Mick Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The thought of Shola starting another game is mind boggling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The thought of Shola starting another game is mind boggling. For me its just a conclusion that Pardew is really hopeless. Who in their right mind see Shola fit to start a PL match? Its absolutely mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Shola-Cisse in a 4-4-2 will be more effective than the Ba-Cisse partnership early on this season. I think as a temporary measure for this game it will do, until we get another forward. I'm not a Shola fan but it's our only option after the total ineffectiveness of 4-2-3-1 Vs Norwich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I'll be your good luck charm today. Ohhh Ameobi, you are the love of my life.... that's how the song goes, right? Right? Oh, right. Personally think, while it's far from ideal, Shola and Cisse in a 4-4-2 - if that happens - could have some potential. The one thing Ameobi seems to be good at is winning it in the air so if Cisse's sharp, it could work. More so than Ba-Cisse. I hope to see Ameobi perform many bicycle kicks, regardless. Edit: basically what Fenham said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Shola-Cisse in a 4-4-2 will be more effective than the Ba-Cisse partnership early on this season. I think as a temporary measure for this game it will do, until we get another forward. I'm not a Shola fan but it's our only option after the total ineffectiveness of 4-2-3-1 Vs Norwich. At least Shola will not be making the same runs as Cisse, the problem is that it will only be because he'll not be running much after the first 15 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Our only option is to play a formation completely unsuited to a single one of our players just because Shola likes long balls? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Shola-Cisse in a 4-4-2 will be more effective than the Ba-Cisse partnership early on this season. I think as a temporary measure for this game it will do, until we get another forward. I'm not a Shola fan but it's our only option after the total ineffectiveness of 4-2-3-1 Vs Norwich. The total ineffectiveness of the formation against Norwich was to do with Pardew telling them to play that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I dont care. Shola or no Shola we should be beating Reading. My question is how he will start the team though? Marveaux and Jonas on the flanks with Cabaye and Anita in the middle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Shola-Cisse in a 4-4-2 will be more effective than the Ba-Cisse partnership early on this season. I think as a temporary measure for this game it will do, until we get another forward. I'm not a Shola fan but it's our only option after the total ineffectiveness of 4-2-3-1 Vs Norwich. The total ineffectiveness of the formation against Norwich was to do with Pardew telling them to play that way. Aye, being as defensive as he can be, which we all now know is his default tactic. I hate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Shola-Cisse in a 4-4-2 will be more effective than the Ba-Cisse partnership early on this season. I think as a temporary measure for this game it will do, until we get another forward. I'm not a Shola fan but it's our only option after the total ineffectiveness of 4-2-3-1 Vs Norwich. The total ineffectiveness of the formation against Norwich was to do with Pardew telling them to play that way. Aye - the objective at Norwich was to not get beat, today it should be win at all costs. I'll be genuinely surprised if Shola starts this one mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Going to be putting my walking boots on for this to walk down to St James from Jesmond ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I don't think 4-2-3-1 was the reason we were poor against Norwich. Could've played any formation I think, and been poor. We're splitting hairs a little bit... our 4-4-1-1-ish / 4-2-3-1-ish thing is a lot like a 4-4-2 with a withdrawn striker. The crucial difference is that one requires Shola Ameobi to start the match and one gives a starring role to Marveaux instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Shola-Cisse in a 4-4-2 will be more effective than the Ba-Cisse partnership early on this season. I think as a temporary measure for this game it will do, until we get another forward. I'm not a Shola fan but it's our only option after the total ineffectiveness of 4-2-3-1 Vs Norwich. The total ineffectiveness of the formation against Norwich was to do with Pardew telling them to play that way. Aye - the objective at Norwich was to not get beat, today it should be win at all costs. I'll be genuinely surprised if Shola starts this one mind. Pardew seems incapable of having a go though, it really makes you wonder wtf was going on in the Man Utd/Arsenal games. I just would love to see us grab them by the throat from the first whistle, but in reality it'll be us hoofing it and letting them have possession and getting themselves into the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Shola-Cisse in a 4-4-2 will be more effective than the Ba-Cisse partnership early on this season. I think as a temporary measure for this game it will do, until we get another forward. I'm not a Shola fan but it's our only option after the total ineffectiveness of 4-2-3-1 Vs Norwich. Its not a formation issue mate. its a football philosophy issue. We have no movement or plan. In 442 Pardew can lump it up and hope the two on top sorts out a goal. Sure as fuck no one from midfield will come up and help them. The 4-2-3-1 issue at Norwich comes when he asked the two wide forwards to follow the wings when we defend. Why does he not ask them to hold a little bit higher on the pitch, so we can for once this season have a chance for a counter attack? How many times this season have we won the ball and gone for a counter, none? Just a striker or two up there, rest is lumping after. So frustrating and negative tactic from Pardew, get some balls! Strange thing is that he did it against Arsenal and Manu, as he thought we had nothing to lose. Against Reading he will think he have everything to lose, and set us up not to concede. By doing this he have lost even before the ball is kicked! Again Shola is not effective in this position either, giving away free kicks, loses the ball, tired after 30 mins etc. At least Ba provided goals The sad part is, that i think all of us knows whats coming. It will be a frustrating 90min, Pardew style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I don't think 4-2-3-1 was the reason we were poor against Norwich. Could've played any formation I think, and been poor. We're splitting hairs a little bit... our 4-4-1-1-ish / 4-2-3-1-ish thing is a lot like a 4-4-2 with a withdrawn striker. The crucial difference is that one requires Shola Ameobi to start the match and one gives a starring role to Marveaux instead I can't think of any formation that requires Shola to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The team should be: Krul Debuchy Colo. Williamson Santon Bigi Anita Cabaye Marv. Jonas Cisse That is the formation our player are used to and the formation we have played the majority of the season,we should not be changing the way we set out just to suit Shola. The player that everyone knows is a good impact sub, but doesn't perform when, in from the start. I wonder if Pardew will blame the fact that we set up for Remy being in our team if we lose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Hmmm started the Wigan game very brightly didn't we, to pluck a recent example? Ball on the deck, moving it about nicely before the penno. Could be that he sees this as an eminently winnable home game of the same ilk, in which case we could see a similar approach? Or maybe he'll see it as that bit more pressurised and just take no risks. Don't think it's open-and-shut though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I just had a horrible thought, what if we are playing 4-2-3-1, but with Shola in the middle and Cisse on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The team should be: Krul Debuchy Colo. Williamson Santon Bigi Anita Cabaye Marv. Jonas Cisse That is the formation our player are used to and the formation we have played the majority of the season,we should not be changing the way we set out just to suit Shola. The player that everyone knows is a good impact sub, but doesn't perform when, in from the start. I wonder if Pardew will blame the fact that we set up for Remy being in our team if we lose I am tempted to say Obertan for Jonas tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I just had a horrible thought, what if we are playing 4-2-3-1, but with Shola in the middle and Cisse on the right. As a member of the inner circle I can confirm that that will never ever happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 If its start snowing during the game, does the Premier League have a red ball? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Our only option is to play a formation completely unsuited to a single one of our players just because Shola likes long balls? I doubt Shola's inclusion would have much to do with how we play. Posted about this yesterday. When he made a point of saying Reading were dangerous from set pieces there was always a strong chance he'd start with Shola as we don't have a lot height in the team, and his muddled comments about formations seemed to be hinting at concentrating at being hard to beat and grinding out results. Not saying he's right but playing 442 with Shola up front would hardly be a bolt out of the blue. As always we need an early goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Debuchy's home debut today. Hope he has a good game. Would be a shame for him if there is a negative atmosphere in the stadium today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Be interesting to see the reaction from the media if we lose, I think Pardew has had a very easy ride recently but surely they can't ignore it any longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 If we lose, then Pardew should be out first thing in the morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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