Pardew Out?

[dinotheprehistoricgeordie]

He deserves at least this season to turn it around. Firing your manager at the first sign of trouble is stupid. Saying that, I really hope he manages to get us playing again. We really are terrible to watch.

 

Even if we go down with Pardew as the captain of the ship? 

 

I seriously doubt that will happen. QPR are in serious trouble already and Reading can't seem to keep a clean sheet. We are going through the first rough patch of Pardew's time here, people need to calm down a bit and trust that the players we have will see us through this dip. Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy with the man in charge. The football we've had since he's been in charge has been so, so boring. Barring a few wondergoals the only game I enjoyed watching for any sustained period of time last year was West Brom away. That was only for one half mind. Give him the season and then hope if he hasn't got the team playing or that our owner has someone better lined up. After giving this manager an 8 year deal

[OzzieMandias]

Looks like the changing-your-manager-before-Christmas thing is going well at Chelsea.

[Interpolic]

Such comparable situations, bore off.

 

I don't even want Pardew sacked (yet), you're just terribly tedious.

[Pilko]

Looks like the changing-your-manager-before-Christmas thing is going well at Chelsea.

 

I'm sick and tired of Pardew and yet I still can't agree with that. Chalk and cheese, as scenarios.

[madras]

so if chelsea had won their last couple of games it means we should've sacked pardew ?

[Dave]

[samag]

lots of time to turn the season around, not sure we could get anyone better than Pardew at the moment ,

[Beren]

Where did everton finish that year under moyes? The one where they kept faith with him despite being in trouble? They did that as they thought he was the right man. Ashley  thinks pards is the right man.  that's the bigger picture.

 

We've got 14 points from 14 games and we've had a relatively easy run of games.  We're struggling after playing games which we needed to win and we're looking at games which our current form over the last 6 games is the 2nd worst in the league.  We are about to face a series of games where we'll be lucky to come out of with anything like a reasonable goal difference never mind points total.

 

Of our 14 games played we’ve faced Chelsea and Man U away, apart from that we should be able to expect to get something from the others.  We’ve vastly under-performed so often that we have no right to expect anything positive from any team either at home or away.

 

How Everton performed under Moyes at any time is irrelevant to our current position.

 

You're thinking of the League Cup maybe? The league fixture was at home.

[Mick]

 

 

You're thinking of the League Cup maybe? The league fixture was at home.

 

I was thinking about the home league game, it feels like it was years ago now at it was only about 8 weeks ago.

[Rebellious]

Where did everton finish that year under moyes? The one where they kept faith with him despite being in trouble? They did that as they thought he was the right man. Ashley  thinks pards is the right man.  that's the bigger picture.

 

We've got 14 points from 14 games and we've had a relatively easy run of games.  We're struggling after playing games which we needed to win and we're looking at games which our current form over the last 6 games is the 2nd worst in the league.  We are about to face a series of games where we'll be lucky to come out of with anything like a reasonable goal difference never mind points total.

 

Of our 14 games played we’ve faced Chelsea and Man U away, apart from that we should be able to expect to get something from the others.  We’ve vastly under-performed so often that we have no right to expect anything positive from any team either at home or away.

 

How Everton performed under Moyes at any time is irrelevant to our current position.

 

Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost.  2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men.  Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments.

[loki679]

Where did everton finish that year under moyes? The one where they kept faith with him despite being in trouble? They did that as they thought he was the right man. Ashley  thinks pards is the right man.  that's the bigger picture.

 

We've got 14 points from 14 games and we've had a relatively easy run of games.  We're struggling after playing games which we needed to win and we're looking at games which our current form over the last 6 games is the 2nd worst in the league.  We are about to face a series of games where we'll be lucky to come out of with anything like a reasonable goal difference never mind points total.

 

Of our 14 games played we’ve faced Chelsea and Man U away, apart from that we should be able to expect to get something from the others.  We’ve vastly under-performed so often that we have no right to expect anything positive from any team either at home or away.

 

How Everton performed under Moyes at any time is irrelevant to our current position.

 

Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost.  2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men.  Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments.

 

So have those teams overtaken us now?  Their squads don't seem any better than ours so why are we consistently losing to them?

[Mick]

 

 

Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost.  2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men.  Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments.

 

Aye, right.  We've only been disappointing twice this season. 

[David28]

:lol:

[Guest neesy111]

 

 

Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost.  2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men.  Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments.

 

Aye, right.  We've only been disappointing twice this season. 

 

I was going to say this.

 

It's probably the other way round we've only be good 2-3 games.

[Dr Venkman]

It's probably about 100 minutes in total when you add it up, I can offer 20 in the derby.

[Dave]

Alan Pardew's side will aim to avoid a third successive league loss on home soil, something that Newcastle fans have only endured once during the Premier League era - in the 2008/09 relegation season (against Manchester United, Arsenal and Chelsea).

 

And were the Magpies allow Wigan to record a first-ever victory at SJP, they would also have set the unwanted record of losing five successive Premier League games for the first time.

 

No pressure then. Slightly better opposition last time btw.

[Rebellious]

Where did everton finish that year under moyes? The one where they kept faith with him despite being in trouble? They did that as they thought he was the right man. Ashley  thinks pards is the right man.  that's the bigger picture.

 

We've got 14 points from 14 games and we've had a relatively easy run of games.  We're struggling after playing games which we needed to win and we're looking at games which our current form over the last 6 games is the 2nd worst in the league.  We are about to face a series of games where we'll be lucky to come out of with anything like a reasonable goal difference never mind points total.

 

Of our 14 games played we’ve faced Chelsea and Man U away, apart from that we should be able to expect to get something from the others.  We’ve vastly under-performed so often that we have no right to expect anything positive from any team either at home or away.

 

How Everton performed under Moyes at any time is irrelevant to our current position.

 

Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost.  2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men.  Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments.

 

So have those teams overtaken us now?  Their squads don't seem any better than ours so why are we consistently losing to them?

 

I really don`t know the answer to that other than games are not played on paper ?  The same reason Arsenal lost to Swansea or Chelsea lost to West Brom or Man City only getting a draw at home to Everton. There are too many varibles to place all the blame on Pardews Tactics.  West Broms sqaud do not look like a 5th place team and Arsenals squad do not look like a tenth place team. Is Wengers tactics to blame, should he get sacked ?

[Rebellious]

 

 

Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost.  2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men.  Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments.

 

Aye, right.  We've only been disappointing twice this season. 

 

I thought this was the Pardew out thread ? I can`t see how Pardew is to blame for Krul making game changing errors, surely that would be down to him or the goal keeping coach ? Williamson being twice as shit as last year if that is possible, Pardew does not control the finances, surely that is Ashleys fault ? Cabaye playing with a groin propblem, did Pardew kick him in it ? Colo getting injured and then after that getting a red ? Pardew again ? Toite for the past few seasons has needed a run of 4-5 games to start performing, hes been injured and suspended. Cisse can`t score without pin point service, without Toite and Cabaye on top form that hasn`t happened. I could go on and on. I just don`t see it as simple as Pardew needs replacing.  I see it as a crap summer transfer window, some shit individual errors, bad concentration and a bit of bad luck.

[Darth Crooks]

 

 

Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost.  2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men.  Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments.

 

Aye, right.  We've only been disappointing twice this season. 

 

I thought this was the Pardew out thread ? I can`t see how Pardew is to blame for Krul making game changing errors, surely that would be down to him or the goal keeping coach ? Williamson being twice as shit as last year if that is possible, Pardew does not control the finances, surely that is Ashleys fault ? Cabaye playing with a groin propblem, did Pardew kick him in it ? Colo getting injured and then after that getting a red ? Pardew again ? Toite for the past few seasons has needed a run of 4-5 games to start performing, hes been injured and suspended. Cisse can`t score without pin point service, without Toite and Cabaye on top form that hasn`t happened. I could go on and on. I just don`t see it as simple as Pardew needs replacing.  I see it as a crap summer transfer window, some shit individual errors, bad concentration and a bit of bad luck.

 

Pardew can't be absolved as much as I agree with the comments on investment (A main and major source of our decline) and the role of individuals. Our squad as a whole is capable of producing better; more than a handful of our players have dwindled this season and Pardew and tactics need to be held culpable to a clear degree.

[Mick]

 

 

I thought this was the Pardew out thread ? I can`t see how Pardew is to blame for Krul making game changing errors, surely that would be down to him or the goal keeping coach ? Williamson being twice as s*** as last year if that is possible, Pardew does not control the finances, surely that is Ashleys fault ? Cabaye playing with a groin propblem, did Pardew kick him in it ? Colo getting injured and then after that getting a red ? Pardew again ? Toite for the past few seasons has needed a run of 4-5 games to start performing, hes been injured and suspended. Cisse can`t score without pin point service, without Toite and Cabaye on top form that hasn`t happened. I could go on and on. I just don`t see it as simple as Pardew needs replacing.  I see it as a crap summer transfer window, some s*** individual errors, bad concentration and a bit of bad luck.

 

All of our problems are not down to Pardew, I doubt that many think that they are. 

 

For me he is the main reason we're struggling.  If we lose on Monday then I can’t see past him having to go because our league status is more important than he is. 

 

I don’t think Pardew has got us playing to the players strengths and as far as I’m concerned that’s the main reason we are where we are.  If players are holding us back then they shouldn't be playing.  If Pardew can’t see and change what’s wrong then he should go.

[Ikon]

We have 9 players missing, yes! Only 3 of them would start though!! Pardew keeps babbling

[loki679]

Where did everton finish that year under moyes? The one where they kept faith with him despite being in trouble? They did that as they thought he was the right man. Ashley  thinks pards is the right man.  that's the bigger picture.

 

We've got 14 points from 14 games and we've had a relatively easy run of games.  We're struggling after playing games which we needed to win and we're looking at games which our current form over the last 6 games is the 2nd worst in the league.  We are about to face a series of games where we'll be lucky to come out of with anything like a reasonable goal difference never mind points total.

 

Of our 14 games played we’ve faced Chelsea and Man U away, apart from that we should be able to expect to get something from the others.  We’ve vastly under-performed so often that we have no right to expect anything positive from any team either at home or away.

 

How Everton performed under Moyes at any time is irrelevant to our current position.

 

Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost.  2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men.  Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments.

 

So have those teams overtaken us now?  Their squads don't seem any better than ours so why are we consistently losing to them?

 

I really don`t know the answer to that other than games are not played on paper ?  The same reason Arsenal lost to Swansea or Chelsea lost to West Brom or Man City only getting a draw at home to Everton. There are too many varibles to place all the blame on Pardews Tactics.  West Broms sqaud do not look like a 5th place team and Arsenals squad do not look like a tenth place team. Is Wengers tactics to blame, should he get sacked ?

 

There are plenty of Arsenal fans who are saying so.

 

City and Chelsea having a blip can't seriously be compared to losing 4 games in a row against some of the supposed weaker teams in the division.  West Brom, Swansea, West Ham, Norwich.  Four teams with squads weaker than ours who are outperforming us at the current time.

[Rebellious]

Where did everton finish that year under moyes? The one where they kept faith with him despite being in trouble? They did that as they thought he was the right man. Ashley  thinks pards is the right man.  that's the bigger picture.

 

We've got 14 points from 14 games and we've had a relatively easy run of games.  We're struggling after playing games which we needed to win and we're looking at games which our current form over the last 6 games is the 2nd worst in the league.  We are about to face a series of games where we'll be lucky to come out of with anything like a reasonable goal difference never mind points total.

 

Of our 14 games played we’ve faced Chelsea and Man U away, apart from that we should be able to expect to get something from the others.  We’ve vastly under-performed so often that we have no right to expect anything positive from any team either at home or away.

 

How Everton performed under Moyes at any time is irrelevant to our current position.

 

Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost.  2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men.  Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments.

 

So have those teams overtaken us now?  Their squads don't seem any better than ours so why are we consistently losing to them?

 

I really don`t know the answer to that other than games are not played on paper ?  The same reason Arsenal lost to Swansea or Chelsea lost to West Brom or Man City only getting a draw at home to Everton. There are too many varibles to place all the blame on Pardews Tactics.  West Broms sqaud do not look like a 5th place team and Arsenals squad do not look like a tenth place team. Is Wengers tactics to blame, should he get sacked ?

 

There are plenty of Arsenal fans who are saying so.

 

City and Chelsea having a blip can't seriously be compared to losing 4 games in a row against some of the supposed weaker teams in the division.  West Brom, Swansea, West Ham, Norwich.  Four teams with squads weaker than ours who are outperforming us at the current time.

 

Could it be our bad form this season has coincided with these so called weaker squads having a good run of form. Swansea beating Arsenal shortly after beating us. West Ham beat Chelsea shortly after beating us. West Brom have had a good season anyway.

[loki679]

Where did everton finish that year under moyes? The one where they kept faith with him despite being in trouble? They did that as they thought he was the right man. Ashley  thinks pards is the right man.  that's the bigger picture.

 

We've got 14 points from 14 games and we've had a relatively easy run of games.  We're struggling after playing games which we needed to win and we're looking at games which our current form over the last 6 games is the 2nd worst in the league.  We are about to face a series of games where we'll be lucky to come out of with anything like a reasonable goal difference never mind points total.

 

Of our 14 games played we’ve faced Chelsea and Man U away, apart from that we should be able to expect to get something from the others.  We’ve vastly under-performed so often that we have no right to expect anything positive from any team either at home or away.

 

How Everton performed under Moyes at any time is irrelevant to our current position.

 

Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost.  2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men.  Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments.

 

So have those teams overtaken us now?  Their squads don't seem any better than ours so why are we consistently losing to them?

 

I really don`t know the answer to that other than games are not played on paper ?  The same reason Arsenal lost to Swansea or Chelsea lost to West Brom or Man City only getting a draw at home to Everton. There are too many varibles to place all the blame on Pardews Tactics.  West Broms sqaud do not look like a 5th place team and Arsenals squad do not look like a tenth place team. Is Wengers tactics to blame, should he get sacked ?

 

There are plenty of Arsenal fans who are saying so.

 

City and Chelsea having a blip can't seriously be compared to losing 4 games in a row against some of the supposed weaker teams in the division.  West Brom, Swansea, West Ham, Norwich.  Four teams with squads weaker than ours who are outperforming us at the current time.

 

Could it be our bad form this season has coincided with these so called weaker squads having a good run of form. Swansea beating Arsenal shortly after beating us. West Ham beat Chelsea shortly after beating us. West Brom have had a good season anyway.

 

Possibly but we're 15 games into the season now, things are generally shaping up by this point.  Swansea and West Brom have had good seasons and they've been playing good football along with it.  Norwich are scrapping out results for the most part and getting draws instead of what should be defeats  and West Ham are based on a fairly solid defence.

 

We've played 14 games so far and I can't remember many good ones, if any.  Maybe 90 minutes of decent football in 14 games, that's not bad form in my opinion, thats something else.

[Guest bimpy474]

Our bad form is down to poor tactics and playing in no way to the strengths of our players.

 

If Pardew looks at our squad and thinks hoofball is what suits them best, he is fucking mental. Absolutely mental.