SEMTEX Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Terrible decision making all round regarding Thauvin. I remember feeling so optimistic when he signed about what he may bring to the team. Unsurprising, I remember given it was like two minutes ago! Sadly, it's not our decision. He is the one who wants to leave, rightly or wrongly, because of the stick he received at Watford. Yep, no going back now. Couldn't possibly find a way to remedy this situation. He is of course the first footballer ever to have a questionable temperament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Terrible decision making all round regarding Thauvin. I remember feeling so optimistic when he signed about what he may bring to the team. Unsurprising, I remember given it was like two minutes ago! Sadly, it's not our decision. He is the one who wants to leave, rightly or wrongly, because of the stick he received at Watford. While I thought that stick was disgusting, I don't think he can hide behind that if he wants to get away. Anyone who has such a fragile temperament has no place at a club like Newcastle anyway. It's a shame because the lad clearly has talent but found the pace of the premier league too fast for his liking. I'm not sure I'm following this at all like, Thauvin has just decided he can't deal with the stick he got and he has to leave so the club are just saying "aye no bother" and spending £12m to replace him then letting him go wherever he wants while presumably still covering his wages to a degree and then maybe flogging him for a massive loss after a few more months? Which is what they just did with Cabella. All seems incredibly one sided to me and I'm rather amazed that the club like Thauvin so much to give him exactly what he wants at the cost of £12m. He must be a really nice kid I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Think we'll break even on cabella after amortisation... if the fees mentioned are right. Will have to get £9m+ for Thauvin for that to be true in his case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Terrible decision making all round regarding Thauvin. I remember feeling so optimistic when he signed about what he may bring to the team. Unsurprising, I remember given it was like two minutes ago! Sadly, it's not our decision. He is the one who wants to leave, rightly or wrongly, because of the stick he received at Watford. While I thought that stick was disgusting, I don't think he can hide behind that if he wants to get away. Anyone who has such a fragile temperament has no place at a club like Newcastle anyway. It's a shame because the lad clearly has talent but found the pace of the premier league too fast for his liking. I'm not sure I'm following this at all like, Thauvin has just decided he can't deal with the stick he got and he has to leave so the club are just saying "aye no bother" and spending £12m to replace him then letting him go wherever he wants while presumably still covering his wages to a degree and then maybe flogging him for a massive loss after a few more months? Which is what they just did with Cabella. All seems incredibly one sided to me and I'm rather amazed that the club like Thauvin so much to give him exactly what he wants at the cost of £12m. He must be a really nice kid I guess. Or maybe he just doesn't want to be here, doesn't like being tackled and wants to follow his girlfriend back on the next flight to Paris, Marseilles or whichever stylish French region he hails from. In any case, he's only going out on loan, maybe he will get to try again here next season assuming he's got the appetite for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Terrible decision making all round regarding Thauvin. I remember feeling so optimistic when he signed about what he may bring to the team. Unsurprising, I remember given it was like two minutes ago! Sadly, it's not our decision. He is the one who wants to leave, rightly or wrongly, because of the stick he received at Watford. While I thought that stick was disgusting, I don't think he can hide behind that if he wants to get away. Anyone who has such a fragile temperament has no place at a club like Newcastle anyway. It's a shame because the lad clearly has talent but found the pace of the premier league too fast for his liking. I'm not sure I'm following this at all like, Thauvin has just decided he can't deal with the stick he got and he has to leave so the club are just saying "aye no bother" and spending £12m to replace him then letting him go wherever he wants while presumably still covering his wages to a degree and then maybe flogging him for a massive loss after a few more months? Which is what they just did with Cabella. All seems incredibly one sided to me and I'm rather amazed that the club like Thauvin so much to give him exactly what he wants at the cost of £12m. He must be a really nice kid I guess. Or maybe he just doesn't want to be here, doesn't like being tackled and wants to follow his girlfriend back on the next flight to Paris, Marseilles or whichever stylish French region he hails from. In any case, he's only going out on loan, maybe he will get to try again here next season assuming he's got the appetite for it. The point being it's not a one sided arrangement Tron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Terrible decision making all round regarding Thauvin. I remember feeling so optimistic when he signed about what he may bring to the team. Unsurprising, I remember given it was like two minutes ago! Sadly, it's not our decision. He is the one who wants to leave, rightly or wrongly, because of the stick he received at Watford. While I thought that stick was disgusting, I don't think he can hide behind that if he wants to get away. Anyone who has such a fragile temperament has no place at a club like Newcastle anyway. It's a shame because the lad clearly has talent but found the pace of the premier league too fast for his liking. I'm not sure I'm following this at all like, Thauvin has just decided he can't deal with the stick he got and he has to leave so the club are just saying "aye no bother" and spending £12m to replace him then letting him go wherever he wants while presumably still covering his wages to a degree and then maybe flogging him for a massive loss after a few more months? Which is what they just did with Cabella. All seems incredibly one sided to me and I'm rather amazed that the club like Thauvin so much to give him exactly what he wants at the cost of £12m. He must be a really nice kid I guess. Or maybe he just doesn't want to be here, doesn't like being tackled and wants to follow his girlfriend back on the next flight to Paris, Marseilles or whichever stylish French region he hails from. In any case, he's only going out on loan, maybe he will get to try again here next season assuming he's got the appetite for it. The point being it's not a one sided arrangement Tron. It is mate, if he won't do the basics on the pitch. I've no idea what he does in training, but in the games he's played he's looked like he didn't fancy it at all giving the ball up at the slightest challenge. Wijnaldum has had his critics for disappearing from games but one thing which is obvious about him is that he protects the ball fiercely when he receives it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 He's been badly treated TBH, but if the Watford thing is affecting him he needs to grow a spine. This 100%. Hardly the sort of character you want for a relegation battle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Why are we saying he doesn't do the basics on the pitch? He looked absolutely fine most of the time, he just wasn't quick and struggled to beat his man consistently enough, given that he only started 4 games and then was thrown on for the final 20 seconds every game in between that I think it's fair to say he might have gotten a bit better. Along with Mbiwa he's the worst we've handled a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I think he should go like, McClaren doesn't want him so it's pointless him sticking round. It's a huge black mark on his record though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Terrible decision making all round regarding Thauvin. I remember feeling so optimistic when he signed about what he may bring to the team. Unsurprising, I remember given it was like two minutes ago! Sadly, it's not our decision. He is the one who wants to leave, rightly or wrongly, because of the stick he received at Watford. While I thought that stick was disgusting, I don't think he can hide behind that if he wants to get away. Anyone who has such a fragile temperament has no place at a club like Newcastle anyway. It's a shame because the lad clearly has talent but found the pace of the premier league too fast for his liking. I'm not sure I'm following this at all like, Thauvin has just decided he can't deal with the stick he got and he has to leave so the club are just saying "aye no bother" and spending £12m to replace him then letting him go wherever he wants while presumably still covering his wages to a degree and then maybe flogging him for a massive loss after a few more months? Which is what they just did with Cabella. All seems incredibly one sided to me and I'm rather amazed that the club like Thauvin so much to give him exactly what he wants at the cost of £12m. He must be a really nice kid I guess. Or maybe he just doesn't want to be here, doesn't like being tackled and wants to follow his girlfriend back on the next flight to Paris, Marseilles or whichever stylish French region he hails from. In any case, he's only going out on loan, maybe he will get to try again here next season assuming he's got the appetite for it. The point being it's not a one sided arrangement Tron. It is mate, if he won't do the basics on the pitch. I've no idea what he does in training, but in the games he's played he's looked like he didn't fancy it at all giving the ball up at the slightest challenge. Wijnaldum has had his critics for disappearing from games but one thing which is obvious about him is that he protects the ball fiercely when he receives it. I haven't seen any of his later appearances but he certainly didn't look that way when he first signed. I just find it awfully convenient that after a bit of stick the club are letting him piss off apparently at his own request which allows them to sign ready made inglish talent like Townsend. Hopefully AT comes in and does very well as that will gloss nicely over how badly we've managed to integrate a young foreign player into an absolutely shite team in the last 6 months. But yeah it could be entirely down to Thauvin himself, however given what I've seen of the club and its management I'm inclined to believe otherwise personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 He's been badly treated TBH, but if the Watford thing is affecting him he needs to grow a spine. He's not going to get better sitting on the Bench. Must be soul destroying seeing Gouff getting on the pitch ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 He's been badly treated TBH, but if the Watford thing is affecting him he needs to grow a spine. He's not going to get better sitting on the Bench. Must be soul destroying seeing Gouff getting on the pitch ahead of him. Agreed, I know we can't exactly give him a compelling reason to stay. Would just be nice if he had the spirit to not give up so easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 He's been badly treated TBH, but if the Watford thing is affecting him he needs to grow a spine. He's not going to get better sitting on the Bench. Must be soul destroying seeing Gouff getting on the pitch ahead of him. Agreed, I know we can't exactly give him a compelling reason to stay. Would just be nice if he had the spirit to not give up so easily. Keegan would have got him playing. He'll be another Ben Arfa - we'll let him go and he'll turn into a world beater. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 He's been badly treated TBH, but if the Watford thing is affecting him he needs to grow a spine. He's not going to get better sitting on the Bench. Must be soul destroying seeing Gouff getting on the pitch ahead of him. Agreed, I know we can't exactly give him a compelling reason to stay. Would just be nice if he had the spirit to not give up so easily. Keegan would have got him playing. He'll be another Ben Arfa - we'll let him go and he'll turn into a world beater. I wouldn't be surprised (although he's half the player HBA is). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 He's been badly treated TBH, but if the Watford thing is affecting him he needs to grow a spine. He's not going to get better sitting on the Bench. Must be soul destroying seeing Gouff getting on the pitch ahead of him. Agreed, I know we can't exactly give him a compelling reason to stay. Would just be nice if he had the spirit to not give up so easily. Keegan would have got him playing. He'll be another Ben Arfa - we'll let him go and he'll turn into a world beater. Different situation to Ben Arfa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 He's been badly treated TBH, but if the Watford thing is affecting him he needs to grow a spine. He's not going to get better sitting on the Bench. Must be soul destroying seeing Gouff getting on the pitch ahead of him. Agreed, I know we can't exactly give him a compelling reason to stay. Would just be nice if he had the spirit to not give up so easily. Keegan would have got him playing. He'll be another Ben Arfa - we'll let him go and he'll turn into a world beater. I wouldn't be surprised (although he's half the player HBA is). Personally I hope we keep him for another season as I recon he'll come good - he's just unfortunate that we're in a relegation battle so they're not allowing him the chance to get to grips with the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 He's been badly treated TBH, but if the Watford thing is affecting him he needs to grow a spine. He's not going to get better sitting on the Bench. Must be soul destroying seeing Gouff getting on the pitch ahead of him. Agreed, I know we can't exactly give him a compelling reason to stay. Would just be nice if he had the spirit to not give up so easily. Keegan would have got him playing. He'll be another Ben Arfa - we'll let him go and he'll turn into a world beater. Ben Arfa was tough as nails, there's no comparison. As if Thauvin would ever have his leg snapped in half then still raise his hand to the crowd while being carried off on a stretcher on an oxygen machine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Maybe Thauvin comes back into the equation when we sell Sissoko in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Goodbye Sweet Prince. Leave your missus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 So we spent literally years chasing this guy and then we give up on him after a handful of appearances? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 He's been badly treated TBH, but if the Watford thing is affecting him he needs to grow a spine. He's not going to get better sitting on the Bench. Must be soul destroying seeing Gouff getting on the pitch ahead of him. To be fair it's soul destroying for me watching Gouff on the pitch ahead of me, and I'm a fat talentless lazy arsehole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/newcastle-agree-to-let-florian-thauvin-leave-on-loan/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Terrible decision making all round regarding Thauvin. I remember feeling so optimistic when he signed about what he may bring to the team. Unsurprising, I remember given it was like two minutes ago! Sadly, it's not our decision. He is the one who wants to leave, rightly or wrongly, because of the stick he received at Watford. While I thought that stick was disgusting, I don't think he can hide behind that if he wants to get away. Anyone who has such a fragile temperament has no place at a club like Newcastle anyway. It's a shame because the lad clearly has talent but found the pace of the premier league too fast for his liking. I'm not sure I'm following this at all like, Thauvin has just decided he can't deal with the stick he got and he has to leave so the club are just saying "aye no bother" and spending £12m to replace him then letting him go wherever he wants while presumably still covering his wages to a degree and then maybe flogging him for a massive loss after a few more months? Which is what they just did with Cabella. All seems incredibly one sided to me and I'm rather amazed that the club like Thauvin so much to give him exactly what he wants at the cost of £12m. He must be a really nice kid I guess. Or maybe he just doesn't want to be here, doesn't like being tackled and wants to follow his girlfriend back on the next flight to Paris, Marseilles or whichever stylish French region he hails from. In any case, he's only going out on loan, maybe he will get to try again here next season assuming he's got the appetite for it. The point being it's not a one sided arrangement Tron. It kind of is though isn't it. Being a footballer is no different to having any other job in a lot of ways, and at the end of the day they're just people. In your line of work, would you kick up a fuss and resign / ask for a transfer to a different office etc if you hated where you are? Ah the old compare it to working in an office argument. The only way it's that one sided is if he's gone on strike or refused to play imo. Perhaps you know more about the behind the scenes efforts to integrate the lad but the on field efforts have been laughable, as they have with many other young foreign players we've signed. But aye it could all be them I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Didn't want to come. Isn't very good. Doesn't get picked. Wants to leave. Awful signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I agree with TCD...... What a waste of time and money. Guilt should be apportioned to both sides. But it was constantly mentioned that he didn't want to come here and that he hadn't even been playing well in France. Yet we spunked a lot of money on him anyway. Then proceeded to not play him for whatever reason. Now he's off 6 months. What a mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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