Jack Flash Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Eh? I specifically didn't say anything! I love how your assumptions are valid and mine are ridiculous... that's fair. "wait and see" has turned into a catchphrase. I wouldn't call years of experience of selling players to fund new signings assumptions. Almost every signing we've made since Ashley turned up has been funded by player sales. That's what happens when a club has been losing money, is trying break even and has an ownership that will only put a very finite amount of money into transfers/wages. That and shrewd/clever scouting. We'd best get used to it. I would his imagine his use of "assumptions" is probably based on your notion that their is some kind of "specific player" for "specific player" plan in place. Our finances are infinitely better than they were the day before Carroll left 2 years ago. I stopped believing the "we're so poor" lines quite a while back. There does seem to be a player for player plan in place. It's very clear we're after Remy as a result of Ba's status and Pardew (and maybe Llambo) himself said we weren't buying a new left back until Enrique left because we didn't want 2 on the books. If we'd have found a buyer for Simpson last summer there'd have been far more chance of us getting Debuchy imo. Also that purple player stuff. Whatever that is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Eh? I specifically didn't say anything! I love how your assumptions are valid and mine are ridiculous... that's fair. "wait and see" has turned into a catchphrase. I wouldn't call years of experience of selling players to fund new signings assumptions. Almost every signing we've made since Ashley turned up has been funded by player sales. That's what happens when a club has been losing money, is trying break even and has an ownership that will only put a very finite amount of money into transfers/wages. That and shrewd/clever scouting. We'd best get used to it. I would his imagine his use of "assumptions" is probably based on your notion that their is some kind of "specific player" for "specific player" plan in place. Our finances are infinitely better than they were the day before Carroll left 2 years ago. I stopped believing the "we're so poor" lines quite a while back. There does seem to be a player for player plan in place. It's very clear we're after Remy as a result of Ba's status and Pardew (and maybe Llambo) himself said we weren't buying a new left back until Enrique left because we didn't want 2 on the books. If we'd have found a buyer for Simpson last summer there'd have been far more chance of us getting Debuchy imo. This all ties in with the 11 purple player nonsense. They have to stop thinking like that and be a bit more flexible. Not likely i know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I don't even mind the purple player thing, it seems like a pretty sensible approach but they have to increase the number of purple players from 11 to 13/14 if we want a competitive squad. They also need to significantly improve the quality of some of our fringe players because they are quite simply not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I don't even mind the purple player thing, it seems like a pretty sensible approach but they have to increase the number of purple players from 11 to 13/14 if we want a competitive squad. They also need to significantly improve the quality of some of our fringe players because they are quite simply not good enough. Aye, thats why i said being a bit flexible with it. Scary just how daft they are thinking that 11 is enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I don't even mind the purple player thing, it seems like a pretty sensible approach but they have to increase the number of purple players from 11 to 13/14 if we want a competitive squad. They also need to significantly improve the quality of some of our fringe players because they are quite simply not good enough. Aye, thats why i said being a bit flexible with it. Scary just how daft they are thinking that 11 is enough. It's a system that relies on every purple player performing to the best of their ability all the time, otherwise it's just a wasted purple slot. Look at the situation with Jonas now - he offers f*** all but is still one of our purple players. Assuming these are the 11 purple players there's not much room for juggling the pack at all. Krul S Taylor Colo Santon Jonas Cabaye Tiote Anita Ba Cisse Ben Arfa At a push, and taking into consideration the improved form of Anita, i'd say the only ones we could afford to lose are Jonas and Tiote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I don't even mind the purple player thing, it seems like a pretty sensible approach but they have to increase the number of purple players from 11 to 13/14 if we want a competitive squad. They also need to significantly improve the quality of some of our fringe players because they are quite simply not good enough. Aye, thats why i said being a bit flexible with it. Scary just how daft they are thinking that 11 is enough. They didn't. It was 8 plus Anita iirc.* To be fair, I think what Pardew had to say in the Chronicle gives some hope now that when faced with the club 'not being able to afford more purples', or 'the club can't afford to not invest in more purples', they'll opt for the latter more often than in the past. * "Where we are now is that we have, in effect, 11 purples if you count Anita - he can play midfield, right-back, left-back. You can't have two purples per position because the club can't afford it. You have to be realistic." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I don't even mind the purple player thing, it seems like a pretty sensible approach but they have to increase the number of purple players from 11 to 13/14 if we want a competitive squad. They also need to significantly improve the quality of some of our fringe players because they are quite simply not good enough. Aye, thats why i said being a bit flexible with it. Scary just how daft they are thinking that 11 is enough. They didn't. It was 8 plus Anita iirc.* To be fair, I think what Pardew had to say in the Chronicle gives some hope now that when faced with the club 'not being able to afford more purples', or 'the club can't afford to not invest in more purples', they'll opt for the latter more often than in the past. * "Where we are now is that we have, in effect, 11 purples if you count Anita - he can play midfield, right-back, left-back. You can't have two purples per position because the club can't afford it. You have to be realistic." Wat !!!! Just 9 players, have they never heard of injuries....really is clown school days with them two. Its a nice sentiment but it just doesn't work if you want to finish in the top ten of the Premiership........think there mental tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Eh? I specifically didn't say anything! I love how your assumptions are valid and mine are ridiculous... that's fair. "wait and see" has turned into a catchphrase. I wouldn't call years of experience of selling players to fund new signings assumptions. Almost every signing we've made since Ashley turned up has been funded by player sales. That's what happens when a club has been losing money, is trying break even and has an ownership that will only put a very finite amount of money into transfers/wages. That and shrewd/clever scouting. We'd best get used to it. I would his imagine his use of "assumptions" is probably based on your notion that their is some kind of "specific player" for "specific player" plan in place. Our finances are infinitely better than they were the day before Carroll left 2 years ago. I stopped believing the "we're so poor" lines quite a while back. There does seem to be a player for player plan in place. It's very clear we're after Remy as a result of Ba's status and Pardew (and maybe Llambo) himself said we weren't buying a new left back until Enrique left because we didn't want 2 on the books. If we'd have found a buyer for Simpson last summer there'd have been far more chance of us getting Debuchy imo. Also that purple player stuff. Whatever that is You don't say! I don't think "we're so poor" either. Latest noises have us around the break even point, which in European football nowadays actually makes us one of the richer clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I don't even mind the purple player thing, it seems like a pretty sensible approach but they have to increase the number of purple players from 11 to 13/14 if we want a competitive squad. They also need to significantly improve the quality of some of our fringe players because they are quite simply not good enough. Aye, thats why i said being a bit flexible with it. Scary just how daft they are thinking that 11 is enough. It's a system that relies on every purple player performing to the best of their ability all the time, otherwise it's just a wasted purple slot. Look at the situation with Jonas now - he offers f*** all but is still one of our purple players. Assuming these are the 11 purple players there's not much room for juggling the pack at all. Krul S Taylor Colo Santon Jonas Cabaye Tiote Anita Ba Cisse Ben Arfa At a push, and taking into consideration the improved form of Anita, i'd say the only ones we could afford to lose are Jonas and Tiote. Yep and getting no injuries, Thick as pig shit thinking. Or should that be money saving thinking which i understand but you simply can't do that if want a club to stay in the top ten or so. I'm not even suggesting FFS style of spending but just a little bit more open minded and flexible type of approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 http://www.le10sport.com/football/france/ligue1/exclu-om-remy-taarabt-le-chasse-croise-a-l-etude84589?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=le10sport QPR are after him too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 http://www.le10sport.com/football/france/ligue1/exclu-om-remy-taarabt-le-chasse-croise-a-l-etude84589?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=le10sport QPR are after him too. There's a surprise! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nufc1892 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Saggy face Redknapp probably has his agent on speed dial sitting waiting by the phone for the clock to strike midnight on New Years Eve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Fed up of these nothing clubs suddenly having money to lob at everyone. Urgh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 http://www.le10sport.com/football/france/ligue1/exclu-om-remy-taarabt-le-chasse-croise-a-l-etude84589?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=le10sport QPR are after him too. Sounds like a highly unlikely swap deal that one. Obviously they have the money to chuck at him if they wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 He sounds like a direct replacement for Ba, has the same attributes, a goal poacher. Do not see him as an ideal forward to play out wide. His passing, creativity and crossing is just as average or non-existance as Ba and Cisse. Then again that has never stopped Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I thought Remy was an either side of the centre forward in a front three tyoe forward. If he isn't i don't know why we're going after him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 From what I've seen of him he'd be pretty well suited to that role, unlike our 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 http://www.le10sport.com/football/france/ligue1/exclu-om-remy-taarabt-le-chasse-croise-a-l-etude84589?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=le10sport QPR are after him too. Fuck, keep forgetting Redknapp's back in a job. Sod the training ground, we need to fence this bloke off from our fax machine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I thought Remy was an either side of the centre forward in a front three tyoe forward. If he isn't i don't know why we're going after him. He is. Whenever I have seen an OM game he's always played straight off or to one side of people like Gignac or Brandao. Used to love that little fluidity they had, where Remy would start on a wing and cut inside while Valbuena drifted outside to fill the gap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 So we're after one player and it looks like it might be a forward, does that rule out the central defender we've needed for years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Who knows? Pardew has said in the past that he was after one player and ended up getting more, just ignore the paper chatter. Just imagine if we got remy, debauchy and maybe even douglas too......stranger things have happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 So we're after one player and it looks like it might be a forward, does that rule out the central defender we've needed for years? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 So we're after one player and it looks like it might be a forward, does that rule out the central defender we've needed for years? Striker will probably top priority when our only goalscorer leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 From what I've seen of him he'd be pretty well suited to that role, unlike our 2. Yeah. Hugely off-form this season, but from what i've seen he's ideal for the 4-3-3. I think him and Ben Arfa either side of Ba or Cisse would be a top class front line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 No. The same was said in the summer when we bought Anita yet here we are and our most used central defender is Williamson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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