mofo Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Probably been asked a thousand times, BUT if we got rid of Pard's who would we end up with?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Probably been asked a thousand times, BUT if we got rid of Pard's who would we end up with?? Dunno what kind of prick Ashley would hire, but if our rot continues for too long i'd rather see us try something, whatever that might be. When there's a fire in a 15 floor building, people don't jump out down from it because it's fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Where did everton finish that year under moyes? The one where they kept faith with him despite being in trouble? They did that as they thought he was the right man. Ashley thinks pards is the right man. that's the bigger picture. We've got 14 points from 14 games and we've had a relatively easy run of games. We're struggling after playing games which we needed to win and we're looking at games which our current form over the last 6 games is the 2nd worst in the league. We are about to face a series of games where we'll be lucky to come out of with anything like a reasonable goal difference never mind points total. Of our 14 games played we’ve faced Chelsea and Man U away, apart from that we should be able to expect to get something from the others. We’ve vastly under-performed so often that we have no right to expect anything positive from any team either at home or away. How Everton performed under Moyes at any time is irrelevant to our current position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Probably been asked a thousand times, BUT if we got rid of Pard's who would we end up with?? Who can answer that question? None of us, we can come up with names and it would be pointless as none of us have any say in the matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Seems most would rather lose our best players than the manager, which I just find thoroughly bizarre. Cabaye, Ba, Cisse, Ben Arfa, Krul, none of them will stay at a club who has just battled relegation or even finished in mid table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 No doubt that if Pardew isn't good enough, he should be removed from his post. Still don't know who we could realistically replace him with? If there is a manager out there, who would come in and start a new project (shudder at the RAWK terminology), then I'm all for it. Had it up to my ears with stop-gaps though, and for that reason alone I'd rather Pardew stayed and had a chance to turn it around. We must strengthen the squad before we hound out the current manager imo. Should that not happen to a sufficient degree this January, Pardew should have the presence of mind to resign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 milesstarforth: Pardew on January transfer plans: 'I think (the injuries) have increased the discussions on that window.' #nufc http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdra8o8jEo1r3d02ro1_500.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Seems most would rather lose our best players than the manager, which I just find thoroughly bizarre. Cabaye, Ba, Cisse, Ben Arfa, Krul, none of them will stay at a club who has just battled relegation or even finished in mid table. Fuck that. I don't mind Pardew screwing our season, I've already written it off anyway. The problem if he stays, and continues his bizarre clod-hopping football, is that we will lose good players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 "Clod-hopping". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Seems most would rather lose our best players than the manager, which I just find thoroughly bizarre. Cabaye, Ba, Cisse, Ben Arfa, Krul, none of them will stay at a club who has just battled relegation or even finished in mid table. But I'm also inclined to think they won't want to syay around a club lacking stability and probably with another manager they'd have no more reason to have faith in than Pardew. Whoever he's replaced by, it's not going to be someone that impresses us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 He deserves at least this season to turn it around. Firing your manager at the first sign of trouble is stupid. Saying that, I really hope he manages to get us playing again. We really are terrible to watch. Even if we go down with Pardew as the captain of the ship? I seriously doubt that will happen. QPR are in serious trouble already and Reading can't seem to keep a clean sheet. We are going through the first rough patch of Pardew's time here, people need to calm down a bit and trust that the players we have will see us through this dip. Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy with the man in charge. The football we've had since he's been in charge has been so, so boring. Barring a few wondergoals the only game I enjoyed watching for any sustained period of time last year was West Brom away. That was only for one half mind. Give him the season and then hope if he hasn't got the team playing or that our owner has someone better lined up. After giving this manager an 8 year deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Looks like the changing-your-manager-before-Christmas thing is going well at Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Such comparable situations, bore off. I don't even want Pardew sacked (yet), you're just terribly tedious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Looks like the changing-your-manager-before-Christmas thing is going well at Chelsea. I'm sick and tired of Pardew and yet I still can't agree with that. Chalk and cheese, as scenarios. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 so if chelsea had won their last couple of games it means we should've sacked pardew ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 lots of time to turn the season around, not sure we could get anyone better than Pardew at the moment , Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Where did everton finish that year under moyes? The one where they kept faith with him despite being in trouble? They did that as they thought he was the right man. Ashley thinks pards is the right man. that's the bigger picture. We've got 14 points from 14 games and we've had a relatively easy run of games. We're struggling after playing games which we needed to win and we're looking at games which our current form over the last 6 games is the 2nd worst in the league. We are about to face a series of games where we'll be lucky to come out of with anything like a reasonable goal difference never mind points total. Of our 14 games played we’ve faced Chelsea and Man U away, apart from that we should be able to expect to get something from the others. We’ve vastly under-performed so often that we have no right to expect anything positive from any team either at home or away. How Everton performed under Moyes at any time is irrelevant to our current position. You're thinking of the League Cup maybe? The league fixture was at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 You're thinking of the League Cup maybe? The league fixture was at home. I was thinking about the home league game, it feels like it was years ago now at it was only about 8 weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Where did everton finish that year under moyes? The one where they kept faith with him despite being in trouble? They did that as they thought he was the right man. Ashley thinks pards is the right man. that's the bigger picture. We've got 14 points from 14 games and we've had a relatively easy run of games. We're struggling after playing games which we needed to win and we're looking at games which our current form over the last 6 games is the 2nd worst in the league. We are about to face a series of games where we'll be lucky to come out of with anything like a reasonable goal difference never mind points total. Of our 14 games played we’ve faced Chelsea and Man U away, apart from that we should be able to expect to get something from the others. We’ve vastly under-performed so often that we have no right to expect anything positive from any team either at home or away. How Everton performed under Moyes at any time is irrelevant to our current position. Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost. 2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men. Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Where did everton finish that year under moyes? The one where they kept faith with him despite being in trouble? They did that as they thought he was the right man. Ashley thinks pards is the right man. that's the bigger picture. We've got 14 points from 14 games and we've had a relatively easy run of games. We're struggling after playing games which we needed to win and we're looking at games which our current form over the last 6 games is the 2nd worst in the league. We are about to face a series of games where we'll be lucky to come out of with anything like a reasonable goal difference never mind points total. Of our 14 games played we’ve faced Chelsea and Man U away, apart from that we should be able to expect to get something from the others. We’ve vastly under-performed so often that we have no right to expect anything positive from any team either at home or away. How Everton performed under Moyes at any time is irrelevant to our current position. Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost. 2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men. Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments. So have those teams overtaken us now? Their squads don't seem any better than ours so why are we consistently losing to them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost. 2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men. Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments. Aye, right. We've only been disappointing twice this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Of the games we have played, ignoring Chelsea and Man Utd away we have also played 5,6,7,8,9 th placed teams. They didn`t get there by just picking up points off us. West Brom and Swansea are both playing way above what we are used to them playing. Both of them have won bigger games than us. Your talking like all we needed to do was turn up because we are Newcastle and Pardew has made sure we lost. 2 games I think we would have won we ended up with 10 men. Out of all of the games this season West Ham and Southampton were disappointments. Aye, right. We've only been disappointing twice this season. I was going to say this. It's probably the other way round we've only be good 2-3 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 It's probably about 100 minutes in total when you add it up, I can offer 20 in the derby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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