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Reading the last few pages....Are these posters on acid? It will be some English plod and Carroll will be the first singing. :)

 

Joe Kinnear and Mick Harford you mean..

 

Got carried away...:lol:

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Always thought Carver would get the job and even more so if he takes us down. 

 

If we stay up we'll hire a proper manager, if we go down he'll keep the job.

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Always thought Carver would get the job and even more so if he takes us down. 

 

If we stay up we'll hire a proper manager, if we go down he'll keep the job.

 

Why?

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I can see an argument for keeping Carver on regardless if we get relegated or not as Ashley is fucking clueless. What annoys me is he's shown everyone how fucking useless he is as manager/head coach/whatever and should never be given the chance again. If we stay up and he gets a full season he will piss money away and get us relegated next year. If we go down now then I have zero confidence in him being able to take us back up ever, no matter what he is given to spend.

 

Either way we must look elsewhere.

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Just want some hope for the future. Doesn't have to be a world class manager, doesn't have to be huge spending on world class players, far from it. But the club as it stands right now needs to be gutted in all aspects, a reasonable investment made in the coaching and playing staff and most importantly a change in direction from the top. A commitment to trying our best, trying to win every competition we enter. Everyone knows we'll not win but that isn't the point and never has been.

 

There's simply no sign of the requisite changes happening. No hope. And that's what kills me.

Never thought I'd be jealous of Boro - but in Aitor Karanka they've a young up and coming Manager.

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Just want some hope for the future. Doesn't have to be a world class manager, doesn't have to be huge spending on world class players, far from it. But the club as it stands right now needs to be gutted in all aspects, a reasonable investment made in the coaching and playing staff and most importantly a change in direction from the top. A commitment to trying our best, trying to win every competition we enter. Everyone knows we'll not win but that isn't the point and never has been.

 

There's simply no sign of the requisite changes happening. No hope. And that's what kills me.

 

Good post man. Agree with you.

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Just want some hope for the future. Doesn't have to be a world class manager, doesn't have to be huge spending on world class players, far from it. But the club as it stands right now needs to be gutted in all aspects, a reasonable investment made in the coaching and playing staff and most importantly a change in direction from the top. A commitment to trying our best, trying to win every competition we enter. Everyone knows we'll not win but that isn't the point and never has been.

 

There's simply no sign of the requisite changes happening. No hope. And that's what kills me.

Never thought I'd be jealous of Boro - but in Aitor Karanka they've a young up and coming Manager.

 

:thup:

 

He's a really likeable guy as well. Same can't be said about our last 2 managers.

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Just want some hope for the future. Doesn't have to be a world class manager, doesn't have to be huge spending on world class players, far from it. But the club as it stands right now needs to be gutted in all aspects, a reasonable investment made in the coaching and playing staff and most importantly a change in direction from the top. A commitment to trying our best, trying to win every competition we enter. Everyone knows we'll not win but that isn't the point and never has been.

 

There's simply no sign of the requisite changes happening. No hope. And that's what kills me.

Never thought I'd be jealous of Boro - but in Aitor Karanka they've a young up and coming Manager.

 

:thup:

 

He's a really likeable guy as well. Same can't be said about our last 2 managers.

 

They also have a likable owner who always do his best to support his team.

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Always thought Carver would get the job and even more so if he takes us down. 

 

If we stay up we'll hire a proper manager, if we go down he'll keep the job.

 

Why?

 

Just going off previous form. Ashley promoted Hughton from caretaker manager last time we went down. When we get relegated Ashley tends to cut costs even more, I can't see him investing in a new manager with that mindset.

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Just want some hope for the future. Doesn't have to be a world class manager, doesn't have to be huge spending on world class players, far from it. But the club as it stands right now needs to be gutted in all aspects, a reasonable investment made in the coaching and playing staff and most importantly a change in direction from the top. A commitment to trying our best, trying to win every competition we enter. Everyone knows we'll not win but that isn't the point and never has been.

 

There's simply no sign of the requisite changes happening. No hope. And that's what kills me.

Never thought I'd be jealous of Boro - but in Aitor Karanka they've a young up and coming Manager.

 

:thup:

 

He's a really likeable guy as well. Same can't be said about our last 2 managers.

 

Tbf our only likeable managers in the last 20 years have been Keegan, Sir Bobby and Hughton, the rest have been train wrecks. It's always, always been our problem. Ashley needs to get this right and the rest can fall into place, hire someone good and give him free reign on where HE wants to take us. Don't tell him no cups, no Europe,  let him try and take the club as far as he can on whatever financial constraints he has. I don't think half of our players are as bad as they are right now, they just need a leader and direction.

 

Not saying this summer is the real test because I lost that hope a long time ago, but a good managerial appointment can change the face of an entire club. If it is Carver, whatever the league, I'm done.

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