Who would you go for?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I hate living in London on a Monday morning. All the Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd fans discussing how great they are.

[Guest Roger Kint]

I hate living in London on a Monday morning. All the Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd fans discussing how great they are.

 

All their woes wil be forgotten now they beat a shit team at home. Chelsea fans will be rightly smug mind

[Guest]

 

Tuchel was absolutely fantastic for Mainz last season but isn't there some sort of issue with his contract? He was supposed to be joining Stuggart but I haven't been following the Bundesliga too closely to see what happened there.

 

I'm s*** scared we'll end up with Moyes after reading Rio's article about him this morning. He sounds exactly like the type of manager we have now. According to Rio they always worked on stopping the opposition and negative tactics which rubbed off on the players. His training restricted what they could do any they had no confidence to express themselves going forward. It sounds frighteningly familiar to what has happened to us.

 

I do remember reading something about his contract when he left Mainz, but I am not sure what the deal is there.  He sounds like just the kind of manager we should be looking at though.

 

I think the contract issues are sorted now. He's been heavily linked with the Hamburg job over the past couple of days.

[Howayaye501]

I've worked out who our next manager is already, using Ashley's tried and trusted criteria.

 

Shit - tick!

Cockney - tick!

No-one else in their right mind would employ him at a Premier League club - tick!

Will come on the cheap - tick!

Used to manage West Ham - tick!

Used to manage Charlton - tick!

First name Alan - tick!

 

Got it yet?

[KaKa]

Rio Ferdinand has hit out at David Moyes’s tactics as Manchester United manager, claiming some of them were “embarrassing”.

 

The former England and United defender has set out a string of criticisms of Moyes’s ill-fated reign at Old Trafford in his autobiography #2 sides.

 

Ferdinand said the players became confused about how Moyes wanted them to play.

 

“Moyes’s innovations mostly led to negativity and confusion,” he said in an extract from the book, which is being serialised in The Sun.

 

He added: “The biggest confusion was over how he wanted us to move the ball forward. Often he told us to play it long. Some players felt they kicked the ball long more than at any time in their career.

 

“Sometimes our main tactic was the long, high, diagonal cross. It was embarrassing. In one home game against Fulham we had 81 crosses! I was thinking, why are we doing this? Andy Carroll doesn’t play for us!

 

“The whole approach was alien. Other times Moyes wanted lots of passing. He’d say: 'Today I want us to have 600 passes in the game. Last week it was only 400’. Who cares? I’d rather score five goals from 10 passes.”

 

Ferdinand, who left United for Queens Park Rangers in the summer, said Moyes brought the “mentality of a small club” to Old Trafford. He revealed one of the first signs of future problems was when Moyes banned the players from their ritual of eating low-fat chips on the night before a game.

 

Ferdinand also disclosed his upset at being left out of the United side that played Bayern Munich in the Champions League.

 

He said Moyes took the players to a park to practice their set-pieces, which he said was "bizarre".

 

"It was amateurish," he said. "I mean, why not just send Bayern an email or a DVD"

 

And as they were standing in public, Moyes told Ferdinand he would not be playing as he wanted a bit more pace in defence.

 

"It killed me," Ferdinand said. "Inside I wanted to scream and grab him. I'm a team player, so I just had to bite my tongue and stand there. But it was probably the worst single moment I ever had at United.

 

"I'd never been dropped for a big game like that - and to drop that on me in front of everybody."

 

[Ronaldo]

Weird Ferdinand would criticise the first manager to tell him he wasn't good enough to play at the highest level any longer.

[TRon]

Rio Ferdinand has hit out at David Moyes’s tactics as Manchester United manager, claiming some of them were “embarrassing”.

 

The former England and United defender has set out a string of criticisms of Moyes’s ill-fated reign at Old Trafford in his autobiography #2 sides.

 

Ferdinand said the players became confused about how Moyes wanted them to play.

 

“Moyes’s innovations mostly led to negativity and confusion,” he said in an extract from the book, which is being serialised in The Sun.

 

He added: “The biggest confusion was over how he wanted us to move the ball forward. Often he told us to play it long. Some players felt they kicked the ball long more than at any time in their career.

 

“Sometimes our main tactic was the long, high, diagonal cross. It was embarrassing. In one home game against Fulham we had 81 crosses! I was thinking, why are we doing this? Andy Carroll doesn’t play for us!

 

“The whole approach was alien. Other times Moyes wanted lots of passing. He’d say: 'Today I want us to have 600 passes in the game. Last week it was only 400’. Who cares? I’d rather score five goals from 10 passes.”

 

Ferdinand, who left United for Queens Park Rangers in the summer, said Moyes brought the “mentality of a small club” to Old Trafford. He revealed one of the first signs of future problems was when Moyes banned the players from their ritual of eating low-fat chips on the night before a game.

 

Ferdinand also disclosed his upset at being left out of the United side that played Bayern Munich in the Champions League.

 

He said Moyes took the players to a park to practice their set-pieces, which he said was "bizarre".

 

"It was amateurish," he said. "I mean, why not just send Bayern an email or a DVD"

 

And as they were standing in public, Moyes told Ferdinand he would not be playing as he wanted a bit more pace in defence.

 

"It killed me," Ferdinand said. "Inside I wanted to scream and grab him. I'm a team player, so I just had to bite my tongue and stand there. But it was probably the worst single moment I ever had at United.

 

"I'd never been dropped for a big game like that - and to drop that on me in front of everybody."

 

 

Hope Ronaldo doesn't see this, he'll be calling Ferdinand worse than shit for daring to suggest Moyes was out of his league with his small club mentality.

[TRon]

Too late!

[summerof69]

I've worked out who our next manager is already, using Ashley's tried and trusted criteria.

 

s*** - tick!

Cockney - tick!

No-one else in their right mind would employ him at a Premier League club - tick!

Will come on the cheap - tick!

Used to manage West Ham - tick!

Used to manage Charlton - tick!

First name Alan - tick!

 

Got it yet?

 

 

Curbishley ? Not my ideal choice, though preferable to Pardew

[steve_69]

The contrast between Fergie and Moyes was always going to be difficult for the Man Utd players to deal with, and the fact that Moyes has never won anything but wanted to change a setup and style of playing that had delivered so much silverware innevitably led to failure.

 

However, the contrast between Pardew and Moyes would be equally massive. Moyes might not be a manager who is particularly forward thinking in his approach to the game but he would be an upgrade on Pardew in every sense - coaching, tactics, player progression, professionalism, communication etc.

 

 

[Memphis]

Anyone who would turn their nose up at Moyes at this point is fucking delusional.

 

Compared to Pardew, he's Mourinho + Ancelotti + Ferguson x10.

[Ronaldo]

Hope Ronaldo doesn't see this, he'll be calling Ferdinand worse than shit for daring to suggest Moyes was out of his league with his small club mentality.

 

Do you downplay Moyes so much because you once said you'd keep Pardew over hiring him?

 

[r0cafella]

Ron, the man who never forgets. 

[HawK]

I've said Moyes is Pardew version 2.0, improved but still short sighted. Would take him in a heartbeat if the choice is Moyes or Pardew for another 2 years. But would much rather (pipe dream) another manager, if Hoddle could ever work under Ashley for example.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I've said Moyes is Pardew version 2.0, improved but still short sighted. Would take him in a heartbeat if the choice is Moyes or Pardew for another 2 years. But would much rather (pipe dream) another manager, if Hoddle could ever work under Ashley for example.

 

Same feelings for me, I would 'take Moyes' but if I had the choice I would go for someone more positive and progressive.

[Foluwashola]

Is Moyes a notoriously negative coach now? Personally always looked forward to watching his Everton teams play. He is a class above the likes of Pardew, Pulis and Fat Head.

[AlanSkÃrare]

Is Moyes a notoriously negative coach now? Personally always looked forward to watching his Everton teams play. He is a class above the likes of Pardew, Pulis and Fat Head.

 

He made Manchester United defend 1-0 leads. I'm sort of done watching that.

[Ronaldo]

Is Moyes a notoriously negative coach now? Personally always looked forward to watching his Everton teams play. He is a class above the likes of Pardew, Pulis and Fat Head.

 

Apparently you finish 4th, 5th and 6th multiple times with a totally penniless Everton by playing boring, negative football. They just add on 10 wins at the end of the season as fan compensation.

[La Parka]

He won't pay the wages for moyes. He was on 4m at Everton. 8x pards wage. It'll be that guy who got sacked from leeds or some other no name jobber.

[r0cafella]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4560310/Alan-Pardew-signs-eight-year-contract-at-Newcastle.html

 

ALAN PARDEW has been handed an amazing EIGHT-YEAR deal by Newcastle worth £25million.

 

Anyone got a better source to disprove this figure? I know the Sun is garbage but I'm yet to see anyone else present a sourced version of his salary from the time the contract was signed.

[TRon]

Hope Ronaldo doesn't see this, he'll be calling Ferdinand worse than shit for daring to suggest Moyes was out of his league with his small club mentality.

 

Do you downplay Moyes so much because you once said you'd keep Pardew over hiring him?

 

 

What I said was what is the point of sacking Pardew if we are going to bring in another dour manager. Moyes is not the manager I would want for all the reasons Ferdinand has highlighted. There are lots of foreign coaches with much better playing philosophies that would suit our players better.

[Ronaldo]

I'd prefer a manager prepared to tell the owner we need some players fit for PL purpose instead of cheap nothings from second-rate leagues.

[TRon]

I'd prefer a manager prepared to tell the owner we need some players fit for PL purpose instead of cheap nothings from second-rate leagues.

 

Southampton seem to have done okay hiring cheap nothings from second rate leagues.

[Ronaldo]

Mmm hmm.

[Hughesy]

I'd prefer a manager prepared to tell the owner we need some players fit for PL purpose instead of cheap nothings from second-rate leagues.

 

I don't think, on the whole, the players we have bought aren't fit for purpose.  A better manager would have made better use of the players we had last season and have this season.