colinmk Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Sam Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Still can't believe this fucking halfwit is our manager. 7 more years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 The fucker is seeing into some bizarro universe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Giggs? Sausage Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Now that he's been assured of his job its like he's trying to troll all of us as hard as he can. Or he's really that stupid, I don't know anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Giggs? Sausage Jon I liked the bit at the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 If there's to be little (or no) change in Pardew's preparation (for matches:priority given to team shape aimed at nullafying other teams) we may as well approach Pulis, and have him join the coaching ranks as Pardew's no.2. Very few managers (at least in Britain) coach a rigid, deep-sitting (defensively minded) tactical set-up better than Pulis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 If there's to be little (or no) change in Pardew's preparation (for matches:priority given to team shape aimed at nullafying other teams) we may as well approach Pulis, and have him join the coaching ranks as Pardew's no.2. Very few managers (at least in Britain) coach a rigid, deep-sitting (defensively minded) tactical set-up better than Pulis. I said this before (tongue in cheek) but there really is some merit in it. Pulis is probably better at the kind of strategy that, if we're honest, we know AP favours. He could do with some help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Are you actually serious, or is this just another way to emphasise how much you dislike Pardew? Pulis as assistant FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 someone needs to help the cunt out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 No need to be nasty about other posters, Mojo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Are you actually serious, or is this just another way to emphasise how much you dislike Pardew? Pulis as assistant FFS. - imagine the sore necks. High kicking football ftw, we would be the best at the hoofy hoof game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 christ alls we need is a coach who can teach pardew how to play counter-attacking football effectively...well not teach pardew more usurp him and then take over pardew could have his safety first approach if he wants, he just needs to adapt it into something effective instead of something limp and impotent as we had last season...and don't anyone bring up the 5th finish as that won't be repeated, i'll bet my fucking house on that we've a good set of players for a counter-attacking game imo, if coached properly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 christ alls we need is a coach who can teach pardew how to play counter-attacking football effectively...well not teach pardew more usurp him and then take over pardew could have his safety first approach if he wants, he just needs to adapt it into something effective instead of something limp and impotent as we had last season...and don't anyone bring up the 5th finish as that won't be repeated, i'll bet my f***ing house on that we've a good set of players for a counter-attacking game imo, if coached properly I think if we had someone other than Jonas on the team we'd actually be a decent possession based side. Not the managers ethos though. He likes going forward quickly rather than the probing approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I think this idea that Pardew wants to play crap football (like Pulis) is a bit of a slur to be honest. Fair enough you're not happy with what happened this season but there have certainly been times when we've played good stuff under Pardew. Indeed in the past he's made comments about us wanting to play a more technical passing game and only this week was saying he wants us to play with attacking full backs. Also having tall players isn't necessarily contradictory to playing good football - Bayern's CB pairing last weekend was Dante (6ft 2in) and Boateng (6ft 4in). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 christ alls we need is a coach who can teach pardew how to play counter-attacking football effectively...well not teach pardew more usurp him and then take over pardew could have his safety first approach if he wants, he just needs to adapt it into something effective instead of something limp and impotent as we had last season...and don't anyone bring up the 5th finish as that won't be repeated, i'll bet my f***ing house on that we've a good set of players for a counter-attacking game imo, if coached properly I think if we had someone other than Jonas on the team we'd actually be a decent possession based side. Not the managers ethos though. He likes going forward quickly rather than the probing approach. no reason he couldn't have it that way, it'd have to be something he stumbles on rather than develops like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I think this idea that Pardew wants to play crap football (like Pulis) is a bit of a slur to be honest. Fair enough you're not happy with what happened this season but there have certainly been times when we've played good stuff under Pardew. Indeed in the past he's made comments about us wanting to play a more technical passing game and only this week was saying he wants us to play with attacking full backs. Also having tall players isn't necessarily contradictory to playing good football - Bayern's CB pairing last weekend was Dante (6ft 2in) and Boateng (6ft 4in). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I think this idea that Pardew wants to play crap football (like Pulis) is a bit of a slur to be honest. Fair enough you're not happy with what happened this season but there have certainly been times when we've played good stuff under Pardew. Indeed in the past he's made comments about us wanting to play a more technical passing game and only this week was saying he wants us to play with attacking full backs. Also having tall players isn't necessarily contradictory to playing good football - Bayern's CB pairing last weekend was Dante (6ft 2in) and Boateng (6ft 4in). I agree but I was too scared to post this myself! His style is safety-first and conservative a lot of the time, but I don't think he's a long ball manager or much like Pulis at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I think this idea that Pardew wants to play crap football (like Pulis) is a bit of a slur to be honest. Fair enough you're not happy with what happened this season but there have certainly been times when we've played good stuff under Pardew. Indeed in the past he's made comments about us wanting to play a more technical passing game and only this week was saying he wants us to play with attacking full backs. Also having tall players isn't necessarily contradictory to playing good football - Bayern's CB pairing last weekend was Dante (6ft 2in) and Boateng (6ft 4in). I agree but I was too scared to post this myself! His style is safety-first and conservative a lot of the time, but I don't think he's a long ball manager or much like Pulis at all. he doesn't have a style man bolded is all he know and favours, football firmly comes second, and as we're seeing if you don't coach good players into playing football as a team they rapidly become a nervous pile of shit and resort to treating the ball like a hot potato Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I think this idea that Pardew wants to play crap football (like Pulis) is a bit of a slur to be honest. Fair enough you're not happy with what happened this season but there have certainly been times when we've played good stuff under Pardew. Indeed in the past he's made comments about us wanting to play a more technical passing game and only this week was saying he wants us to play with attacking full backs. Also having tall players isn't necessarily contradictory to playing good football - Bayern's CB pairing last weekend was Dante (6ft 2in) and Boateng (6ft 4in). I agree but I was too scared to post this myself! His style is safety-first and conservative a lot of the time, but I don't think he's a long ball manager or much like Pulis at all. He actually said he wanted us to be on the front foot and get it forward early. Now, never mind long or not it means, and you can tell by watching, is that he likes to get it to the forwards at the first opportunity and you can tell (just by watching the last 70 odd games or so) that the forwards rarely have midfield support. Hence, when the ball goes forward quickly we don't hang on to it very well. Worked better with Ba, a lot worse without him but we persisted with it anyway and we'll persist with it next season. It can work if you have the players for it, which we don't, but maybe we'll replace 2 or 3 of a forward players for ones who can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I think this idea that Pardew wants to play crap football (like Pulis) is a bit of a slur to be honest. Fair enough you're not happy with what happened this season but there have certainly been times when we've played good stuff under Pardew. Indeed in the past he's made comments about us wanting to play a more technical passing game and only this week was saying he wants us to play with attacking full backs. Also having tall players isn't necessarily contradictory to playing good football - Bayern's CB pairing last weekend was Dante (6ft 2in) and Boateng (6ft 4in). I agree but I was too scared to post this myself! His style is safety-first and conservative a lot of the time, but I don't think he's a long ball manager or much like Pulis at all. he doesn't have a style man bolded is all he know and favours, football firmly comes second, and as we're seeing if you don't coach good players into playing football as a team they rapidly become a nervous pile of shit and resort to treating the ball like a hot potato Disagree with this (to an extent). Where I'll agree with you is that when our backs have been up against the wall this season (in terms of league position) he has certainly played conservatively, particularly away from home. I don't think that necessarily means that's how he wants us to play - I reckon that's largely him panicking about our league position and deciding he needs to get something rather than nothing. I think he does want to be more attack minded but he does need to improve his style. The Swansea and Sunderland home games come to mind as games where having gone behind we've actually thrown considerable numbers forward and been cut apart on the counter attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 We should train with the ball more. That would help imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 agree with lotus, if he has a style of play it's to fire it forward at the earliest opportunity which worked miles better with ba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 We should train with the ball more. That would help imho. they should play 5's from the moment they return to pre-season training...fitness and 5's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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