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Hanshithispantz

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I can't believe people use Pardew as an excuse for some players performances, easy excuse.

Do you think that Cabaye would be far better under a different manager playing football that he is far more suited too?

 

You're missing the point Hans, some posters over rate our players, and Neesy simply will not rest until absolutely everyone has accepted it and everyone who's ever over rated anyone comes clean.

 

Some people overrate the importance of the manager and that the manager is to blame for almost everything which is no where near true.  Players are responsible for their own performances when they go on the field.

What about if a player isn't receiving the correct training or tactical advice? Although you're right, it's ultimately Cabaye (or any other player for that matter) who is responsible for his (their) own performance on the pitch, we know as football fans that the right manager can make a world of difference.
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I can't believe people use Pardew as an excuse for some players performances, easy excuse.

Do you think that Cabaye would be far better under a different manager playing football that he is far more suited too?

 

You're missing the point Hans, some posters over rate our players, and Neesy simply will not rest until absolutely everyone has accepted it and everyone who's ever over rated anyone comes clean.

 

Some people overrate the importance of the manager and that the manager is to blame for almost everything which is no where near true.  Players are responsible for their own performances when they go on the field.

 

When a team are out of form collectively for a whole season, that's the managers fault. There are varying degrees of middle ground where certain players have been better/worse in certain games, but I've no doubt where the main fault lies.

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Total extremes on here like. No middle ground.  :lol:

 

Middle ground is boring as fuck, here I'll do it for you:

 

I think Cabaye is a quality player who hasn't preformed as well as he's capable of and he has to take some of the blame for that despite Pardew tactics. He's not quite as good as some make out but I'd be sad to see him go.

 

 

OMG so sensible and balanced!!!

 

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I can't believe people use Pardew as an excuse for some players performances, easy excuse.

Do you think that Cabaye would be far better under a different manager playing football that he is far more suited too?

 

You're missing the point Hans, some posters over rate our players, and Neesy simply will not rest until absolutely everyone has accepted it and everyone who's ever over rated anyone comes clean.

 

Some people overrate the importance of the manager and that the manager is to blame for almost everything which is no where near true.  Players are responsible for their own performances when they go on the field.

 

When a team are out of form collectively for a whole season, that's the managers fault. There are varying degrees of middle ground where certain players have been better/worse in certain games, but I've no doubt where the main fault lies.

 

Literally every player has been shit. They need to stop letting the manager down and turn the shit switch off.

 

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Cabaye has been below average in my opinion. Shame to see him go, because I think he can play much better then he has done this season, but I wouldn't be devastated.

 

 

 

:thup:

 

That's my view as well.

 

Yep agree with this

 

Well you're all mental. On his day, he's unplayable.

 

If we got rid, we'd soon regret it IMO.

 

He's been unplayable only a handful of times in his 2 seasons here.

 

He's a quality player.

 

And this is the club that trusts Alan Pardew to get us out of Alan Pardew's mess, and replaced Andy Carroll with Demba Ba to then want to replace Demba Ba with Andy Carroll.

 

I don't trust us to replace him properly, so I'd rather he didn't go.

 

I'm not saying I want him away I just think there's a huge amount of hype around a player who doesn't live up to that hype a lot of the time. Tactics or no tactics top players enforce themselves on matches, just look at the way Colo made an impact coming back into defence. Cabaye has fantastic skill and ability but has he really done enough this season when we've needed him, I'm not sure he has. That said pretty much all our players have underperformed this season so he's not alone.

 

Cabaye made a huge impact on his return from injury, much in the same way Colo did.

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BONTEMPI

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Pardew has had a full season to address the failings of the team and even with a 20 Million boost in January he has made absolutely no progress in any areas.

 

I always use that as the real measure of a Manager.  If he doesn't know how to improve us, what is the fucking point in having him here.

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Cabaye has been below average in my opinion. Shame to see him go, because I think he can play much better then he has done this season, but I wouldn't be devastated.

 

 

 

:thup:

 

That's my view as well.

 

Yep agree with this

 

Well you're all mental. On his day, he's unplayable.

 

If we got rid, we'd soon regret it IMO.

 

He's been unplayable only a handful of times in his 2 seasons here.

 

He's a quality player.

 

And this is the club that trusts Alan Pardew to get us out of Alan Pardew's mess, and replaced Andy Carroll with Demba Ba to then want to replace Demba Ba with Andy Carroll.

 

I don't trust us to replace him properly, so I'd rather he didn't go.

 

I'm not saying I want him away I just think there's a huge amount of hype around a player who doesn't live up to that hype a lot of the time. Tactics or no tactics top players enforce themselves on matches, just look at the way Colo made an impact coming back into defence. Cabaye has fantastic skill and ability but has he really done enough this season when we've needed him, I'm not sure he has. That said pretty much all our players have underperformed this season so he's not alone.

 

Cabaye made a huge impact on his return from injury.

 

I'd say the new players had a bigger impact tbh.

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Pardew has had a full season to address the failings of the team and even with a 20 Million boost in January he has made absolutely no progress in any areas.

 

I always use that as the real measure of a Manager.  If he doesn't know how to improve us, what is the f***ing point in having him here.

 

Wrong brah, we have played a few less long balls since February. There are some graphs and charts a few pages back to prove it, so there.

 

:snod:

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Pardew has had a full season to address the failings of the team and even with a 20 Million boost in January he has made absolutely no progress in any areas.

 

I always use that as the real measure of a Manager.  If he doesn't know how to improve us, what is the f***ing point in having him here.

 

Wrong brah, we have player a few less long balls since February. There are some graphs and charts a few pages back to prove it, so there.

 

:snod:

 

Oh really

 

Please point me to them

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Cabaye has been below average in my opinion. Shame to see him go, because I think he can play much better then he has done this season, but I wouldn't be devastated.

 

 

 

:thup:

 

That's my view as well.

 

Yep agree with this

 

Well you're all mental. On his day, he's unplayable.

 

If we got rid, we'd soon regret it IMO.

 

He's been unplayable only a handful of times in his 2 seasons here.

 

He's a quality player.

 

And this is the club that trusts Alan Pardew to get us out of Alan Pardew's mess, and replaced Andy Carroll with Demba Ba to then want to replace Demba Ba with Andy Carroll.

 

I don't trust us to replace him properly, so I'd rather he didn't go.

 

I'm not saying I want him away I just think there's a huge amount of hype around a player who doesn't live up to that hype a lot of the time. Tactics or no tactics top players enforce themselves on matches, just look at the way Colo made an impact coming back into defence. Cabaye has fantastic skill and ability but has he really done enough this season when we've needed him, I'm not sure he has. That said pretty much all our players have underperformed this season so he's not alone.

 

Cabaye made a huge impact on his return from injury.

 

I'd say the new players had a bigger impact tbh.

 

Certainly not all of them. Didn't Cabaye score the winner in his first two games after his return?

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ExiledGeordie

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Cabaye has been below average in my opinion. Shame to see him go, because I think he can play much better then he has done this season, but I wouldn't be devastated.

 

 

 

:thup:

 

That's my view as well.

 

Yep agree with this

 

Well you're all mental. On his day, he's unplayable.

 

If we got rid, we'd soon regret it IMO.

 

He's been unplayable only a handful of times in his 2 seasons here.

 

He's a quality player.

 

And this is the club that trusts Alan Pardew to get us out of Alan Pardew's mess, and replaced Andy Carroll with Demba Ba to then want to replace Demba Ba with Andy Carroll.

 

I don't trust us to replace him properly, so I'd rather he didn't go.

 

I'm not saying I want him away I just think there's a huge amount of hype around a player who doesn't live up to that hype a lot of the time. Tactics or no tactics top players enforce themselves on matches, just look at the way Colo made an impact coming back into defence. Cabaye has fantastic skill and ability but has he really done enough this season when we've needed him, I'm not sure he has. That said pretty much all our players have underperformed this season so he's not alone.

 

Cabaye made a huge impact on his return from injury, much in the same way Colo did.

 

Fair comment, he did initially but it tailed off too much afterwards in my opinion. Of all our players (Colo aside) he's the one I'd be least surprised to see go. I'd like to see him stay and Pardew sort that midfield out (don't all laugh at once) with Sissoko in there next to him. He needs to have more of an impact going forward, that quaterback role is f***ing nonsense. I guess I'm saying he's being misused and also needs to up his game - two way thing.

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Having Cabaye, Krul, Coloccini & HBA for even just an extra 5-6 games this season would have made things a lot more comfortable. Think we'd have been closer to WBA & Swansea at least. Would have still been a poor season.

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It's no doubt that our "purple" players such as Ben Arfa, Cabaye and Colo make a massive difference to our results, and in that respect Pardew has a point in that we've missed them and I don't think we'd have been in our current plight if we could have kept them fit.

 

However a decent manager would be able to get results with key injuries, all teams suffer losses during a season and the cut of a good manager is to cope with those losses.

 

It just proves we can win matches despite, not because of Pardew. He just relies on the "magic" those players bring to the team and he's lost without it.

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I think my last strands of hope will die on Monday if/when he's still here

 

Me too mate. It's been a real s*** season that will be extended further if he stays. Him being here will give a lot of us absolutely nothing to look forward to through the summer. You can't even believe what he tells you in the press. Manager and spokesman, you're having a laugh. THE MAN IS A CLOWN.

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The Poyet suspension is intriguing.

 

Would take him in a heartbeat (yeah, I know it aint gonna happen).  The report I read was that the club were seeing if he had breached his contract with his comments apparently saying he was 'reviewing his position', or words to that effect.

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Daaaaaavid Craig reporting on SSN on in the pub  under the headline 'Newcastle Incentive' alongside a picture of Ashley looking like he's been put through an iPhone aging app, someone with audio explain.

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