Alan Pardew

[gbandit]

Don't really post much anymore but going to weigh in with one about Pardew because I honestly can't stand the man as our manager any longer.

 

Over the summer I didn't complain about our transfer policy as much as most on here and it turns out that I was wrong really. We definitely should have got a centre-half in and if we don't get one in in this window along with a striker then it's a farce. I am an advocate of spending sensibly but we are are in the shit right now and we absolutely need quality players in who can make a difference. It's the financially sensible thing to do otherwise we're looking at a serious relegation fight.

 

Those points aside, how the fuck are we even in a relegation fight? It's absolutely disgraceful how we've ended up in this position, irrespective of our summer signings. We had Ba and Cisse fit throughout the first half of the season along with Krul, Santon, Anita, Tiote (yes, he's been utter shite but I think in a different manager's hands, he would have been forced to do his main job, winning the ball back, not trying to be a fucking deep-lying playmaker) and Marveaux (should have been played a lot more). Apart from that, Ben Arfa and Cabaye have both played 10+ games. Those players alone should mean that we are sitting in 10th/11th with a hope of 8th in the second half of the season with returning players.

 

Instead, we played atrocious football for the first 15 league games where we completely ignored passing it along the ground. We have had close to no movement, we break incredibly slowly, we pass it out to the wings and then wait around for people to move forward but no one does and then Jonas or Obertan deliver in a piss-weak ball that is cleared straight away. So many of our players (not just Williamson) absolutely launched it only for the opposing team's centre-halves to head it down to one of their players. This tactic must have had less than a 10% success rate of us retaining the ball and yet we continued to do it. Our set pieces have been abominable and have shown no signs of creation.

 

I complained a lot about Pardew last season, even when a lot were getting behind him but I completely changed my mind during that six-game winning run but the reality is, we did well last season because Ba and Cisse scored wonder goals again and again, Krul was incredible and our defence was solid. I will give Pardew credit for the defensive solidity but that has disappeared now to the extent that I've gone back to that awful dread everytime the opposing team wins a corner. Because he's set us up as a defensive unit and obviously doesn't work on coaching a pass-and-move game which plays to a number of our player's strengths, we're now in a position where the players don't have the confidence to play to their own strengths or even try to. So we can't play ourselves out of trouble.

 

We invite so much pressure almost every game and teams always get in behind us yet we almost never get in behind other teams or create the same chances. fundamentally, this is down to Pardew. Yes, we've been unlucky with injuries, yes, we need a couple more players, but our playing style is the reason we're in the shit. Give us Martinez, Adkins, Lambert, Benitez, Villas Boas, Ferguson, Laudrup, Mcdermott, Mancini, Rodgers, Moyes, Jol, Wenger, O'Neill, even that that fat cunt allardyce would have got better football out of these players. The only manager I think could have messed things up as bad would be Pulis, but only a footballing front, he would have got better results.

 

I'm fuming and have went on many digressions above but I hope my fury is in some way intelligible.

 

Just sack this twat off now, I think you could do a fucking pot luck pick from the championship and the majority of managers from there would do a better job than this clown. The best reward from this transfer window would be him going and us getting a proper replacement but we know it's not going to happen.

 

Right, I'll disappear into the shadows once more

[Mick]

 

You honestly think there was a hope in hell that Alan Pardew would have turned down the chance to manage NUFC at the stage of his career he was at?  There was no chance, they could have asked him to do the job in drag and he'd have happily obliged.  Another consideration is that the guy won manager of the year last year, if he's starting to feel like he's in trouble then part of the reason for his 'poor me' routine could be that he's talking himself up for his next job.

 

Anybody in his position would feel as if they'd won the lottery and to a certain degree he had.  Pity he found a system that worked towards the end of last season, only to get rid of it at the first opportunity.

 

I would love to know what thoughts went into that decision, my guess is that he's so arrogant he didn't think it could go wrong.

[Darth Crooks]

His excuses changed to suit all the while in a piss poor  smoke and mirrors attempt to maske fact that hes a  tactical vacuum

[Interpolic]

 

You honestly think there was a hope in hell that Alan Pardew would have turned down the chance to manage NUFC at the stage of his career he was at?  There was no chance, they could have asked him to do the job in drag and he'd have happily obliged.  Another consideration is that the guy won manager of the year last year, if he's starting to feel like he's in trouble then part of the reason for his 'poor me' routine could be that he's talking himself up for his next job.

 

Anybody in his position would feel as if they'd won the lottery and to a certain degree he had.  Pity he found a system that worked towards the end of last season, only to get rid of it at the first opportunity.

 

I would love to know what thoughts went into that decision, my guess is that he's so arrogant he didn't think it could go wrong.

 

Agree regarding the system, it was totally ridiculous and now we're playing catch-up on so many levels.  Don't get me wrong like, I have little to no sympathy for him - just saying that it's not that hard to believe that those 2 at the top have worn him down.

[Jack Flash]

I was wrong

 

This is all everyone saw.

[colinmk]

You honestly think there was a hope in hell that Alan Pardew would have turned down the chance to manage NUFC at the stage of his career he was at?  There was no chance, they could have asked him to do the job in drag and he'd have happily obliged.  Another consideration is that the guy won manager of the year last year, if he's starting to feel like he's in trouble then part of the reason for his 'poor me' routine could be that he's talking himself up for his next job.

 

That's crossed my mind lately.

[Parky]

Good post fella. Covers nearly all of it apart from the derranged and delusional post match antics Pards comes out with in interviews.

[Legacy]

Don't really post much anymore but going to weigh in with one about Pardew because I honestly can't stand the man as our manager any longer.

 

Over the summer I didn't complain about our transfer policy as much as most on here and it turns out that I was wrong really. We definitely should have got a centre-half in and if we don't get one in in this window along with a striker then it's a farce. I am an advocate of spending sensibly but we are are in the s*** right now and we absolutely need quality players in who can make a difference. It's the financially sensible thing to do otherwise we're looking at a serious relegation fight.

 

Those points aside, how the f*** are we even in a relegation fight? It's absolutely disgraceful how we've ended up in this position, irrespective of our summer signings. We had Ba and Cisse fit throughout the first half of the season along with Krul, Santon, Anita, Tiote (yes, he's been utter s**** but I think in a different manager's hands, he would have been forced to do his main job, winning the ball back, not trying to be a f***ing deep-lying playmaker) and Marveaux (should have been played a lot more). Apart from that, Ben Arfa and Cabaye have both played 10+ games. Those players alone should mean that we are sitting in 10th/11th with a hope of 8th in the second half of the season with returning players.

 

Instead, we played atrocious football for the first 15 league games where we completely ignored passing it along the ground. We have had close to no movement, we break incredibly slowly, we pass it out to the wings and then wait around for people to move forward but no one does and then Jonas or Obertan deliver in a p*ss-weak ball that is cleared straight away. So many of our players (not just Williamson) absolutely launched it only for the opposing team's centre-halves to head it down to one of their players. This tactic must have had less than a 10% success rate of us retaining the ball and yet we continued to do it. Our set pieces have been abominable and have shown no signs of creation.

 

I complained a lot about Pardew last season, even when a lot were getting behind him but I completely changed my mind during that six-game winning run but the reality is, we did well last season because Ba and Cisse scored wonder goals again and again, Krul was incredible and our defence was solid. I will give Pardew credit for the defensive solidity but that has disappeared now to the extent that I've gone back to that awful dread everytime the opposing team wins a corner. Because he's set us up as a defensive unit and obviously doesn't work on coaching a pass-and-move game which plays to a number of our player's strengths, we're now in a position where the players don't have the confidence to play to their own strengths or even try to. So we can't play ourselves out of trouble.

 

We invite so much pressure almost every game and teams always get in behind us yet we almost never get in behind other teams or create the same chances. fundamentally, this is down to Pardew. Yes, we've been unlucky with injuries, yes, we need a couple more players, but our playing style is the reason we're in the s***. Give us Martinez, Adkins, Lambert, Benitez, Villas Boas, Ferguson, Laudrup, Mcdermott, Mancini, Rodgers, Moyes, Jol, Wenger, O'Neill, even that that fat c*** allardyce would have got better football out of these players. The only manager I think could have messed things up as bad would be Pulis, but only a footballing front, he would have got better results.

 

I'm fuming and have went on many digressions above but I hope my fury is in some way intelligible.

 

Just sack this t*** off now, I think you could do a f***ing pot luck pick from the championship and the majority of managers from there would do a better job than this clown. The best reward from this transfer window would be him going and us getting a proper replacement but we know it's not going to happen.

 

Right, I'll disappear into the shadows once more

 

I agree with all this to be honest. I was actually thinking earlier that if pulis was in charge, yes we'd still play shite football, but he knows how to make it work and his team plays as a team. Pardew can't even make the crap football work and the players look more like individuals out there than they ever have.

[madras]

 

You honestly think there was a hope in hell that Alan Pardew would have turned down the chance to manage NUFC at the stage of his career he was at?  There was no chance, they could have asked him to do the job in drag and he'd have happily obliged.  Another consideration is that the guy won manager of the year last year, if he's starting to feel like he's in trouble then part of the reason for his 'poor me' routine could be that he's talking himself up for his next job.

 

Anybody in his position would feel as if they'd won the lottery and to a certain degree he had.  Pity he found a system that worked towards the end of last season, only to get rid of it at the first opportunity.

 

I would love to know what thoughts went into that decision, my guess is that he's so arrogant he didn't think it could go wrong.

2 goalscorers, try and get them in tandem, doesn't always work straight away but he did keep it going far too long.

 

i disagreed with him doing it to start with but i can understand why.

[Parky]

His excuses changed to suit all the while in a piss poor  smoke and mirrors attempt to maske fact that hes a  tactical vacuum

 

[Jack Flash]

He'll have no bother getting a high end Championship or low end Premier League job regardless of how the next 5 months go imo. That 5th place finish means more than a(nother) relegation.

[Interpolic]

He'll have no bother getting a high end Championship or low end Premier League job regardless of how the next 5 months go imo. That 5th place finish means more than a(nother) relegation.

 

The stronger the perception that he's been hamstrung by injuries and a lack of investment the better job he'll get.

 

Never mind that we should have got much better results this year with the players we've had on the pitch, he's creating the perception he's had an impossible job.

[Mick]

He'll have no bother getting a high end Championship or low end Premier League job regardless of how the next 5 months go imo. That 5th place finish means more than a(nother) relegation.

 

George Burley.

[Jack Flash]

He'll have no bother getting a high end Championship or low end Premier League job regardless of how the next 5 months go imo. That 5th place finish means more than a(nother) relegation.

 

The stronger the perception that he's been hamstrung by injuries and a lack of investment the better job he'll get.

 

Never mind that we should have got much better results this year with the players we've had on the pitch, he's creating the perception he's had an impossible job.

 

Definitely. If he gets sacked now there'd be a fair amount of sympathy for him from casual fans mainly due to his self preservation and that 8 year contract.

[Guest Phil K]

But he's been whining about the "impossible job" before we even kicked off the season.

I was alarmed at the way he was making excuses for bad performances before a damn ball was kicked.

[Jack Flash]

He'll have no bother getting a high end Championship or low end Premier League job regardless of how the next 5 months go imo. That 5th place finish means more than a(nother) relegation.

 

George Burley.

 

He got sacked when Ipswich were near the bottom of Division 1 iirc. Hopefully Pardew won't be around to experience that particular low (again).

[TRon]

Don't really post much anymore but going to weigh in with one about Pardew because I honestly can't stand the man as our manager any longer.

 

Over the summer I didn't complain about our transfer policy as much as most on here and it turns out that I was wrong really. We definitely should have got a centre-half in and if we don't get one in in this window along with a striker then it's a farce. I am an advocate of spending sensibly but we are are in the shit right now and we absolutely need quality players in who can make a difference. It's the financially sensible thing to do otherwise we're looking at a serious relegation fight.

 

Those points aside, how the fuck are we even in a relegation fight? It's absolutely disgraceful how we've ended up in this position, irrespective of our summer signings. We had Ba and Cisse fit throughout the first half of the season along with Krul, Santon, Anita, Tiote (yes, he's been utter shite but I think in a different manager's hands, he would have been forced to do his main job, winning the ball back, not trying to be a fucking deep-lying playmaker) and Marveaux (should have been played a lot more). Apart from that, Ben Arfa and Cabaye have both played 10+ games. Those players alone should mean that we are sitting in 10th/11th with a hope of 8th in the second half of the season with returning players.

 

Instead, we played atrocious football for the first 15 league games where we completely ignored passing it along the ground. We have had close to no movement, we break incredibly slowly, we pass it out to the wings and then wait around for people to move forward but no one does and then Jonas or Obertan deliver in a piss-weak ball that is cleared straight away. So many of our players (not just Williamson) absolutely launched it only for the opposing team's centre-halves to head it down to one of their players. This tactic must have had less than a 10% success rate of us retaining the ball and yet we continued to do it. Our set pieces have been abominable and have shown no signs of creation.

 

I complained a lot about Pardew last season, even when a lot were getting behind him but I completely changed my mind during that six-game winning run but the reality is, we did well last season because Ba and Cisse scored wonder goals again and again, Krul was incredible and our defence was solid. I will give Pardew credit for the defensive solidity but that has disappeared now to the extent that I've gone back to that awful dread everytime the opposing team wins a corner. Because he's set us up as a defensive unit and obviously doesn't work on coaching a pass-and-move game which plays to a number of our player's strengths, we're now in a position where the players don't have the confidence to play to their own strengths or even try to. So we can't play ourselves out of trouble.

 

We invite so much pressure almost every game and teams always get in behind us yet we almost never get in behind other teams or create the same chances. fundamentally, this is down to Pardew. Yes, we've been unlucky with injuries, yes, we need a couple more players, but our playing style is the reason we're in the shit. Give us Martinez, Adkins, Lambert, Benitez, Villas Boas, Ferguson, Laudrup, Mcdermott, Mancini, Rodgers, Moyes, Jol, Wenger, O'Neill, even that that fat cunt allardyce would have got better football out of these players. The only manager I think could have messed things up as bad would be Pulis, but only a footballing front, he would have got better results.

 

I'm fuming and have went on many digressions above but I hope my fury is in some way intelligible.

 

Just sack this twat off now, I think you could do a fucking pot luck pick from the championship and the majority of managers from there would do a better job than this clown. The best reward from this transfer window would be him going and us getting a proper replacement but we know it's not going to happen.

 

Right, I'll disappear into the shadows once more

 

Very hard hitting, but a lot of what you say rings true.

[Interpolic]

He'll have no bother getting a high end Championship or low end Premier League job regardless of how the next 5 months go imo. That 5th place finish means more than a(nother) relegation.

 

The stronger the perception that he's been hamstrung by injuries and a lack of investment the better job he'll get.

 

Never mind that we should have got much better results this year with the players we've had on the pitch, he's creating the perception he's had an impossible job.

 

Definitely. If he gets sacked now there'd be a fair amount of sympathy for him from casual fans mainly due to his self preservation and that 8 year contract.

 

If he went then it'd be like the Allardyce situation all over again, England's football fans and press alike absolutely slagging off our club after having seen us half a dozen times on Match Of The Day and glancing at the league table.  Wouldn't be quite as bad, as Allardyce clearly has more friends in the press.

[TherealnorthernTOON]

just realized this epic page number.

[Interpolic]

Everybody do the

[Guest bimpy474]

Don't really post much anymore but going to weigh in with one about Pardew because I honestly can't stand the man as our manager any longer.

 

Over the summer I didn't complain about our transfer policy as much as most on here and it turns out that I was wrong really. We definitely should have got a centre-half in and if we don't get one in in this window along with a striker then it's a farce. I am an advocate of spending sensibly but we are are in the shit right now and we absolutely need quality players in who can make a difference. It's the financially sensible thing to do otherwise we're looking at a serious relegation fight.

 

Those points aside, how the fuck are we even in a relegation fight? It's absolutely disgraceful how we've ended up in this position, irrespective of our summer signings. We had Ba and Cisse fit throughout the first half of the season along with Krul, Santon, Anita, Tiote (yes, he's been utter shite but I think in a different manager's hands, he would have been forced to do his main job, winning the ball back, not trying to be a fucking deep-lying playmaker) and Marveaux (should have been played a lot more). Apart from that, Ben Arfa and Cabaye have both played 10+ games. Those players alone should mean that we are sitting in 10th/11th with a hope of 8th in the second half of the season with returning players.

 

Instead, we played atrocious football for the first 15 league games where we completely ignored passing it along the ground. We have had close to no movement, we break incredibly slowly, we pass it out to the wings and then wait around for people to move forward but no one does and then Jonas or Obertan deliver in a piss-weak ball that is cleared straight away. So many of our players (not just Williamson) absolutely launched it only for the opposing team's centre-halves to head it down to one of their players. This tactic must have had less than a 10% success rate of us retaining the ball and yet we continued to do it. Our set pieces have been abominable and have shown no signs of creation.

 

I complained a lot about Pardew last season, even when a lot were getting behind him but I completely changed my mind during that six-game winning run but the reality is, we did well last season because Ba and Cisse scored wonder goals again and again, Krul was incredible and our defence was solid. I will give Pardew credit for the defensive solidity but that has disappeared now to the extent that I've gone back to that awful dread everytime the opposing team wins a corner. Because he's set us up as a defensive unit and obviously doesn't work on coaching a pass-and-move game which plays to a number of our player's strengths, we're now in a position where the players don't have the confidence to play to their own strengths or even try to. So we can't play ourselves out of trouble.

 

We invite so much pressure almost every game and teams always get in behind us yet we almost never get in behind other teams or create the same chances. fundamentally, this is down to Pardew. Yes, we've been unlucky with injuries, yes, we need a couple more players, but our playing style is the reason we're in the shit. Give us Martinez, Adkins, Lambert, Benitez, Villas Boas, Ferguson, Laudrup, Mcdermott, Mancini, Rodgers, Moyes, Jol, Wenger, O'Neill, even that that fat cunt allardyce would have got better football out of these players. The only manager I think could have messed things up as bad would be Pulis, but only a footballing front, he would have got better results.

 

I'm fuming and have went on many digressions above but I hope my fury is in some way intelligible.

 

Just sack this twat off now, I think you could do a fucking pot luck pick from the championship and the majority of managers from there would do a better job than this clown. The best reward from this transfer window would be him going and us getting a proper replacement but we know it's not going to happen.

 

Right, I'll disappear into the shadows once more

 

Excellent post, very accurate too.

[afar]

page 442 and no mention of tactics

[Disco]

The thing is that you can say what you like about him losing it (I'm putting my personal feelings aside for a sec), but the fact that most of his media quotes are made to try to influence Ashley and Llambias is just so transparent it's untrue.  Not sure how anyone can deny that tbh, it's totally obvious.

 

So basically he signed up under the agreement he'd be their puppet and now things aren't going too well he's getting desperate and trying to save his own skin/reputation.

 

Yep. I'm utterly convinced that this is simply Pardew trying to absolve himself from blame ahead of the transfers we need failing to materialise. As the .com piece says, people will turn on the him and the club if signings aren't made and we continue to struggle. He's absolutely right about our lack of quality and depth, but a poor workman blames his tools...

 

well put.

 

Surprised at those comments tbh, must really be feeling the heat. Be interesting to know what's been said behind closed doors.

 

 

You honestly think there was a hope in hell that Alan Pardew would have turned down the chance to manage NUFC at the stage of his career he was at?  There was no chance, they could have asked him to do the job in drag and he'd have happily obliged.  Another consideration is that the guy won manager of the year last year, if he's starting to feel like he's in trouble then part of the reason for his 'poor me' routine could be that he's talking himself up for his next job.

 

[Dokko]

If this club was my life, I think I'd probably kill myself.  every thought about the club since around the start of November has been negative, imagine that much negativity for that length of time?  :'(

 

Glad apathy set in sometime just before Xmas, just like it did in the relegation season, and now most of the time I find myself just laughing at the cock end that is our manager, our shit luck, our awful football and depressing situation we find ourselves in. There is literally no way out, our board are not prepared to finance a rescue package and if we survive it'll be through luck and luck alone.

 

Do you feel lucky? Well do you punk?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nope.

[Smal]

Lock the thread on this page and start a new one imo.