triggs Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Aye the few runs he did against Portugal in the final probably don't outweigh the 5 goals Payet was directly involved in like, regardless of the opposition or stage of the competition. Aye I've already said Payet was better against the shit teams in games they could afford not to win/when the game was already over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 It really hurts you seeing Sissoko being called shite doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Payet scoring a last minute goal in the first match classed as unimportant yet Sissoko doing a lot of running in the final two games is 'good' I've heard it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 It really hurts you seeing Sissoko being called shite doesn't it? Nah he's been shit for Spurs so far, was shit in many games during his time here and isn't a very good footballer. This conversation is about Payet not Sissoko. Payet did nothing in the knockout rounds and people have him down as one of the best players in the tournament because of his performances against much worse teams. Same with van Persie in the last World Cup when people said he played well despite him scoring a few nice goals in the group stages and doing nothing in the knockouts while Robben carried that team throughout the tournament Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Don't know why Triggs is saying is so controversial tbh, he's right in the KO stages Payet did fuck all. I don't think Sissoko was particularly good either tbh, but he was probably more impactful to the teams overall result and performances than Payet was in the KO stages. Don't think either were particularly good mind and it's a silly argument, France got to the final pretty much because of good defensive organisation and arguably the best finisher in world football banging in timely goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Payet scoring a last minute goal in the first match classed as unimportant yet Sissoko doing a lot of running in the final two games is 'good' I've heard it all. Odd that he would get so much praise for his performances if all he did was run, mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Don't know why Triggs is saying is so controversial tbh, he's right in the KO stages Payet did fuck all. I don't think Sissoko was particularly good either tbh, but he was probably more impactful to the teams overall result and performances than Payet was in the KO stages. Don't think either were particularly good mind and it's a silly argument, France got to the final pretty much because of good defensive organisation and arguably the best finisher in world football banging in timely goals. It isn't controversial at all. People read what they want to read rather than what's actually there and then go mental based on that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackandWhite Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Payet - Created the most chances out of the entire squad for France in the knockouts Sissoko - Had one shot wide and one on target against Portugal and ran a lot. Passed the ball a few times to other players (the very basics of football) Sissoko for me, like. Also if Sissoko was so good defensively were's the backup for this? How many successful interceptions and tackles he make during the two games against Portugal and Germany for example? He definitely done fuck all offensively that's clear, but I can't remember him doing much defensively either. Please do enlighten me. I will gladly swallow any pride and admit I misjudged his defensive contributions if you can prove he was defensively outstanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Payet - Created the most chances out of the entire squad for France in the knockouts Sissoko - Had one shot wide and one on target against Portugal and ran a lot. Passed the ball a few times to other players (the very basics of football) Sissoko for me, like. Also if Sissoko was so good defensively were's the backup for this? How many successful interceptions and tackles he make during the two games against Portugal and Germany for example? He definitely done fuck all offensively that's clear, but I can't remember him doing much defensively either. Please do enlighten me. I will gladly swallow any pride and admit I misjudged his defensive contributions if you can prove he was defensively outstanding. Unless you score or assist are you doing fuck all offensively? Did Xavi do fuck all offensively? You'd have to ask why he was starting and why he got such rave reviews if he did fuck all defensively and offensively Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 He got rave reviews by the same muppets who priced him at £30m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 No goals and no assists make Moussa a very naughty boy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Don't know why Triggs is saying is so controversial tbh, he's right in the KO stages Payet did fuck all. I don't think Sissoko was particularly good either tbh, but he was probably more impactful to the teams overall result and performances than Payet was in the KO stages. Don't think either were particularly good mind and it's a silly argument, France got to the final pretty much because of good defensive organisation and arguably the best finisher in world football banging in timely goals. And Payet dragging them out of the group stages. Payet was a lot better than Sissoko at the Euros, honestly I don't even know why anyone is trying to suggest otherwise (or that it's even close) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Don't know why Triggs is saying is so controversial tbh, he's right in the KO stages Payet did fuck all. I don't think Sissoko was particularly good either tbh, but he was probably more impactful to the teams overall result and performances than Payet was in the KO stages. Don't think either were particularly good mind and it's a silly argument, France got to the final pretty much because of good defensive organisation and arguably the best finisher in world football banging in timely goals. And Payet dragging them out of the group stages. Payet was a lot better than Sissoko at the Euros, honestly I don't even know why anyone is trying to suggest otherwise (or that it's even close) They would have got out of the group stages anyway. Nobody is trying to suggest Sissoko was better over the course of the tournament, Sissoko was better against the better teams though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 He got rave reviews by the same muppets who priced him at £30m Rafa seemed to rate him at £30m too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 That's not how it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 That's not how it works. On the rave reviews thing, are all the people on here who thought he played class muppets too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 If they gave him rave reviews for the tournament then aye. He played well enough against Portugal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 If they gave him rave reviews for the tournament then aye. He played well enough against Portugal. It's the final and semi final we've been talking about though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackandWhite Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Payet - Created the most chances out of the entire squad for France in the knockouts Sissoko - Had one shot wide and one on target against Portugal and ran a lot. Passed the ball a few times to other players (the very basics of football) Sissoko for me, like. Also if Sissoko was so good defensively were's the backup for this? How many successful interceptions and tackles he make during the two games against Portugal and Germany for example? He definitely done f*** all offensively that's clear, but I can't remember him doing much defensively either. Please do enlighten me. I will gladly swallow any pride and admit I misjudged his defensive contributions if you can prove he was defensively outstanding. Unless you score or assist are you doing f*** all offensively? Did Xavi do f*** all offensively? You'd have to ask why he was starting and why he got such rave reviews if he did f*** all defensively and offensively No I never implied that. If I did would I bring up Payet's chance creation stats in my defense of him being better? None of the chances he created in the knockouts led to assists for him, but he is powerless of that because he needs his teammates to tuck them away for him he can't do both. Let me ask you this: How many chances did Sissoko create for his teammates? What was his pass completion rate then? Payet's was over 80% for example. Sissoko was over hyped and has always been overrated even before the euros. I am very thankful the media did exaggerate his performance so greatly though as it's landed our great leader Rafa with an extra few million to spend on players. Buzzing with that. Also if it hadn't been for Payet's goals and assists France would have finished the group stages with just 2 points. Still sure they would have got through? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Enjoy your Friday lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Payet has sublime talent, but he's often a peripheral figure who gets overrun during the period of 90 mins. That's the only reason he got dropped in the Euros, he wasn't performing in those games. He's not had the same impact for West Ham this season either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Payet has sublime talent, but he's often a peripheral figure who gets overrun during the period of 90 mins. That's the only reason he got dropped in the Euros, he wasn't performing in those games. He's not had the same impact for West Ham this season either. Absolute nonsense The only game he didn't start was against Switzerland. France were already through and he was rested. He got 2 goals and 1 assist in the 2 games before that. 'Wasn't performing' ffs. You just make stuff up man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 he was rested in a group game, otherwise he started every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 He's also joint 2nd most assists in the league this year despite West Ham being 4th bottom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Tron winging it and hoping nobody else watched it either again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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