Mick Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Yeah, probably the 'youth' part coming into it where everything seems more magical. Feel the same way about the Champions League. Certainly looked back at the early days of the Premier League, the names of the managers are very bland! Joe Royal, Trevor Francis, Howard Wilkinson.... The top managers that I remember in my lifetime in this country and in no particular order are: Ferguson Busby Wenger Mourinho Revie Clough Shankly Paisley Robson I may have missed a couple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Why shouldn't we be aiming to qualify for it when we came within one game of it last season and have since strengthened significantly? Look who we are up against. It's the managers making the difference, man for man I think we've got enough to challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Why shouldn't we be aiming to qualify for it when we came within one game of it last season and have since strengthened significantly? Look who we are up against. What, Spurs, Arsenal and Everton? We can't compete with them? Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Why shouldn't we be aiming to qualify for it when we came within one game of it last season and have since strengthened significantly? Look who we are up against. It's the managers making the difference, man for man I think we've got enough to challenge. I don't think that we have one of the top 4 squads in the league. Definitely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Why shouldn't we be aiming to qualify for it when we came within one game of it last season and have since strengthened significantly? Look who we are up against. It's the managers making the difference, man for man I think we've got enough to challenge. I don't think that we have one of the top 4 squads in the league. Definitely not. Challenge. Also, a better manager might off set that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Why shouldn't we be aiming to qualify for it when we came within one game of it last season and have since strengthened significantly? Look who we are up against. What, Spurs, Arsenal and Everton? We can't compete with them? Really? You've missed out Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea there. And possibly Liverpool. As I said earlier - at best, we have the 6th best squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 You've missed out Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea there. And possibly Liverpool. As I said earlier - at best, we have the 6th best squad. We're 9 places below that 6th place, we're 6th bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Hopefully, one day, we can hope to aspire to compete with Stoke and Fulham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I don't think anyone would attempt to argue that this season is good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 You've missed out Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea there. And possibly Liverpool. As I said earlier - at best, we have the 6th best squad. We're 9 places below that 6th place, we're 6th bottom. I think everyone is aware of that - we've all seen the league table. We've underperformed this season. I would have thought that it would be sensible to see how we get on next season. If he underperforms next season with this squad, I would have no qualms about moving Pardew on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 This squad only has 1 goal scorer. How many have Everton got? They're 6th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Why shouldn't we be aiming to qualify for it when we came within one game of it last season and have since strengthened significantly? Look who we are up against. What, Spurs, Arsenal and Everton? We can't compete with them? Really? Let's say we compete with those next season (I would include Liverpool as well who will no doubt outspend us again this summer), would you say there is enough quality and depth with our current squad to definitely finish above any of them? Would you be happy if we finished 8th but were half a dozen points off the highest placed team in that list? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Why shouldn't we be aiming to qualify for it when we came within one game of it last season and have since strengthened significantly? Look who we are up against. What, Spurs, Arsenal and Everton? We can't compete with them? Really? Let's say we compete with those next season (I would include Liverpool as well who will no doubt outspend us again this summer), would you say there is enough quality and depth with our current squad to definitely finish above any of them? Would you be happy if we finished 8th but were half a dozen points off the highest placed team in that list? That would be 'challenging' so one would assume yes..! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Completing is more fitting, atm we are completing with the performances of the bottom 10 teams, can't see how this could all change next season. At one Point we were playing QPR for the team with the worst performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Completing what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 The scary thing is, had we not went on that mad January spending spree, we would be looking at a very very realistic season of Championship football next season. He has to go, seriously. There is nothing remotely good about this NUFC team other than the individual talent of the players. We cannot defend, we cannot attack. We are tactically poor. Our set pieces are poor. We are average at home and shocking away from home. We cannot hold onto leads, we cannot win from behind, we are such a sorry mess of a team despite having a very good squad of players. We will not improve significantly next season, we will struggle again just as we are this season and that's because our manager is fucking clueless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 The scary thing is, had we not went on that mad January spending spree, we would be looking at a very very realistic season of Championship football next season. He has to go, seriously. There is nothing remotely good about this NUFC team other than the individual talent of the players. We cannot defend, we cannot attack. We are tactically poor. Our set pieces are poor. We are average at home and shocking away from home. We cannot hold onto leads, we cannot win from behind, we are such a sorry mess of a team despite having a very good squad of players. We will not improve significantly next season, we will struggle again just as we are this season and that's because our manager is fucking clueless. What's your point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Btw, our 'esteemed' manager in a talk-in right at the start of the season, actually said he was targeting a top 4 finish. We had the players he said. A few weeks into our Europa League campaign and we didn't even have the players for that according to him. He's a fucking fraud and I for one have not enjoyed any single aspect of this season which has been a a car wreck write-off from start to hopefully a soon finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I think everyone is aware of that - we've all seen the league table. We've underperformed this season. I would have thought that it would be sensible to see how we get on next season. If he underperforms next season with this squad, I would have no qualms about moving Pardew on. We've got no choice, unfortunately, I would personally rather not take that risk while understanding that we're almost certainly going to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 The scary thing is, had we not went on that mad January spending spree, we would be looking at a very very realistic season of Championship football next season. He has to go, seriously. There is nothing remotely good about this NUFC team other than the individual talent of the players. We cannot defend, we cannot attack. We are tactically poor. Our set pieces are poor. We are average at home and shocking away from home. We cannot hold onto leads, we cannot win from behind, we are such a sorry mess of a team despite having a very good squad of players. We will not improve significantly next season, we will struggle again just as we are this season and that's because our manager is f***ing clueless. What's your point? What's yours? Mine is patently fucking obvious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Why shouldn't we be aiming to qualify for it when we came within one game of it last season and have since strengthened significantly? Look who we are up against. What, Spurs, Arsenal and Everton? We can't compete with them? Really? Let's say we compete with those next season (I would include Liverpool as well who will no doubt outspend us again this summer), would you say there is enough quality and depth with our current squad to definitely finish above any of them? Would you be happy if we finished 8th but were half a dozen points off the highest placed team in that list? I don't think 8th is good enough so no. That's mid-table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Completing is more fitting, atm we are completing with the performances of the bottom 10 teams, can't see how this could all change next season. At one Point we were playing QPR for the team with the worst performances. If we are as healthy in all other positions of the pitch as we are in CM then we should do well. Cisse needs more competition/not all the goalscoring responsibility and players like Jonas & Williamson need to be true squad players. The amount of games they have played this season isn't good enough. Williamson must have played nearly as many as any centre back. I have been very disappointed with Tiote this season and for me his performances are entirely on him. Pardew showed a chink in his uber-defensive armour in the run in so I am fairly confident if we start well we will see a lot better football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 The scary thing is, had we not went on that mad January spending spree, we would be looking at a very very realistic season of Championship football next season. He has to go, seriously. There is nothing remotely good about this NUFC team other than the individual talent of the players. We cannot defend, we cannot attack. We are tactically poor. Our set pieces are poor. We are average at home and shocking away from home. We cannot hold onto leads, we cannot win from behind, we are such a sorry mess of a team despite having a very good squad of players. We will not improve significantly next season, we will struggle again just as we are this season and that's because our manager is f***ing clueless. What's your point? What's yours? Mine is patently fucking obvious thatsthejoke.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I am fairly confident if we start well we will see a lot better football. You actually believe we will start playing better football? Pardew has been here for over 2 seasons almost if you like and I can count perhaps maybe 10 games in which we have played what you would describe as good football, the rest has been awful long ball negative shit or scatty limp performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 The scary thing is, had we not went on that mad January spending spree, we would be looking at a very very realistic season of Championship football next season. He has to go, seriously. There is nothing remotely good about this NUFC team other than the individual talent of the players. We cannot defend, we cannot attack. We are tactically poor. Our set pieces are poor. We are average at home and shocking away from home. We cannot hold onto leads, we cannot win from behind, we are such a sorry mess of a team despite having a very good squad of players. We will not improve significantly next season, we will struggle again just as we are this season and that's because our manager is f***ing clueless. On the other hand, if we'd made those signings in the summer like we should have, I bet we'd have been a lot nearer the top 8 and Pardew wouldn't be under half as much pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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