Beren Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Speaking of, Tom Ince isn't a bad shout for this thread. Bit of a twist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Speaking of, Tom Ince isn't a bad shout for this thread. Bit of a twist. Bit young no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 how about David Edgar? The player Steven Taylor could have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Keane had so many issues and by the end Fergie realised he was not worth the hassle and binned him. Great in his pomp, even though I think Vieira had the slight edge. Whilst Vieira was a hard tackler, Keane had an undoubted nasty streak in him. His self confessed assault on Haaland should have seen him charged, utterly cowardly. Aye, Vieira was the better all-rounder. Mind, I think Yaya Toure is even better than those two as a box to box midfielder. I'd have Roy Keane in my side over those two. Aye me too, his leadership skills, will to win and drive more than make up for anything he lacks in ability that those two had over him. Not sure where all the Keane is cowardly talk is coming from really. That's the last thing he was, and while he probably would have got his head kicked in, he certainly wasn't scared of Shearer. Shearer and Vieira were bigger guys than Keane and he got right in their faces and gave them s***. Cuntish yeah, cowardly, no. Even though she should have been more professional, especially under the cameras, one of my favourite non-playing memories of Keane was when Vieira was giving Neville s*** in the tunnel and Keane in no uncertain terms told him to f*** off and pick on someone his own size. While opposing fans may hate him and condemn him, it's fantastic to have guys like him on your team simply for his combative attitude, never mind his world class ability. I agree with most of what you wrote, but I'm sorry, Keane was a coward as all bullies are really, which is what he kind of was. Shearer wasn't that much bigger than him in terms of height by the way, although our man was much stockier. Imagine those two in the same side something which could of materialised at Newcastle believe it or not as Keegan tried to buy Keane while he was at Forest but we were a then second tier club not even certain of promotion and you guys were on the verge of becoming a major force in the top-flight once again. Parky, you mention Keane as an enforcer, I don't even think he was that kind of player myself. I reckon Batty was more of an enforcer type who tried to stop the opposition first and foremost. Keane always set out to drive his team forwards from midfield in an attacking sense more than anything, although the man could enforce as you put it. Overall, he was just an all-rounder of a central-midfielder whose game was box to box and everything that entailed. We'll probably never see the like again. I don't know who mentioned Brian Robson but older generation fans reckon he along with Souness were the ultimate in central midfielders, players who they would rank ahead of say Keane and Gerrard. It would be interesting to hear the thoughts of those who saw the likes of Robson and Souness play and how they'd compare to your Keane's and Gerrard's like. So err, Mick..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Speaking of, Tom Ince isn't a bad shout for this thread. Bit of a twist. How about no, you lazy eyed psycho! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Never knew NUFC tried to sign Keane. Learn something new every day. I'm well aware of us trying to sign Shearer though, numerous times. Commendable loyalty, but man I would have loved Alan Shearer at us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Never knew NUFC tried to sign Keane. Learn something new every day. I'm well aware of us trying to sign Shearer though, numerous times. Commendable loyalty, but man I would have loved Alan Shearer at us. Who knows what would've happened if you'd signed him instead of us in the summer of '96. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Cole and Shearer up front. Not a bad partnership. We wouldn't have signed Sheringham or Solskjaer then, with the latter being my favourite player, so in a (very) small way I'm happy we didn't sign get Shearer... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 In a small way I wish you had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I wouldn't say that Keane was an example of Fergie's judgement at its finest. He'd already established himself as the best box to box midfielder in the country, and the fee reflected that. The big gamble was Cantona, who had failed to make an impact in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Eh? He'd been pretty decent at Leeds tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 £1.2m. Thanks very much Howard Wilkinson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I wouldn't say that Keane was an example of Fergie's judgement at its finest. He'd already established himself as the best box to box midfielder in the country, and the fee reflected that. The big gamble was Cantona, who had failed to make an impact in England. He basically helped Leeds to the title in 91/92. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I wouldn't say that Keane was an example of Fergie's judgement at its finest. He'd already established himself as the best box to box midfielder in the country, and the fee reflected that. The big gamble was Cantona, who had failed to make an impact in England. He basically helped Leeds to the title in 91/92. So why did they let him go for £1.2m to their big rivals? IIRC Cantona had failed to nail down a regular starting place at Leeds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Wasn't there rumours of him nailing Leslie Ash? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I wouldn't say that Keane was an example of Fergie's judgement at its finest. He'd already established himself as the best box to box midfielder in the country, and the fee reflected that. The big gamble was Cantona, who had failed to make an impact in England. He basically helped Leeds to the title in 91/92. So why did they let him go for £1.2m to their big rivals? IIRC Cantona had failed to nail down a regular starting place at Leeds. Because Howard Wilkinson is an idiot and they had personality clash so Wilkinson dropped him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 In a small way I wish you had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 In a small way I wish you had. This Ludicrous from Ronaldo, what was the better alternative for NUFC may I ask? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Ronaldo gets some bites when he mentions Shearer like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Never knew NUFC tried to sign Keane. Learn something new every day. I'm well aware of us trying to sign Shearer though, numerous times. Commendable loyalty, but man I would have loved Alan Shearer at us. We ended up with Rob Lee so all wasn't too bad as he was a fucking star for us. KK wanted Keane to be our box to box midfielder. I'm sure he once said one of his biggest regrets as NUFC manager when it comes to signing players was not getting to chat with Keane as he reckons he would have convinced him to come here. Mind, he also said the same about Henry who we were after, him and Pires, apparently. Back then it was hard to believe anything. We once sent a team over to Juventus, true story, to buy Baggio, on KK's orders. Fletcher, Shepherd and Douglass Hall all went over I think to try and pull off what would have been a major coup. Juventus' people kept them waiting in some room while they pissed themselves laughing. We came home empty handed Those were exciting days mind because with KK in the form he was, he could have talked anyone into joining us. He convinced Rob Lee we were closer to London than Middlesbrough, told SJH that Beardsley was only 30 and not 32 and that if we didn't buy him the mackems would, and of course he sweet talked 1000 plus angry Geordies into accepting the sale of Cole to your lot. I don't think Cole and Shearer would have worked mind, not the Shearer we bought. Now Sheringham and Shearer... bingo! And Ronaldo... you can't be serious! What next, you sometimes wish we had of kept Ardilles and not appointed KK or how about Quinn over Cole?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 In a small way I wish you had. This Ludicrous from Ronaldo, what was the better alternative for NUFC may I ask? Who knows? But we went from challenging to not challenging. Obviouly Shearer is the 2nd best player I've seen in our colours, but part of me wishes we'd bought a striker and a CB with the £15m. We may have won the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 What next, you sometimes wish we had of kept Ardilles and not appointed KK or how about Quinn over Cole?! We progressed (massively) with the above, it's not the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Never knew NUFC tried to sign Keane. Learn something new every day. I'm well aware of us trying to sign Shearer though, numerous times. Commendable loyalty, but man I would have loved Alan Shearer at us. We ended up with Rob Lee so all wasn't too bad as he was a fucking star for us. KK wanted Keane to be our box to box midfielder. I'm sure he once said one of his biggest regrets as NUFC manager when it comes to signing players was not getting to chat with Keane as he reckons he would have convinced him to come here. Mind, he also said the same about Henry who we were after, him and Pires, apparently. Back then it was hard to believe anything. We once sent a team over to Juventus, true story, to buy Baggio, on KK's orders. Fletcher, Shepherd and Douglass Hall all went over I think to try and pull off what would have been a major coup. Juventus' people kept them waiting in some room while they pissed themselves laughing. We came home empty handed Those were exciting days mind because with KK in the form he was, he could have talked anyone into joining us. He convinced Rob Lee we were closer to London than Middlesbrough, told SJH that Beardsley was only 30 and not 32 and that if we didn't buy him the mackems would, and of course he sweet talked 1000 plus angry Geordies into accepting the sale of Cole to your lot. I don't think Cole and Shearer would have worked mind, not the Shearer we bought. Now Sheringham and Shearer... bingo! And Ronaldo... you can't be serious! What next, you sometimes wish we had of kept Ardilles and not appointed KK or how about Quinn over Cole?! They took the owner of The Godfather restaurant over to Italy with them to help with the language. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Thanks Beren for heeding my thoughts. Roy Keane... I must admit I wasn't aware of how good he was until 1998 or 1999. Before then I thought he was back up to Nicky Butt. But then again I was 13 at the time. Since then he has established himself as a top player in my mind, the real leader of Man Utd on the pitch and there is no doubt that they miss him still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Thanks Beren for heeding my thoughts. Roy Keane... I must admit I wasn't aware of how good he was until 1998 or 1999. Before then I thought he was back up to Nicky Butt. But then again I was 13 at the time. Since then he has established himself as a top player in my mind, the real leader of Man Utd on the pitch and there is no doubt that they miss him still. I was about the same age, how the hell did you manage that man FFS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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