Stoke City 2 - 1 Newcastle United - 28/11/12 - post-match reaction from page 39

[Cronky]

Does anyone else believe that we "deserved to win" this by the way?

 

Fair enough we looked hungrier, sharper and played with more of that "verve" Pardew's always going on about than we have done recently, but I'm not sure if we "were the better team" personally. Thought a draw would've been a fair enough result.

 

Not on what I've seen. I thought we looked better than at the weekend because the opposition was worse. Stoke were poor, we looked worse.

 

None of the front six could pass the ball. If the injury situation continues we will have to bring in new people in January. If that remains our best eleven, we are going down.

[MW]

neither team was good enough to deserve the win. both were poor

[ujpest doza]

embarrassing how Jones completely out-jumps Williamson.

having just seen it on MOTD i think that's a foul by Jones, he's climbing all over him with his forearm right in the back of his neck.

 

Colocinni more at fault than Williamson for letting Jerome just jog past him.

[Rich]

Does anyone else believe that we "deserved to win" this by the way?

 

Fair enough we looked hungrier, sharper and played with more of that "verve" Pardew's always going on about than we have done recently, but I'm not sure if we "were the better team" personally. Thought a draw would've been a fair enough result.

 

Deserve is a bit strong but they didn't have a chance of note til they scored really. Draw wouldve been fairest.

 

Aye, I just don't get where this "we were robbed" sort of attitude is coming from, although I appreciate the overwhelming tone on here is negativity at the moment so we might all be a bit clouded.

 

Fair enough we conceded two bad goals and had a tenuous penalty shout immediately preceding the first. Add to the fact that Ba and Cisse missed two fairly difficult one-on-ones, but then Kenwyne Jones missed a sitter (in header terms) before they scored and I never thought we looked particularly comfortable even though Stoke were hardly pulling up trees.

 

Just stank of a typical PL bore-fest to me that could've easily gone either way. It was better from us, undoubtedly, but it was starting from a very low point after Southampton.

[ujpest doza]

Didn't even get confirmation if that throw for their first was actually theirs or not. Bollocks.

And you didn't see tha start of the move with Tiotes giveaway.

[binnsy]

Didn't even get confirmation if that throw for their first was actually theirs or not. Bollocks.

And you didn't see tha start of the move with Tiotes giveaway.

 

we have committed a catalogue of errors after Tiotes giveaway that would have stopped them scoring and most of them just basic fundamental defending.

[ujpest doza]

Didn't even get confirmation if that throw for their first was actually theirs or not. Bollocks.

And you didn't see tha start of the move with Tiotes giveaway.

 

we have committed a catalogue of errors after Tiotes giveaway that would have stopped them scoring and most of them just basic fundamental defending.

Aye, Both Santon and Tiote both lose Walters and Jose didn't cover himself in glory in stopping the ball coming in either.

[Neil]

For the 2nd goal, although Jones completely destroyed Williamson, Coloccini was more to blame IMO. Completely switched off.

[Mick]

Aye, Both Santon and Tiote both lose Walters and Jose didn't cover himself in glory in stopping the ball coming in either.

 

Nice try but I don't think we can blame him for anything.

[Robster]

We worry about the quality of our squad, but they brought Cameron Jerome on for fucks sake

[ujpest doza]

Aye, Both Santon and Tiote both lose Walters and Jose didn't cover himself in glory in stopping the ball coming in either.

 

Nice try but I don't think we can blame him for anything.

Turned his back and flapped his arms about when the winger feigned to cross.

[Disco]

Does anyone else believe that we "deserved to win" this by the way?

 

Fair enough we looked hungrier, sharper and played with more of that "verve" Pardew's always going on about than we have done recently, but I'm not sure if we "were the better team" personally. Thought a draw would've been a fair enough result.

 

Deserve is a bit strong but they didn't have a chance of note til they scored really. Draw wouldve been fairest.

 

Aye, I just don't get where this "we were robbed" sort of attitude is coming from, although I appreciate the overwhelming tone on here is negativity at the moment so we might all be a bit clouded.

 

Fair enough we conceded two bad goals and had a tenuous penalty shout immediately preceding the first. Add to the fact that Ba and Cisse missed two fairly difficult one-on-ones, but then Kenwyne Jones missed a sitter (in header terms) before they scored and I never thought we looked particularly comfortable even though Stoke were hardly pulling up trees.

 

Just stank of a typical PL bore-fest to me that could've easily gone either way. It was better from us, undoubtedly, but it was starting from a very low point after Southampton.

 

Spot on.

 

Just got to hope it'll be a continuing upward curve of performance for Monday.

[NEEJ]

Aye, Both Santon and Tiote both lose Walters and Jose didn't cover himself in glory in stopping the ball coming in either.

 

Nice try but I don't think we can blame him for anything.

Turned his back and flapped his arms about when the winger feigned to cross.

Erm...

[Neil]

Aye, Both Santon and Tiote both lose Walters and Jose didn't cover himself in glory in stopping the ball coming in either.

 

Nice try but I don't think we can blame him for anything.

Turned his back and flapped his arms about when the winger feigned to cross.

Erm...

 

He did - Lennon absolutely skinned him.

[Mick]

Turned his back and flapped his arms about when the winger feigned to cross.

 

He didn't.

[Incognito]

Englands so called premier ref stunk the place out too. Absolute appalling game Webb had. Can only assume he's Charlie Adam's father in law.

[Sean]

Haven't read any of the thread, was watching with a Liverpool supporting mate, who surprise surprise could see everything that we have all been seeing for a long time now. Four defeats in a row, against poor opposition, fuck me we are awful at the minute. I'm guessing Pardew has come out and explained the defeat as being the result of a mixture of bad luck / missing key players / confidence / Stoke being in form / everything except for himself.

 

I said before the game that losing these 4 games was unthinkable, 14 points from 14 games, more than 1/3 of the season gone, key players out, no-one to replace them, jesus, we're in the shit whatever way you look at it.

 

Oh and by the way, see how Stoke, yes Stoke, came from behind to win...why the fuck are we completely incapable of doing that ourselves?

[MW]

10/10 for those who went. i didnt consider it, heard them all game

[LRD]

4 defeats in a row.  Glad I didn't wake up at 3.45am to a nightmare.

 

What was our record run of defeats?

[oldtype]

10/10 for those who went. i didnt consider it, heard them all game

 

You wouldn't know with the commentator constantly raving about the "magnificent Stoke fans"

[ChrisJbarnes]

Just got back from the Britannia and I think a lot of people need to get a bit of perspective.

 

I'm gutted with that result, and so were the rest of the Geordie crowd, of which there were a fair few and we provided a great atmosphere for 90 minutes.

 

However, we were extremely unlucky not to win overall. The last 10 minutes were tragic. For 80 minutes, we were the better side and put in a thoroughly professional away performance at a place where it is difficult to pick up any points, let alone play good football.

 

I went into the game expecting an abject performance, and us to not even show up, so any performance whatsoever exceeded my expectations. The manner in which we lost was galling, no doubt.

 

80 minutes, we are 1-0 up having generally controlled the game and restricted a tough side at home to a couple of chances. After what looked like a blatant penalty to me, we should have been 2-0 up, home and dry and celebrating 3 points and a professional away performance.

 

2 defensive mistakes in the last 9 minutes gave Stoke the points, after most of the ground thought we would get away with it.

 

We may not have set the world alight today, but I think the players and manager put in a good shift overall tonight, and I've no complaints with individual performances except for Williamson.

 

Tactics were as good as you can expect, effort was there. Confidence seemed to be returning, until the mistakes at the end. Its painfully obvious to me that the main reason we are struggling is the lack of depth in our squad. Look at Stoke's bench (a lower mid table team) vs ours (a European team). They were able to bring on some players that we could use in our squad in terms of depth. Jones and Jerome enabled them to change things whereas we had no options- Marveux perhaps but there might be good reasons why Pardew didnt play him. Take Coloccini and Tiote out of our team and we've not got the reserves leading to our current slump.

 

Williamson is obviously short of what we need, as is Simpson. Retaining Leon Best, signing Debuchy and another centre back, we'd be several places above in the table now and the prize money would increase accordingly. Point your fingers at the beancounters at the top as to why this is not the case. Although I'd obviously have liked significantly more points and performances from the last 4 games, we've hit poor form, and the XI we've put out isnt that great.

 

Pardews obviously not a Mourinho or Guardiola, but he was deservedly manager of the season last year. Since appointed, he's done a sound job, and sacking him would be madness. There's no-one we could get that would be a step forward, and we'd lose the recent stability and credibility that the club has had. It was obvious that with the system we've got, Pardew is the man and he's not going anywhere.

 

Players and manager left the field to sympathetic/ grateful applause from everyone at the Britannia, and Pardews name was sung a few times throughout.

[ElDiablo]

So glad I'm so busy at the moment so I don't have time to dwell on us doing so badly. Nearly collapsed at work when I checked the score on my phone and it refreshed from 1-0 to 2-1, felt like I'd been gut punched.

[Wullie]

Can't even bring myself to go to bed due to the thought of that horrible feeling in the morning when I wake up and remember what happened, then have to go to fucking work and think about it all day.

[merlin]

Haven't seen the game yet, so won't comment on the performance - fact remains, though , that its another defeat and to a poor team after being in front.

 

This sort of result, coming on top of the bad run already seen, can only end up one way unless stopped quickly and that is in relegation. The Wigan game is now absolutely crucial and if another defeat occurs in that, action is going to have to be taken to stop the rot, although what Ashley will decide to do is anyone's guess...he probably hasn't a clue himself !

[cubaricho]

Just got back from the Britannia and I think a lot of people need to get a bit of perspective.

 

I'm gutted with that result, and so were the rest of the Geordie crowd, of which there were a fair few and we provided a great atmosphere for 90 minutes.

 

However, we were extremely unlucky not to win overall. The last 10 minutes were tragic. For 80 minutes, we were the better side and put in a thoroughly professional away performance at a place where it is difficult to pick up any points, let alone play good football.

 

I went into the game expecting an abject performance, and us to not even show up, so any performance whatsoever exceeded my expectations. The manner in which we lost was galling, no doubt.

 

80 minutes, we are 1-0 up having generally controlled the game and restricted a tough side at home to a couple of chances. After what looked like a blatant penalty to me, we should have been 2-0 up, home and dry and celebrating 3 points and a professional away performance.

 

2 defensive mistakes in the last 9 minutes gave Stoke the points, after most of the ground thought we would get away with it.

 

We may not have set the world alight today, but I think the players and manager put in a good shift overall tonight, and I've no complaints with individual performances except for Williamson.

 

Tactics were as good as you can expect, effort was there. Confidence seemed to be returning, until the mistakes at the end. Its painfully obvious to me that the main reason we are struggling is the lack of depth in our squad. Look at Stoke's bench (a lower mid table team) vs ours (a European team). They were able to bring on some players that we could use in our squad in terms of depth. Jones and Jerome enabled them to change things whereas we had no options- Marveux perhaps but there might be good reasons why Pardew didnt play him. Take Coloccini and Tiote out of our team and we've not got the reserves leading to our current slump.

 

Williamson is obviously short of what we need, as is Simpson. Retaining Leon Best, signing Debuchy and another centre back, we'd be several places above in the table now and the prize money would increase accordingly. Point your fingers at the beancounters at the top as to why this is not the case. Although I'd obviously have liked significantly more points and performances from the last 4 games, we've hit poor form, and the XI we've put out isnt that great.

 

Pardews obviously not a Mourinho or Guardiola, but he was deservedly manager of the season last year. Since appointed, he's done a sound job, and sacking him would be madness. There's no-one we could get that would be a step forward, and we'd lose the recent stability and credibility that the club has had. It was obvious that with the system we've got, Pardew is the man and he's not going anywhere.

 

Players and manager left the field to sympathetic/ grateful applause from everyone at the Britannia, and Pardews name was sung a few times throughout.