ExiledGeordie Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Ridiculous thread at the end of the day. Knee-jerk nonsense and totally unrealistic given Ashley wouldn't give any new manager money to spend anyway thereby limiting who he'd physically be able to bring in or who'd want to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 What Pardew needs is tons of money to buy player. We are in danger of going into a terrible relegation battle and need to invest heavily. January should be seen as our summer and we will need a new fresh start from there on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Ridiculous thread at the end of the day. Knee-jerk nonsense and totally unrealistic given Ashley wouldn't give any new manager money to spend anyway thereby limiting who he'd physically be able to bring in or who'd want to come. What's knee jerk after 14 games? Our performances before these 4 defeats were terrible and masking up results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 He needs f***ing backing not sacking, utterly ridiculous to even think about sacking him. Would be stupid at a club that could attract a top manager but the thought of Pardew going and MA having to choose a new manager scares the s*** out of me, way more scary than Pardew staying. Yes. For now, at least, the faith needs to be kept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Ok so apart from naming someone you think might come in and do a job, do you have any faith in Ashley appointing someone decent??? Secondly despite his recent errors don't you think that a great proportion of the reason we're in this situation can be attributed to a tight fisted chairman who won't recruit players. Pardew deserves criticism but everyone knew we needed strenthening in the summer and everyone has known for a while that the likes of Simpson, Williamson and others simply aren't up to the job. I'd like to see what some of the names people are throwing about on here could do with this current squad and basically zero transfer policy. People need to look at the bigger picture ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Im sure Martinez or Jol would play in a way that suits our players and give them some freedom to express themselves in a game. Not that i can see it happening anyway, just a couple of names that me personally wouldn't mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 They definitely would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Nobody worth having would come to work under Ashley. The only ones would be lower league managers and there's no way Ashley would go to the trouble to sack Pardew only to replace him with someone unproven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 The bigger picture is we deep in the shit and are in a relegation battle for rest of the season as things stand. Pardew said he was grateful for Ashley for keeping the squad together. Now he needs £20m according to some to get us out of the mire, itfhe needs that then he's made a god awful mess with the squad he was happy with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Im sure Martinez or Jol would play in a way that suits our players and give them some freedom to express themselves in a game. Not that i can see it happening anyway, just a couple of names that me personally wouldn't mind. I'm with you 100% in the way they could get us playing, both very good managers but like you say it's just not going to happen is it. Plus they'd look at our current transfer strategy and say no thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Im sure Martinez or Jol would play in a way that suits our players and give them some freedom to express themselves in a game. Not that i can see it happening anyway, just a couple of names that me personally wouldn't mind. I'm with you 100% in the way they could get us playing, both very good managers but like you say it's just not going to happen is it. Plus they'd look at our current transfer strategy and say no thanks. True, just answered to your earlier post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I really like the way Martinez conducts himself too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 If AP was sacked we would probably be looking at a Beardsley/Carver dream team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 He needs fucking backing not sacking, utterly ridiculous to even think about sacking him. Would be stupid at a club that could attract a top manager but the thought of Pardew going and MA having to choose a new manager scares the shit out of me, way more scary than Pardew staying. Let's not make any bones about it, Pardew hasn't got a clue as a manager. But you're right, there's no point in sacking him becuase Ashley and Llambias have no idea how to make a proper appointment so why bother? Just keep buying well and hope that Pardew doesn't sabotage the team with his inept tactics. At this point I seriously believe we'd be better off if he just put 11 players out there and let them work things out themselves. Pardew can concentrate on looking good for the cameras and giving nice interviews. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 He needs f***ing backing not sacking, utterly ridiculous to even think about sacking him. Would be stupid at a club that could attract a top manager but the thought of Pardew going and MA having to choose a new manager scares the s*** out of me, way more scary than Pardew staying. Yes. For now, at least, the faith needs to be kept. I'm with you lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 If AP was sacked we would probably be looking at a Beardsley/Carver dream team. Any new manager would have to work with the current coaching staff instead of getting their own in. Unless the likes of Carver, Woodman and Stone walks with Pardew, I doubt the new guy will be able to get to spend Fat Mike's money on stafffing additions. Any potential manager will have to negotiate that, minimal transfer funds and low comparative wages. Doubt we can attract any decent/better managers on such terms. To Ashley, he has hit the jackpot with Pardew, someone willing to work on his terms and had exceeded expectations last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Glass Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Zico just quit as coach of Iraq. He'd be awesome I reckon, but like previous posts have said, he'd have to be happy working with MA and, more likely than not, the current group of coaching/backroom staff. From his wiki page (relating to when Keegan walked): On 8 September 2008, Zico revealed that he would be interested taking over the vacant managers position at Newcastle United following the resignation of Kevin Keegan. He is quoted saying "The Newcastle job is one that I would be very interested in taking. It would be a privilege and an honour, I've always wanted to experience the Premier League as I believe I could enjoy much success coaching in England." He also commented that he isn't bothered about the structure of the board at Newcastle United, "I am used to working alongside technical directors so this isn't an issue for me. It's normal for me to work in those conditions." Don't think he had a very good time at Olympiacos, getting sacked after threats of violence from fans (just taken from the wiki article). Not sure of the details on that one. The article also suggests that he is sporting director of Flamengo, although I think that might not be true...? <edit: he quit that role after 4 months - GREEN LIGHT MIKE> Anyway, I can but dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 We need the structure to stick together for a while longer. If we're sitting ducks in January, the Pardew out campaign will be in full flow. However, we know the circumstances, we know that loud discontent will only create more fractions and divide the club at a time when we can't really afford that. Ashley will never bow to the fans' opinion. He will stick with Pardew. We'll do best to stick with him as well. He should be able to turn things around with the players he has at his disposal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 If we were to sack Pardew (and I don't think we should) - this is the guy we should go for... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragan_Stojkovi%C4%87 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I think we'll ask Carr to recommend some French manager should we sack Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I think we'll ask Carr to recommend some French manager should we sack Pardew. Missed the boat with Arry Redknapp, a % of players sale sin his contract...thats tight up his cheeky cockney pipe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I think we'll ask Carr to recommend some French manager should we sack Pardew. Missed the boat with Arry Redknapp, a % of players sale sin his contract...thats tight up his cheeky cockney pipe. Good god. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I think we'll ask Carr to recommend some French manager should we sack Pardew. Missed the boat with Arry Redknapp, a % of players sale sin his contract...thats tight up his cheeky cockney pipe. Good god. It's got to fit in between all the journos tongues tbf, even a single paper sheet contract would be tight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 He needs f***ing backing not sacking, utterly ridiculous to even think about sacking him. Would be stupid at a club that could attract a top manager but the thought of Pardew going and MA having to choose a new manager scares the s*** out of me, way more scary than Pardew staying. Yes. For now, at least, the faith needs to be kept. I'm with you lads. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/666/_57c8a1a431a592af806925e57258202f.png I'm afraid that a win against Wigan will only prolong this charlatan and give him longer to do irreversible damage. Don't win, don't stay imo. Lost 4 winnable games in a row so beating Wigan is now vital, whereas a draw would have been the absolute minimum a few weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 This forum sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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