Guest firetotheworks Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 For all the posturing Weeey legend, eeeh what's he like, banter shite linked with Kamara. The obvious thing that sticks out for me is that he talks a myriad of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 This is one we really need to keep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Best movement we've had since Bellamy. Completley transforms us going forward and makes Cabaye so much more useful. For fuck sake make an effort to keep him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 When the fk is he in court? dragging on to long this, sealing the deal in January is a must for us. If he wants to stay here he may have bigger ambitions and I think will get better offers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Better than Ba? Different player but arguably more effective. Would like to see them play together (for us!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Don't think he's better than Ba but I think the two would make a mean partnership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 He's much better.... faster, better touch, dribbler, close control, passer, movement and so on. Remy is the best CF we have had since Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 At this early stage is he our best ever loan signing? I don't remember too many more good ones in this division Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Assuming there was a relegation release clause in his QPR contract, would that still be valid even if they came back up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 At this early stage is he our best ever loan signing? I don't remember too many more good ones in this division Distin's the only other good one I can think of. Saha too. But neither of those were as good as Remy. Hatem, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Better than Ba? Different player but arguably more effective. Would like to see them play together (for us!) Not for me. Not a chance. Ba for us was unreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 He's a much footballer than Ba. We'll see if he's as consistent a goalscorer, I think he'll prove himself to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Ba is a brilliant all-round footballer and goal scorer. One of the very best strikers in the league imo. The guy managed about 13 goals in 20 games in that bag of wank team last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Remy has better mobility, that's it pretty much. Ba slays him in everything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Ba is a brilliant all-round footballer and goal scorer. One of the very best strikers in the league imo. The guy managed about 13 goals in 20 games in that bag of w*** team last season. Nah he isn't.... he's not a great passer, dribbler and doesn't have great technique.... Remy beats him in all regards as far as being an great all round footballer goes, Ba is lethal as f*ck with the right service but he's not a great all round footballer. Which is why he's struggled for Chelsea, he doesn't get the chances because he isn't very good at creating space for himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Remy has a better first touch, passing, movement and pace imo. What mole said.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Remy has better mobility, that's it pretty much. Ba slays him in everything else. Ba slays him in dribbling, passing, technique, link up, first touch etc etc? Sorry i don't see that, Ba was quite average at those things i don't remember this outstanding all round footballer that was great at many things outside the penalty area. I remember a lethal striker who with service would score up there with anybody.... but his all round game wasn't this good he'd miscontrol passes and give the ball away a lot and wasn't that great of a dribbler and certainly not as good as Remy at running at defenses. If he was this player he wouldn't be sitting on Chelsea's bench most weeks and struggled the majority of time when he does play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 There's just no way Ba slays Remy at anything in terms of general play. Remy is just a better technical player and has shown some real intelligence outside the box in his time here, he's a class act. You could put him pretty much anywhere along the frontline and he'd be effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 totally different players, more players you play together than choose between. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'd fucking love to see Ba and Remy up front like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'd fucking love to see Ba and Remy up front like. Aye fkn hell with Cabaye providing the ammo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Remy has better mobility, that's it pretty much. Ba slays him in everything else. Ba slays him in dribbling, passing, technique, link up, first touch etc etc? Sorry i don't see that, Ba was quite average at those things i don't remember this outstanding all round footballer that was great at many things outside the penalty area. I remember a lethal striker who with service would score up there with anybody.... but his all round game wasn't this good he'd miscontrol passes and give the ball away a lot and wasn't that great of a dribbler and certainly not as good as Remy at running at defenses. If he was this player he wouldn't be sitting on Chelsea's bench most weeks and struggled the majority of time when he does play. I'm not saying specific instances in isolation are unimpeachably indicative of his skills in the areas you mention, but in terms of first touch and movement - see him hold his run and take the ball after Cabaye's chip, before sliding it into the corner vs Norwich. From the same game, he beats a defender without pace by turning the ball onto his left foot (before finishing with aplomb from distance). You also missed off other categories your list. In terms of presence and link-up play, I very much urge you to watch the full 90 minutes of the 3-0 win vs Man Utd - far superior to anything I've seen Remy demonstrate thus far He's far stronger, braver and aggressive than Remy too. I wouldn't be dismissive of just how much better a finisher he is than Remy too, who seems to be a one-in-three chances striker. It's pretty important in their roles. Ba's also better in the air too, for me. In terms of link-up, he did just as well (if not better?) with Ameobi as Remy is currently doing. Anyway, we disagree, that's cool - I'm going to leave this post as my parting shot as there's no way to prove one way or another who is right. I don't think the "look at him at Chelsea" argument holds much sway whatsoever. He's getting a payday now, it doesn't retrospectively change how he was up here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Carroll was better than both of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Carroll was better than both of them. better at some things but given the three, he'd be on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Ba is a brilliant all-round footballer and goal scorer. One of the very best strikers in the league imo. The guy managed about 13 goals in 20 games in that bag of w*** team last season. Nah he isn't.... he's not a great passer, dribbler and doesn't have great technique.... Remy beats him in all regards as far as being an great all round footballer goes, Ba is lethal as f*ck with the right service but he's not a great all round footballer. Which is why he's struggled for Chelsea, he doesn't get the chances because he isn't very good at creating space for himself. So we create more than Chelsea now? I think Remy is the better player but I sometimes wonder if a few even saw Ba play for us given the criticisms he gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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