cp40 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Will the people who predicted a big easy win have learned anything today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I've said it before but Ba's fitness is an absolute fucking disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Lucky to get a point. Bigi was our best player, Cisse the invisible man for the fourth game in a row. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Anita looks good and composed, Bigirimana (spelling, lol) also very decent. Poor shape, movement, lethargic. Very poor and plenty of work needed. Ah well the season's back proper now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Pardew will get his wish of Ba and Cisse playing poorly for Senegal... they are playing fucking turd for us so it won't be a surprise! - They will come good but it's so strange to see them both playing like they have never met. Both going for same balls and both fairly poor when on the ball. Our lack of ability from full back and winger to stick a decent cross in is killing us as well, regardless of how hard they work or what space they create. Pretty turd game to watch, glad a moment of Ben Arfa magic saved us from a defeat. Always got to pick up points at home but against a Villa side, you'd hope to get see your team get all three. Just feel with the players we have that we should have done better today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Early days but disappointing that we wasted the first 45 mins. villa wasted most of the second. should have been 18mins added imo. true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 So glad we got rid of Danny Guthrie, like. Yeah, he looks much prettier watching Pardew's long ball tactics pass him by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 ba and cisse are top players but they are the same, they make the same runs , take up same spaces, thats why im baffled why they both start all the time in a 4-4-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 If Cabaye doesn't want to be here or can't be arsed to put the hours in on the treadmill, then he can piss off tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 If there is a single positive, it would be that this result will hopefully lower some of the fans expectations a bit. tbh we have high expectations due to last season pity the board or manager dont want to build on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Actually a fantastic result considering how we played for the majority. Can't remember us ever being so utterly wasteful on set pieces and in crossing positions. Ridiculously bad. I hope that gives the players a massive kick up the arse, because we're nowhere near as good as we clearly think we are at present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Thank fuck we got away with a point from that. We are fucking diabolical, man. That was absolutely atrocious stuff. Our luck with those sort of performances will run out pretty soon. We just seemed to be so overrun in midfield, Villa always had an extra man- it was like that against Spurs and Chelsea, too. Our passing (or lack of it) is painful, horrendous. I'm not knee-jerking here but it was the same against Spurs and it seriously hindered us last season. We have technically brilliant players in our team, plus two of the best strikers in the league- with the ball at their feet- yet we just persist in launching it aimlessly up to our front men and give possession away time after time after time. Not good. Ah well, early doors yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 We really don't need our players going away on this international break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Dirge. Switch back to 4-3-3 please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Pardew will get his wish of Ba and Cisse playing poorly for Senegal... they are playing f***ing turd for us so it won't be a surprise! - They will come good but it's so strange to see them both playing like they have never met. Both going for same balls and both fairly poor when on the ball. Our lack of ability from full back and winger to stick a decent cross in is killing us as well, regardless of how hard they work or what space they create. Pretty turd game to watch, glad a moment of Ben Arfa magic saved us from a defeat. Always got to pick up points at home but against a Villa side, you'd hope to get see your team get all three. Just feel with the players we have that we should have done better today. from what i seen of them both at ACON last they were appalling, they both started in a 4-4-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 The 4-3-3 argument has been done to death but I'm really not sure how anyone can dispute its necessity. It's easy saying "it's not that simple blah blah blah" but once again we looked a lot better once we made the switch. We're setting up to not lose games then switching to 4-3-3 as a response if and when it goes tits up. That mentality's not acceptable to me with the players we have, especially at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Thank f*** we got away with a point from that. We are f***ing diabolical, man. That was absolutely atrocious stuff. Our luck with those sort of performances will run out pretty soon. We just seemed to be so overrun in midfield, Villa always had an extra man- it was like that against Spurs and Chelsea, too. Our passing (or lack of it) is painful, horrendous. I'm not knee-jerking here but it was the same against Spurs and it seriously hindered us last season. We have technically brilliant players in our team, plus two of the best strikers in the league- with the ball at their feet- yet we just persist in launching it aimlessly up to our front men and give possession away time after time after time. Not good. Ah well, early doors yet. Exactly. It isn´t like we have had a whole pre-season to work with, or the previous season. so we just have to stay calm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Two poor teams, one great goal, rubbish match. With the exception of Bigirimana, Anita (once he had gone to fullback) and Ben Arfa - but only in flashes - we look like we're still in preseason, everyone else is woefully off the pace. Other than Ba's goal, him and Cisse have contributed the some total of jack shit so far this season and the rest of our so-called better players are equally bad as well, Cabaye was shit today. Villa are a shit team and we're playing like a shit team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Don't know if it was shit crossing or shit movement in the box but it was so easily dealt with every time, wish we'd play it into the strikers feet more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Whilst he's a good striker, Demba Ba represents a problem. I think the 433 might have got an airing if Ba had been prepared to play wide instead of sulking. As soon as he started making noises about it not being his favourite position, we should have perhaps looked at a more flexible attacker to compliment Cisse because whilst they are great induviduals, the two Dembas are a bloody awful partnership. You would never guess they played for the same national team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 1 point against that shite just isn't on. made it way too easy for them. can't wait to hear pard's excuses. Bad points: Ba/Cisse shouldn't be on the same pitch if we're playing 4-4-2. The real Cabaye showed up on the 95 minute. Would have liked to have seen Obertan have another 5 mins running at their left back but that's what happens when you make subs so fucking late. Losing our '1st choice' right back Not one corner/set piece worked 5 games played so far this season and can't say we've played particularly well for any length of time. Good points: Thought Brigi and Anita had decent games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chala Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 All sides have off days, but let's be honest Spurs were the better side and we could have easily lost that game. We were ok second half against Chelsea, but poor first half and today apart for about 10 minutes after we scored we were pathetic. 1) Krul stop fucking lumping it all the time, try playing the ball out from the back for a change! 2) Cabaye your playing in the centre, stop chasing down lost causes all over the place causing us to lose shape and get overan in the middle. 3) Cisse, put some effort in! He doesn't look bothered at the moment and why did we let Best and Lovenkrands go and not bring in any other striker?? Ok, so Lovenkrands didn't play much but at least he was an option. And if Best was still here, he'd be starting for me for definate next week. We all know Shola is injury prone and we are clearly short of options if Ba and Cisse are off form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I normally hate them, but this international break is welcome. We look unfit and disorganized. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I think some players have been believing their own hype from last season, I think Cisse and Cabaye could do with being dropped, we need Tiote back for Everton though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I haven't seen Cissé this season, needs a goas and soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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