Jump to content
Newcastle-Online

Alan Pardew

Mike

by Mike
in Football

 Share

Recommended Posts

Guest

Guest

Posted
Posted

Europe and injuries were factors, not excuses imo. He failed big time with what he still had available.

 

How is a factor that causes you to under perform not an excuse?

 

Players he had available.

 

A. The players regularly weren't available - that's the point.

 

B. The fringe players are/were nowhere near good enough.

 

C. I still think he under performed - but there were numerous factors.

Europe and injuries were factors, not excuses imo. He failed big time with what he still had available.

 

How is a factor that causes you to under perform not an excuse?

 

Players he had available.

 

A. The players regularly weren't available - that's the point.

 

B. The fringe players are/were nowhere near good enough.

 

C. I still think he under performed - but there were numerous factors.

Europe and injuries were factors, not excuses imo. He failed big time with what he still had available.

 

How is a factor that causes you to under perform not an excuse?

 

Players he had available.

 

A. The players regularly weren't available - that's the point.

 

B. The fringe players are/were nowhere near good enough.

 

C. I still think he under performed - but there were numerous factors.

 

Were our fringe players any worse than the fringe players of clubs such as Swansea, Southampton and Norwich who finished above us?

 

Like I say, having Krul, Ben Arfa & Colo missing for periods were undoubtably factors as to why we struggled. Even with our tactics I reckon we'd have finished comfortably with those 3 playing even just an extra 3-4 games each. But Pardew still had decent players to set us up correctly, which he failed at.

Link to post
Share on other sites
TRon

TRon

Posted
Posted

I don't really want to harp on about Pardew's weaknesses right now, just don't want to hear blame deflected onto the players when there were a lot of things down to him. What's done is done, and we've had a decent start with some good fixtures coming up. This is a great chance for him to put last season behind him so let's see how things go.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Dave

Dave

Posted
Posted

I don't really want to harp on about Pardew's weaknesses right now, just don't want to hear blame deflected onto the players when there were a lot of things down to him. What's done is done, and we've had a decent start with some good fixtures coming up. This is a great chance for him to put last season behind him so let's see how things go.

 

:thup:

Link to post
Share on other sites
mrmojorisin75

mrmojorisin75

Posted
Posted

Those decision were born out of his fear of the opposition, that is a major thing with him. I actually think if he gets over that he might actually make a decent fist of it. But imo if we get a drubbing of someone he'll go back into his shell and start worrying solely about the opposition again.

 

i do wonder if the kinnear thing hasn't changed pardew's mindset somewhat - what i mean is perhaps he was so fearful all the time because he was ultimately worried about losing his job given it's the biggest he's ever had or is likely to get

 

what the summer has shown is that ashley won't sack him so perhaps with the addition of the kinnear humiliation he's just thought "fuck it, i might get sacked but at least i'll get a payoff so let's play some football"

 

wishful thinking no doubt, we'll see

Link to post
Share on other sites
Dave

Dave

Posted
Posted

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/20/alan-pardew-newcastle-united

Alan Pardew: Time for knee-jerk reactions at Newcastle United to stop

 

• Pardew unhappy with over-reaction to lack of summer signings

• Newcastle face Hull City with newly acquired optimism

 

    Louise Taylor

    The Guardian, Friday 20 September 2013 22.00 BST

 

 

Alan Pardew has denounced what he regards as increasingly knee-jerk reactions by media and fans. The Newcastle United manager believes the time has come to put a check on the growing hysteria surrounding the game.

 

"For us Premier League managers, it's about trying to keep everybody's feet firmly planted on the ground in reality, because some of the stuff that's said is just complete fantasy," said Pardew, who was deemed to be destined for the sack after his side lost heavily at Manchester City in their opening game of the season.

 

Despite behind-the-scenes confusion relating to Joe Kinnear's appointment as director of football and the club's failure to make a permanent summer signing, Pardew retains a strong team which has collected seven points from its last three games.

 

They are at home to Hull on Saturday with relgation talk replaced by optimism that Newcastle might qualify for Europe. "I never actually thought we were in as bad a situation as some people were suggesting in the media and even our own fans," said Pardew, who did acquire the France striker, Loïc Rémy, on loan from QPR.

 

"I thought there was an over-reaction to what happened in the summer but there always is with Newcastle. Whether it's good or bad, we get an over-reaction, and that's the way the media is with the Premier League as well.

 

"You have only got to look at Chelsea's defeat the other night and suddenly the writing is on the wall for José Mourinho and that team. It's rubbish, really.

 

"You do get setbacks and you just have to keep a level head. We have kept a level head all the way through. We think we've got a good side. I feel my side has more power to it, more offensive options this season."

 

As he worked on eradicating last season's flaws on the training ground throughout July and August there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth outside the gates. "The extremes of the media are ridiculous at the moment," said Pardew. "I really feel that. "I was watching the BBC 10pm news on Wednesday night and Chelsea is a major story – they'd lost a game in Europe in a group from which it looks to me they'll qualify comfortably from."These real swings between 'we're going to have a great season' and 'we're going to go down' are even more highlighted at this club for whatever reason. Therefore it's important for me to keep the team on the ground and for the team to keep their feet on the ground.

 

"You can't ignore the media, it's constantly in your face, whenever you turn on the TV. It's Jamie Redknapp talking about the 'crisis' at Arsenal but then suddenly they've won four on the spin and 10 away on the trot. I don't know what the crisis is? Before that Champions league qualifying game they had at the start of the season, Arsene Wenger's job was 'on the line'. Come on, it's ridiculous."

 

Cheeky cunt.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest

Guest

Posted
Posted

Cutting through the bullshit and just looking at his quotes...

 

"For us Premier League managers, it's about trying to keep everybody's feet firmly planted on the ground in reality, because some of the stuff that's said is just complete fantasy,"

"I never actually thought we were in as bad a situation as some people were suggesting in the media and even our own fans,"

"I thought there was an over-reaction to what happened in the summer but there always is with Newcastle. Whether it's good or bad, we get an over-reaction, and that's the way the media is with the Premier League as well. "You have only got to look at Chelsea's defeat the other night and suddenly the writing is on the wall for José Mourinho and that team. It's rubbish, really.

 

"You do get setbacks and you just have to keep a level head. We have kept a level head all the way through. We think we've got a good side. I feel my side has more power to it, more offensive options this season."

 

"The extremes of the media are ridiculous at the moment," said Pardew. "I really feel that. "I was watching the BBC 10pm news on Wednesday night and Chelsea is a major story – they'd lost a game in Europe in a group from which it looks to me they'll qualify comfortably from."These real swings between 'we're going to have a great season' and 'we're going to go down' are even more highlighted at this club for whatever reason. Therefore it's important for me to keep the team on the ground and for the team to keep their feet on the ground.

 

"You can't ignore the media, it's constantly in your face, whenever you turn on the TV. It's Jamie Redknapp talking about the 'crisis' at Arsenal but then suddenly they've won four on the spin and 10 away on the trot. I don't know what the crisis is? Before that Champions league qualifying game they had at the start of the season, Arsene Wenger's job was 'on the line'. Come on, it's ridiculous."

 

 

Not too sure what he's said wrong there tbh, other than potentially the "over-reaction to what happened in the summer". The rest is spot on.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Cajun

Cajun

Posted
Posted

Cutting through the bullshit and just looking at his quotes...

 

"For us Premier League managers, it's about trying to keep everybody's feet firmly planted on the ground in reality, because some of the stuff that's said is just complete fantasy,"

"I never actually thought we were in as bad a situation as some people were suggesting in the media and even our own fans,"

"I thought there was an over-reaction to what happened in the summer but there always is with Newcastle. Whether it's good or bad, we get an over-reaction, and that's the way the media is with the Premier League as well. "You have only got to look at Chelsea's defeat the other night and suddenly the writing is on the wall for José Mourinho and that team. It's rubbish, really.

 

"You do get setbacks and you just have to keep a level head. We have kept a level head all the way through. We think we've got a good side. I feel my side has more power to it, more offensive options this season."

 

"The extremes of the media are ridiculous at the moment," said Pardew. "I really feel that. "I was watching the BBC 10pm news on Wednesday night and Chelsea is a major story – they'd lost a game in Europe in a group from which it looks to me they'll qualify comfortably from."These real swings between 'we're going to have a great season' and 'we're going to go down' are even more highlighted at this club for whatever reason. Therefore it's important for me to keep the team on the ground and for the team to keep their feet on the ground.

 

"You can't ignore the media, it's constantly in your face, whenever you turn on the TV. It's Jamie Redknapp talking about the 'crisis' at Arsenal but then suddenly they've won four on the spin and 10 away on the trot. I don't know what the crisis is? Before that Champions league qualifying game they had at the start of the season, Arsene Wenger's job was 'on the line'. Come on, it's ridiculous."

 

 

Not too sure what he's said wrong there tbh, other than potentially the "over-reaction to what happened in the summer". The rest is spot on.

 

Had to re-read it a few times, I mainly agree. The "Even our own fans" bit was needless as well but most of the annoying things in that article were Taylor's comments between the quotes.

 

If he moans about the size of the squad this season though I hope a journo has the balls to bring some of this stuff back up again mind.

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Wullie

Wullie

Posted
Posted

Sounds confident. Should have no problem qualifying for the Europa League and having a very strong crack at at least one of the domestic cups in that case, as well as genuine revenge over the mackems (at least a 3 goal win).

Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...