ATB Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 If you been reading this forum for some time you could easily divide this forum in the categories "optimist" and "pessimist" and people that support Pardew more than others. And that has definitely been ongoing for some time (). But surly we all want the same thing - success for Newcastle United Football Club? That´s what has hit me the last few days. Because how can some people just "stick there head in the sand" and "blindly support Ashley and Pardew" the way this season has gone (as I sees it), don´t they also want us to be successively? Then it just hit me. Maybe we all want success. But maybe we define it differently. Because what is "success"? And most important. What is success for you?? And that is just between us fans, but also to the club. How are they defining success? My point is. Why discuss players and systems if some are happy with PL contract and some wants to win PL. So What is "success" for you and were do you want this club to be in the long term to call it an successfully club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 With this owner and manager - stay in the division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Just win a cup and stay in the division. Keep bringing in quality players too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yup. Staying put in the division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 To win something before I die would be just lovely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Regularly compete for European places and try to win a cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 For this season, staying in the Premiership and keeping our best players and adding to the squad in the summer. In the long term, a trophy, and staying in the top 10 at the minimum and fighting for/getting into Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Regularly compete for European places and try to win a cup. This. Regular top 7/8 finishes, turn up in a Cup competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Regularly compete for European places and try to win a cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 This club should be challenging for top 4/5 every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I wouldn't consider just staying up 'success' really. It's a very difficult one to answer, sporting competition in the PL is obsolete because everything is in the hands of the mega rich clubs. Unless we spend massively, we will never win the league. Nobody will, that's a fact. Even if we qualify for the Champs League again we probably don't have the resources to compete. I would love us to win a trophy, for this reason I've always thought we should take the cups much more seriously. In day-to-day terms, I just want us to continue to try and progress as a club by making the best signings we can and entertaining our fans on a weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craig-NUFC Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 This year: Stay in the division. Next year: Top 10 Year after and onwards: Stability and start pushing for a regular European place and challenging for cups. 5+ years: See results from the investment in the Academy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Regularly compete for European places and try to win a cup. Aye, just trying to win cups would be great. Stay competitive top 8 in the division - superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Regularly compete for European places and try to win a cup. Is the right answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Didn't expect us to settle this so quickly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 win the leeg yi na :cheesy: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Challenge for the league title, cups, and Europe every year. Never understood the contentment with finishing top half or making it to the semi-finals of a cup competition. Guess fans of smaller clubs have to temper their expectations with the threat of relegation ever present, but the goal of any club should be to win first-and-foremost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Regularly compete for European places and try to win a cup. Bottom end of the success scale but... This with two additions. That we do it playing positive attacking football and in a Stadium that isn't covered in shit. It's one thing to accept our limitations as a club, but there's no excuse for not doing it in style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Challenge for the league title, cups, and Europe every year. Never understood the contentment with finishing top half or making it to the semi-finals of a cup competition. Guess fans of smaller clubs have to temper their expectations with the threat of relegation ever present, but the goal of any club should be to win first-and-foremost. How can we challenge for the title though? You must know that's impossible unless you spend mega money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Steady progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Challenge for the league title, cups, and Europe every year. Never understood the contentment with finishing top half or making it to the semi-finals of a cup competition. Guess fans of smaller clubs have to temper their expectations with the threat of relegation ever present, but the goal of any club should be to win first-and-foremost. How can we challenge for the title though? You must know that's impossible unless you spend mega money. It should still be the goal, even if it's not realistically attainable. I just don't accept the notion that I should be happy with a team that aims for anything less. What's the point otherwise? I suppose football itself does hold intrinsic value, but that's not enough to overcome the extrinsic value of the game either, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Steady progress. Agree, but I would also say that steady progress doesn't mean no setbacks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Challenge for the league title, cups, and Europe every year. Never understood the contentment with finishing top half or making it to the semi-finals of a cup competition. Guess fans of smaller clubs have to temper their expectations with the threat of relegation ever present, but the goal of any club should be to win first-and-foremost. How can we challenge for the title though? You must know that's impossible unless you spend mega money. It should still be the goal, even if it's not realistically attainable. Ah right, well I suppose in theory it is the goal, because we take part in a league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The financial side of football just feels like a massive bubble waiting to bust and if that happens then we could benefit but until then I can't really see us doing much when the people in charge keep appointing their friends as managers and only make important signings sporadically. I often wonder where we'd be with a chairman who backs his manager in the way other clubs do. Impossible to gauge really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejaxer Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Regularly compete for European places and try to win a cup. Pretty much this. Challenge for top 7/6 and try to grab a cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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