn't play. Either the players don't have the confidence to move or they we encouraged to keep their shape and not move. When we have the ball, no players move forward or into space in any hurry to receive the ball. That is the story of our entire season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Umpteenth time in saying this - but this is what happens when you have non-football men running the club. Horseplop. Citeh, Manure, Chelski, Ar*e all have non-football men running the club but they are all prepared to spend big. The rest like Reading Scumderland, Villa have the same non-footballing men but aren't aren't prepared to invest... same as Cashley. The game has changed.. it's now a business/billionaires playground. Those few teams you mention at the start are loaded with money, so any mistakes they make can be resolved by money. Sea Chelsea for details. Any mistakes we make seem to take half a season or a seaon to resolve. Ive come to a conclusion with Decker and Ashley, they will not listen to anyones advice who have been in football. They want to make there own way through this, making their own mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 We didn't hoof it, we haven't hoofed it for a good while now. Aside from when the ball goes to Williamshit. We simply didn't play. Either the players don't have the confidence to move or they we encouraged to keep their shape. When we are have the ball, no players move forward or into space in any hurry to receive the ball. That is the story of our entire season. It's so rigid isn't it, the lack of movement of any purpose makes us look even worse. Well at home to Reading, no excuses for him now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 We didn't hoof it, we haven't hoofed it for a good while now. Aside from when the ball goes to Williamshit. We simply didn't play. Either the players don't have the confidence to move or they we encouraged to keep their shape. When we are have the ball, no players move forward or into space in any hurry to receive the ball. That is the story of our entire season. It's so rigid isn't it, the lack of movement of any purpose makes us look even worse. Well at home to Reading, no excuses for him now. The thing that gets me the most is, to impose some sort of movement and passing and little urgency, it doesn't require great technical players to achieve this. It isn't rocket science. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Pardew on SSN: Couldn't fault application Showed spirit in no uncertain terms We have momentum now Goalie was terrific tough place to come performed well Debuchy rocky first 10 minutes Momentum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Surprised he's getting so much grief after an away draw in such tricky circumstances. Next week is huge mind. The football is dire mate, absolutely rotten. Last season we could say 'yeah but it's getting results, he's making us hard to beat and we'll push on from there'. The way we started this season was enough to tell me that there was never the intention to move on from there, he only knows keep it tight and nick one football. He's getting stick because of the football, when you consider the talent we've got in some areas, we're an absolutely awful team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Surprised he's getting so much grief after an away draw in such tricky circumstances. Next week is huge mind. The football is dire mate, absolutely rotten. Last season we could say 'yeah but it's getting results, he's making us hard to beat and we'll push on from there'. The way we started this season was enough to tell me that there was never the intention to move on from there, he only knows keep it tight and nick one football. He's getting stick because of the football, when you consider the talent we've got in some areas, we're an absolutely awful team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Surprised he's getting so much grief after an away draw in such tricky circumstances. Next week is huge mind. The football is dire mate, absolutely rotten. Last season we could say 'yeah but it's getting results, he's making us hard to beat and we'll push on from there'. The way we started this season was enough to tell me that there was never the intention to move on from there, he only knows keep it tight and nick one football. He's getting stick because of the football, when you consider the talent we've got in some areas, we're an absolutely awful team. I do think Pardew's getting a bit of easy ride of it in the media and from the stands, to be honest. I don't want him sacked yet but frankly the job he's doing this season would warrant it and then some if he hadn't done such a good job in his first 18 months here. That said, it's misleading to suggest the talent we have at our disposal should guarantee an on-field return in proportion to that talent. We've got absolutely nothing apart from Cisse from an attacking perspective and the midfielders we have are horribly unsuited to filling the void. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Nolberto Solano @NolbertoSolano Maybe I find my boots, grow 6 inches, lose 5kg and call Mr Pardew?? (Oh and get Peru take 10 years from my passport) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Mick would still take him. Be our Giggs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Technically he'd be our best winger even now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Do we have any others? Depends on how you see Hatem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Surprised he's getting so much grief after an away draw in such tricky circumstances. Next week is huge mind. The football is dire mate, absolutely rotten. Last season we could say 'yeah but it's getting results, he's making us hard to beat and we'll push on from there'. The way we started this season was enough to tell me that there was never the intention to move on from there, he only knows keep it tight and nick one football. He's getting stick because of the football, when you consider the talent we've got in some areas, we're an absolutely awful team. I do think Pardew's getting a bit of easy ride of it in the media and from the stands, to be honest. I don't want him sacked yet but frankly the job he's doing this season would warrant it and then some if he hadn't done such a good job in his first 18 months here. That said, it's misleading to suggest the talent we have at our disposal should guarantee an on-field return in proportion to that talent. We've got absolutely nothing apart from Cisse from an attacking perspective and the midfielders we have are horribly unsuited to filling the void. It'll change in the stands if we so shite next week v Reading IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I didn't see the game today, and as shit as Norwich apparently were, I can understand setting up for a point. We needed to stop the rot today, desperately. You've got to hope the clean sheet will give us some confidence. EDIT: And having Cabaye (and even Gutierrez, out of form or not he's a senior player I guess) back can only help. Hopefully Taylor will be back for Reading, although I bet Williamson keeps his place due to today's shutout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Surprised he's getting so much grief after an away draw in such tricky circumstances. Next week is huge mind. The football is dire mate, absolutely rotten. Last season we could say 'yeah but it's getting results, he's making us hard to beat and we'll push on from there'. The way we started this season was enough to tell me that there was never the intention to move on from there, he only knows keep it tight and nick one football. He's getting stick because of the football, when you consider the talent we've got in some areas, we're an absolutely awful team. Bang on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Fail to win next game, crowd surely has to talk turn on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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