mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 let's look at it this way, appointed december 2010 so 2 years and 3 months in that 2 years and 3 months if you sit aside the actual results, and i mean last seasons 5th and this seasons fuckfest, where has he actually taken us in that 2 years? what's his mark been on the playing side, what changes has he made to the way we played under his predecessor? let's consider that hughton was sacked because "an individual with more managerial experience [was] needed to take the club forward" in my opinion the only way we've moved forward in those 2 years when looked at overall is that pardew has been handed a some younger, more talented players than he inherited...if the club has moved forward in those 2 years it's mainly in terms of the quality of recruitment can anyone honestly say pardew has taken us forward in any way shape or form on the pitch? how much time is enough time? Between 10 games into the next season and christmas seems to be the new limit. this is what i don't understand, in 2 years he's not managed to stamp his authority on the quality of our play yet in the next 6-9 months he's definitely going to do that is he? on what are people basing this judgement? Once we get a RB in better than Simpson we'll play much better. Once we get a CB in better than Williamson we will play much better. Once we get rid of Ba and move Cisse central we will play much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 "Newcastle boss Alan Pardew says the Premier League remains his priority" Alan Pardew insists Newcastle's Europa League exploits will count for nothing if they are relegated from the Premier League. The Magpies are due to face Benfica in the first leg of their quarter-final clash on Thursday in a competition that has brought some solace to the Newcastle faithful in light of their disappointing domestic campaign. But Saturday's 4-0 defeat to Manchester City has left Pardew's side precariously close to the relegation zone and he admits the Premier League must be their priority. "We have done well in the Europa League, but it can't detract from the Premier League," he said. "We have to make sure we are safe. "We need two victories at least, and maybe a third or a fourth to get ourselves into a strong position." The drain on his players is clear for all to see, with Cheick Tiote and Davide Santon amongst the players to miss out through injury against City. "The Europa League is going to put us under pressure, because we are missing some big players at the moment," said Pardew. "But we didn't do ourselves any favours against City because we were not aggressive enough." Didn't he say the Europa League was our priority a couple of weeks ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Assuming we were in a safe league position, possibly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Pardew's words in the press should be ignored in all honesty. Stopped paying attention to his interviews many months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 "Newcastle boss Alan Pardew says the Premier League remains his priority" Alan Pardew insists Newcastle's Europa League exploits will count for nothing if they are relegated from the Premier League. The Magpies are due to face Benfica in the first leg of their quarter-final clash on Thursday in a competition that has brought some solace to the Newcastle faithful in light of their disappointing domestic campaign. But Saturday's 4-0 defeat to Manchester City has left Pardew's side precariously close to the relegation zone and he admits the Premier League must be their priority. "We have done well in the Europa League, but it can't detract from the Premier League," he said. "We have to make sure we are safe. "We need two victories at least, and maybe a third or a fourth to get ourselves into a strong position." The drain on his players is clear for all to see, with Cheick Tiote and Davide Santon amongst the players to miss out through injury against City. "The Europa League is going to put us under pressure, because we are missing some big players at the moment," said Pardew. "But we didn't do ourselves any favours against City because we were not aggressive enough." Didn't he say the Europa League was our priority a couple of weeks ago? Such a pity. I was excited at the prospect of prioritising the Europa League, cos it's another world to the domestic campaign and thought we had a genuine shot at winning it. I'm expecting the attitude towards the Benfica games being similar to the group stage ones, now - which is such a shame cos it's a proper glamour tie. Dunno if I can really argue with it now, seeing as we've played ourselves into trouble again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I don't listen to Pardew anymore. It's a load of contradictory bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Nothing wrong with those quotes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 FWIW there's no way I'd chop in Pardew for Di Canio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 FWIW there's no way I'd chop in Pardew for Di Canio. Actually, neither would I. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 It's time for Paolo... http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/resources/images/1811832/?type=articleLandscape Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Wouldn't be surprised if Ashley asked Pardew to prioritise his financial investment given our precarious league position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Wouldn't be surprised if Ashley asked Pardew to prioritise his financial investment given our precarious league position 'Try to actually win some away games you stupid fuck' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Why do we need to 'prioritise' anything? Can't we do both? Why can't the players cope with a couple extra games a month? We bombed out all the other cups so early that it's probably evened out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Would be hard to like Poyet giving how the c*** cost us the FA Cup under Bobby. You mean like the 2 goals KK scored against us in the FA Cup Final at Wembley in 74....!?? Somehow, everyone forgot about that...... No I don't mean like that, because it was 14 years before I was born. Hard to "forget" about something that you didn't see happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I don't listen to Pardew anymore. It's a load of contradictory bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 one win and a couple of draws should see us safe. Hopefully we get more than that though, with the games we have left we should be looking to try and remain unbeaten until the end of the season. As for sacking Pardew thats the easy part , Getting some one better may be a lot harder than most people think. I was asking this as well. No one answer except one suggesting someone from Lyon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/mar/20/fulham-martin-jol-contract If we tried to nab Jol then would we only have to pay a year's worth of his wages to Fulham? Not that we'd do it like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I do think Pardew should be credited for bringing in foreign players well and settling them down. Actually this is a lot more harder than what people think. Usually it's the manager who make a wishlist to the chairman and the scouts and get the players they want. It is the opposite here --- the scout make recommendations and the chairman makes decisions based on "bargain". The manager's opinion has the lowest priority. Imagine you are Pards, you are told to use the new players, even if you know that they actually don't fit in your own system or they simply not suited to EPL. Yes it is your job to do it, but most of the managers didn't have this problem. Pards do. If there is a good manager available I would agree Pards should be replaced to bring the team forward, but I don't think Pards is THAT bad as people suggest here. Bringing in new players, especially when it is not those the manager's asking for, is never an easy task. Luque (Spanish International) and Viana (Euro 21 Golden Boy) were both very good players, but we all knew what happened in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/mar/20/fulham-martin-jol-contract If we tried to nab Jol then would we only have to pay a year's worth of his wages to Fulham? Not that we'd do it like. Didn't Jol reject the job in the past or did i imagine that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/mar/20/fulham-martin-jol-contract If we tried to nab Jol then would we only have to pay a year's worth of his wages to Fulham? Not that we'd do it like. Didn't Jol reject the job in the past or did i imagine that? I think he left Ajax right when we sacked CH so it was assumed we were after him but of course that was never the plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Is Jol any good then? Always thought of him as solid, safe etc but nothing more. Wki says he's only won the KNVB Cup (in Holland) twice in over 600 games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I really like Jol based on what i seen him do for Spurs and Fulham. Spurs in particular as he's a massive reason why there are where they are today. But yeah he hasn't won very much, but as a coach i do rate him in terms of actual coaching and building teams. But honestly i could bring up a whole host of names i rate above Pardew so it doesn't really mean an awful lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I like him, he's proper cuddly and sound and I think he did a really good job at Spurs. Not doing badly at Fulham either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Not that it's hard to do like but I remember Jol outclassing Pardew tactically earlier on this season. Think that he would be a great appointment for us. Not that we would go for him mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Not that it's hard to do like but I remember Jol outclassing Pardew tactically earlier on this season. Think that he would be a great appointment for us. Not that we would go for him mind. Was funny how he'd clearly instructed his players to have a breather and let Simpson get on with it every time he was in possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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