Jack Flash Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I know this isn't true but listening to Pardew's comments sometimes, it's almost as if he wants us to go down Had similar thoughts myself. Just shows what a bad job he's doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Remember when he said Reading will stay up no problems after the away game because they kicked our arses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiemonster Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 For all those who want shot of Pardew - who exactly is going to replace him? I can't see managers queuing up to work under a regime where you can build a decent squad and then watch as transfer window after transfer window your best players are touted out to all and sundry? I don't think Pardew is a great manager, but this season is mostly down to the fact we didn't strengthen in the summer despite knowing we had a weak squad and despite knowing we were in Europe. We got Debuchy for a million less or whatever in Jan, but thats not gonna help if we go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 For all those who want shot of Pardew - who exactly is going to replace him? I can't see managers queuing up to work under a regime where you can build a decent squad and then watch as transfer window after transfer window your best players are touted out to all and sundry? I don't think Pardew is a great manager, but this season is mostly down to the fact we didn't strengthen in the summer despite knowing we had a weak squad and despite knowing we were in Europe. We got Debuchy for a million less or whatever in Jan, but thats not gonna help if we go down. I like how you try and make a case for Pardew and use touting our players as a reason other managers might not come, he was the one touting them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiemonster Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 For all those who want shot of Pardew - who exactly is going to replace him? I can't see managers queuing up to work under a regime where you can build a decent squad and then watch as transfer window after transfer window your best players are touted out to all and sundry? I don't think Pardew is a great manager, but this season is mostly down to the fact we didn't strengthen in the summer despite knowing we had a weak squad and despite knowing we were in Europe. We got Debuchy for a million less or whatever in Jan, but thats not gonna help if we go down. I like how you try and make a case for Pardew and use touting our players as a reason other managers might not come, he was the one touting them. Who has Pardew touted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Who has Pardew touted? Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiemonster Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Who has Pardew touted? Ba. I could be wrong, but the only quotes I remember from Pardew about Ba were along the lines of him hoping he stays and urging the fans to persuade him to stay. Everyone knew about the release clause thanks to Harry-fucking-Redknapp so it was only a matter of time before someone invoked it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Do you think they are already preparing for relegation? Wouldn't had signed Debuchy if we were tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Who has Pardew touted? Ba. I could be wrong, but the only quotes I remember from Pardew about Ba were along the lines of him hoping he stays and urging the fans to persuade him to stay. Everyone knew about the release clause thanks to Harry-fucking-Redknapp so it was only a matter of time before someone invoked it. You are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I could be wrong, but the only quotes I remember from Pardew about Ba were along the lines of him hoping he stays and urging the fans to persuade him to stay. Everyone knew about the release clause thanks to Harry-f***ing-Redknapp so it was only a matter of time before someone invoked it. I'm not going on about the clause again, it's been covered to death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think unless we win the Europa or have a storming second-half of the season, Pardew is finished here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think unless we win the Europa or have a storming second-half of the season, Pardew is finished here. No chance. All he has to do is stay up to guarantee himself at least another year. And arguably rightly so. Ignoring the actual football we play (the last thing I'd imagine Ashley cares about) we've had one average half a season, one great season and one shite season. As long as we don't go down, he deserves the right to see if the 5th was a complete fluke or if there's really something decent in there worth building on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think unless we win the Europa or have a storming second-half of the season, Pardew is finished here. No chance. All he has to do is stay up to guarantee himself at least another year. And arguably rightly so. Ignoring the actual football we play (the last thing I'd imagine Ashley cares about) we've had one average half a season, one great season and one s**** season. As long as we don't go down, he deserves the right to see if the 5th was a complete fluke or if there's really something decent in there worth building on. Agree with that Dave. Although I have to say I don't think some of AP's recent media comments will have been well received by Ashley and his posse, it is apparent (from his running of SD) that Ashley does give people he trusts a better than fair chance. But if it gets to the point when he has lost faith in them he doesn't bat an eyelid before getting rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 He might get away with stuttering to survival this season. I think if we're not competing the top 8 next season though, he's had it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 He might get away with stuttering to survival this season. I think if we're not competing the top 8 next season though, he's had it. i think if we just survive this season with the performances we are pulling out the summer might do for him IF ashleys finds a suitable (ie fits his criteria) replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 If we survive this season he won't be sacked and even then he might still not be sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Based on the results and performances this season he certainly deserves to be sacked. No idea what's going on in Ashley's mind or how secure he is but the drop-off in performances and results has been so dramatic that I'd expect A.N.Other club to have either fired him or be loading the bullet as we speak. Personally, I have no faith whatsoever that he can pull the situation around. He's totally mismanaged the team this season and the string of excuses he's reeled off has been embarrassing. He's negative beyond belief and I think some of the players have lost faith in him too (no basis to that, just a hunch). He can't fix this. We may well stay up this season but as long as he's running the team then the same problems will occur. He's dead man walking as far as I can see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 he's a total fraud of a manager as far as I'm concerned and a slimy,sneaky and common human being to boot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I can't think of another manager in the league who would still be in a job after the sort of run we've had recently. Even Fergie would be at home collecting his pension after a run of 7 points from the last 12 games (and a bonus arse kicking from a team 1 league below us in the cup). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I can't think of another manager in the league who would still be in a job after the sort of run we've had recently. Even Fergie would be at home collecting his pension after a run of 7 points from the last 12 games (and a bonus arse kicking from a team 1 league below us in the cup). didn't david moyes go through a similar after a good season. don't think many at everton were blaming him directly for mismanaging what he had at his disposal mind, neil may tell us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Based on the results and performances this season he certainly deserves to be sacked. No idea what's going on in Ashley's mind or how secure he is but the drop-off in performances and results has been so dramatic that I'd expect A.N.Other club to have either fired him or be loading the bullet as we speak. Personally, I have no faith whatsoever that he can pull the situation around. He's totally mismanaged the team this season and the string of excuses he's reeled off has been embarrassing. He's negative beyond belief and I think some of the players have lost faith in him too (no basis to that, just a hunch). He can't fix this. We may well stay up this season but as long as he's running the team then the same problems will occur. He's dead man walking as far as I can see. this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I can't think of another manager in the league who would still be in a job after the sort of run we've had recently. Even Fergie would be at home collecting his pension after a run of 7 points from the last 12 games (and a bonus arse kicking from a team 1 league below us in the cup). didn't david moyes go through a similar after a good season. don't think many at everton were blaming him directly for mismanaging what he had at his disposal mind, neil may tell us. We have 21 points after 22 games. Do you think that's anywhere near acceptable with what Pardew's had "at his disposal?" To help you, and for the avoidance of doubt and total waffle, here is every player in our squad with 1+ league appearance this season: Player Apps Tim Krul 18 Fabricio Coloccini 14 Davide Santon 22 Yohan Cabaye 9+1 Danny Simpson 15+1 Mike Williamson 17 Vurnon Anita 15+3 Papiss Cissé 19+1 Hatem Ben Arfa 13 James Perch 14+3 Ryan Taylor 0+1 Jonás Gutiérrez 18 Demba Ba 19+1 Gaël Bigirimana 3+8 Sylvain Marveaux 6+7 Shola Ameobi 3+11 Cheick Tioté 13+1 Gabriel Obertan 3+8 Mathieu Debuchy 1 Steven Taylor 10+1 Sammy Ameobi 1+7 Nile Ranger 0+2 Shane Ferguson 4+5 James Tavernier 0+2 Steve Harper 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Agree with all of the above. No faith whatsoever Pardew cam turn us around. He's chronically mismanaged a hugely talented squad of players to within a hairs breadth of the relegation zone, all the while playing some turgid football. The sooner he goes the better, for me. He's a fuckwit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 What happens when the new manager has a bad half a season? It's pretty obvious that just won't happen. If the team looks as clueless as it has all season I'll want him out as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I can't think of another manager in the league who would still be in a job after the sort of run we've had recently. Even Fergie would be at home collecting his pension after a run of 7 points from the last 12 games (and a bonus arse kicking from a team 1 league below us in the cup). didn't david moyes go through a similar after a good season. don't think many at everton were blaming him directly for mismanaging what he had at his disposal mind, neil may tell us. We have 21 points after 22 games. Do you think that's anywhere near acceptable with what Pardew's had "at his disposal?" To help you, and for the avoidance of doubt and total waffle, here is every player in our squad with 1+ league appearance this season: Player Apps Tim Krul 18 Fabricio Coloccini 14 Davide Santon 22 Yohan Cabaye 9+1 Danny Simpson 15+1 Mike Williamson 17 Vurnon Anita 15+3 Papiss Cissé 19+1 Hatem Ben Arfa 13 James Perch 14+3 Ryan Taylor 0+1 Jonás Gutiérrez 18 Demba Ba 19+1 Gaël Bigirimana 3+8 Sylvain Marveaux 6+7 Shola Ameobi 3+11 Cheick Tioté 13+1 Gabriel Obertan 3+8 Mathieu Debuchy 1 Steven Taylor 10+1 Sammy Ameobi 1+7 Nile Ranger 0+2 Shane Ferguson 4+5 James Tavernier 0+2 Steve Harper 4 thanks for re pointing out what i'd already said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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