mrmojorisin75 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 That appointment seems strange for Swansea, Moyes does not fit into their recent blueprint at all. That's what I thought mind. its not like Everton didn't play good football under moyes True enough I guess yeah But they have developed a specific style of playing and their stated policy is to recruit managers who fit that system rather than bringing in a manager with a different style. And Moyes definitely does not set up his teams in the Swansea way. But maybe they think that has run its course and want to shake things up. Yeah that's what everyone is saying really. He doesn't feel like he fits with their recent managerial recruits at all but maybe they're fancying him to take them up a level and try to establish themselves as a top 8 team. Ironically he's likely to be our only hope of not getting someone utterly s*** and unsuited to the club when McClaren is finally binned. I think the club would try for him but I am not sure if he would be interested. He would want guarantees and he would be unlikely to get them and I can't see him putting up with the current working conditions Ashley insists upon. Kind of what I mean as well. Assuming Ashley still covets him as manager he might be a strong enough character to make the twat agree to run the place like a fucking football club again. But I doubt it. There's certainly not much likelihood of Ashley ceding that kind of authority to anyone else without his proven record of working within budgets and selling players at a massive profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 But Moyes does have a track record of working within a budget and getting good fees for players. I'm undecided on Moyes, I was in Liverpool for a lot of his time at Everton and the fans loved him. I thought he was a man who could get a tune out of disinterested players for a while but lacked consistency (this was 2000 through 2005). He changed my mind towards the end of his time there. Before Smc I could see it working, now I think he might suffer the same and not be a big enough personality to turn the players around. Overall though I think I'd be willing to give it a chance and he would keep us up. Not a very inspiring choice though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 The players don't seem to have any respect for mcClaren, he is just a coach and not in overall control, if a player wants to leave or wants a new contract then they won't go to him. His job at Newcastle is to coach the assets to get the best possible price, the players know this and have zero respect for him or the club. We need a manager at Newcastle not mcClaren, however I still think it's too late because the rot has set in and Ashley's poor management of the club will result in him missing out on the biggest ever tv deal next season and for some strange reason that makes me quite happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 It'll show that his dogshit business ethics don't work in this field and the fat cunt can it some 100% fact humble pie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Douglas reckons they may move for moyes and he'd be interested to talk to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Really don't want Moyes, absolutely dreadful in his past two jobs. Unfortunately, I think he's exactly the person Ashley would go for if McClaren did walk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 But Moyes does have a track record of working within a budget and getting good fees for players. I'm undecided on Moyes, I was in Liverpool for a lot of his time at Everton and the fans loved him. I thought he was a man who could get a tune out of disinterested players for a while but lacked consistency (this was 2000 through 2005). He changed my mind towards the end of his time there. Before Smc I could see it working, now I think he might suffer the same and not be a big enough personality to turn the players around. Overall though I think I'd be willing to give it a chance and he would keep us up. Not a very inspiring choice though That's why Moyes might be perfect for him if Ashley will bend the system a little, he doesn't want inspiring he wants Evertons later Moyes - top half on a shoestring with no complications so he can keep dredging in the cash and advertising his shop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I think Moyes would be about the best we could get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Douglas reckons they may move for moyes and he'd be interested to talk to us. If there's any truth in this, it's thoroughly depressing if respected managers like Moyes (and McClaren to be fair to him as well) are still interested in talking to NUFC when every man and his dog know how we operate and treat people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 The players don't seem to have any respect for mcClaren, he is just a coach and not in overall control, if a player wants to leave or wants a new contract then they won't go to him. His job at Newcastle is to coach the assets to get the best possible price, the players know this and have zero respect for him or the club. We need a manager at Newcastle not mcClaren, however I still think it's too late because the rot has set in and Ashley's poor management of the club will result in him missing out on the biggest ever tv deal next season and for some strange reason that makes me quite happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 That appointment seems strange for Swansea, Moyes does not fit into their recent blueprint at all. It's like the Allardyce appointment at sunderland. Priorities change when you are facing the drop. Right Swansea are looking for a manager who will keep them up and Moyes might play boring football but he knows how to build a solid side without a lot of money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Douglas reckons they may move for moyes and he'd be interested to talk to us. If there's any truth in this, it's thoroughly depressing if respected managers like Moyes (and McClaren to be fair to him as well) are still interested in talking to NUFC when every man and his dog know how we operate and treat people. The thing is they will meet with the board and will probably be promised things and managers always think that once they have their foot inside the door, they will be able to make things happen. However, they don't realise that our lot lie through their teeth and they will not be allowed to do anything but coach the team. I think McClaren has already found that out - he started off being hopeful of changing things but is hitting brick wall and there have been reports that Ashley is not impressed by the demands to buy certain types of players in January. Ultimately, it is all down to what Ashley wants and the remit will only be changed if he is willing to change it. Even then, they might relent a little to try and stave off relegation but if they survive, you can see them then going back to the blueprint and the cycle starts all over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Charnley " right lads I'd like to start this board meeting with the first thing on the agenda, how can we get rid of the head coach for as least money as possible and who is the cheapest replacement ? " McClaren " eh !! " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Looks like not getting Remi Garde may be a good thing, he's shown nothing so far that he's going to be able to keep Villa up. He hasn't given the players belief or confidence, they don't look organised and they are not scoring either. As it stands now (up to HT today) P 5 W 0 D 2 (Man City & Southampton) L 3 (Everton, Watford & Arsenal) Scored: 3 Conceded: 11 Points 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Looks like not getting Remi Garde may be a good thing, he's shown nothing so far that he's going to be able to keep Villa up. He hasn't given the players belief or confidence, they don't look organised and they are not scoring either. As it stands now (up to HT today) P 5 W 0 D 2 (Man City & Southampton) L 3 (Everton, Watford & Arsenal) Scored: 3 Conceded: 11 Points 2 Have you seen their squad? Don't think anyone would keep then up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Back here again........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Any other cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag_in_NZ Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 AOC (Bielsa) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Don't hold your breath on a replacement unless we lose 0-5 v WBA... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Does losing 1-5 to Chelsea count? Hope the poll can be reset like. Atleast we can dream of proper managers in charge at SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Poll reset Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Think we need a few new options to vote on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Rafa needs to be added, surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 trolley rapist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Would honestly take almost anyone on a temporary basis. Need either a proper manager and/or someone who can motivate. Right now we have neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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