JH Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Cabaye has been below average in my opinion. Shame to see him go, because I think he can play much better then he has done this season, but I wouldn't be devastated. That's my view as well. Yep agree with this Well you're all mental. On his day, he's unplayable. If we got rid, we'd soon regret it IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I'd like to see some stats on how often particular words are used in this thread. I'm willing to bet that 'magic' and it's variants would be near the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/i-m-100-per-cent-committed-to-newcastle-pardew-1-5686743 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Cabaye has been below average in my opinion. Shame to see him go, because I think he can play much better then he has done this season, but I wouldn't be devastated. That's my view as well. Yep agree with this Well you're all mental. On his day, he's unplayable. If we got rid, we'd soon regret it IMO. He's been unplayable only a handful of times in his 2 seasons here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejaxer Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I don't think I can watch this club go downhill tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I'd like to see some stats on how often particular words are used in this thread. I'm willing to bet that 'magic' and it's variants would be near the top. lllllllllllllllllllllllll magic llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll crap lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll shite llll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll stats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Cabaye has been below average in my opinion. Shame to see him go, because I think he can play much better then he has done this season, but I wouldn't be devastated. That's my view as well. Yep agree with this Well you're all mental. On his day, he's unplayable. If we got rid, we'd soon regret it IMO. He's been unplayable only a handful of times in his 2 seasons here. He's a quality player. And this is the club that trusts Alan Pardew to get us out of Alan Pardew's mess, and replaced Andy Carroll with Demba Ba to then want to replace Demba Ba with Andy Carroll. I don't trust us to replace him properly, so I'd rather he didn't go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I don't want us to sell cabaye, he's had a poor season but he's still a player to build a team around, we'll struggle to find another all action creative player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Cabaye has been below average in my opinion. Shame to see him go, because I think he can play much better then he has done this season, but I wouldn't be devastated. That's my view as well. Yep agree with this Well you're all mental. On his day, he's unplayable. If we got rid, we'd soon regret it IMO. He's been unplayable only a handful of times in his 2 seasons here. He's a quality player. And this is the club that trusts Alan Pardew to get us out of Alan Pardew's mess, and replaced Andy Carroll with Demba Ba to then want to replace Demba Ba with Andy Carroll. I don't trust us to replace him properly, so I'd rather he didn't go. I'm not saying I want him away I just think there's a huge amount of hype around a player who doesn't live up to that hype a lot of the time. Tactics or no tactics top players enforce themselves on matches, just look at the way Colo made an impact coming back into defence. Cabaye has fantastic skill and ability but has he really done enough this season when we've needed him, I'm not sure he has. That said pretty much all our players have underperformed this season so he's not alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I can't believe people use Pardew as an excuse for some players performances, easy excuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Cabaye in a team with movement around him and he would look class in most games. Against Chelsea he was exceptional imo, and that was one of the few times where our players were making runs and had good movement. Cabaye is simply not the problem! He's not a dynamic player who takes control of a s*** game where everyone else is standing still, but he's brilliant in his own way, and i'd be devastated if he left as he 'could' be very very good in the right setup. And yes, he should still have performed a bit better in some games lately, but i can understand his frustration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I can't believe people use Pardew as an excuse for some players performances, easy excuse. Do you think that Cabaye would be far better under a different manager playing football that he is far more suited too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I can't believe people use Pardew as an excuse for some players performances, easy excuse. Do you think that Cabaye would be far better under a different manager playing football that he is far more suited too? Nah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I disagree, Neesy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I can't believe people use Pardew as an excuse for some players performances, easy excuse. Do you think that Cabaye would be far better under a different manager playing football that he is far more suited too? You're missing the point Hans, some posters over rate our players, and Neesy simply will not rest until absolutely everyone has accepted it and everyone who's ever over rated anyone comes clean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I can't believe people use Pardew as an excuse for some players performances, easy excuse. Do you think that Cabaye would be far better under a different manager playing football that he is far more suited too? You're missing the point Hans, some posters over rate our players, and Neesy simply will not rest until absolutely everyone has accepted it and everyone who's ever over rated anyone comes clean. Some people overrate the importance of the manager and that the manager is to blame for almost everything which is no where near true. Players are responsible for their own performances when they go on the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I can't believe people use Pardew as an excuse for some players performances, easy excuse. Do you think that Cabaye would be far better under a different manager playing football that he is far more suited too? You're missing the point Hans, some posters over rate our players, and Neesy simply will not rest until absolutely everyone has accepted it and everyone who's ever over rated anyone comes clean. I agree with the sentiment like, and it's the same with the "Do you really think Ashley will sack Pardew/get in a new man" stuff but it's just nauseating. Player's haven't been at the races, I think the majority of people are aware of that, and although it probably isn't all Pardew's fault directly he certainly seems to be the main cause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Cabaye's best run of form since he signed for us was for France last summer. He has rarely been that good in our colours for whatever reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Anyone who thinks selling Cabaye is even remotely sensible deserves to watch a season of Dan Gosling getting what we'll hear about as his "long awaited chance". You're all fucking mad. We'll either replace Cabaye badly or not fucking replace him at all. He's the best midfielder we've had since Gary Speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I can't believe people use Pardew as an excuse for some players performances, easy excuse. Do you think that Cabaye would be far better under a different manager playing football that he is far more suited too? You're missing the point Hans, some posters over rate our players, and Neesy simply will not rest until absolutely everyone has accepted it and everyone who's ever over rated anyone comes clean. Some people overrate the importance of the manager and that the manager is to blame for almost everything which is no where near true. Players are responsible for their own performances when they go on the field. What about if a player isn't receiving the correct training or tactical advice? Although you're right, it's ultimately Cabaye (or any other player for that matter) who is responsible for his (their) own performance on the pitch, we know as football fans that the right manager can make a world of difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Total extremes on here like. No middle ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I can't believe people use Pardew as an excuse for some players performances, easy excuse. Do you think that Cabaye would be far better under a different manager playing football that he is far more suited too? You're missing the point Hans, some posters over rate our players, and Neesy simply will not rest until absolutely everyone has accepted it and everyone who's ever over rated anyone comes clean. Some people overrate the importance of the manager and that the manager is to blame for almost everything which is no where near true. Players are responsible for their own performances when they go on the field. When a team are out of form collectively for a whole season, that's the managers fault. There are varying degrees of middle ground where certain players have been better/worse in certain games, but I've no doubt where the main fault lies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Total extremes on here like. No middle ground. Middle ground is boring as fuck, here I'll do it for you: I think Cabaye is a quality player who hasn't preformed as well as he's capable of and he has to take some of the blame for that despite Pardew tactics. He's not quite as good as some make out but I'd be sad to see him go. OMG so sensible and balanced!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I I can't believe people use Pardew as an excuse for some players performances, easy excuse. Do you think that Cabaye would be far better under a different manager playing football that he is far more suited too? You're missing the point Hans, some posters over rate our players, and Neesy simply will not rest until absolutely everyone has accepted it and everyone who's ever over rated anyone comes clean. Some people overrate the importance of the manager and that the manager is to blame for almost everything which is no where near true. Players are responsible for their own performances when they go on the field. When a team are out of form collectively for a whole season, that's the managers fault. There are varying degrees of middle ground where certain players have been better/worse in certain games, but I've no doubt where the main fault lies. Literally every player has been shit. They need to stop letting the manager down and turn the shit switch off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Cabaye has been below average in my opinion. Shame to see him go, because I think he can play much better then he has done this season, but I wouldn't be devastated. That's my view as well. Yep agree with this Well you're all mental. On his day, he's unplayable. If we got rid, we'd soon regret it IMO. He's been unplayable only a handful of times in his 2 seasons here. He's a quality player. And this is the club that trusts Alan Pardew to get us out of Alan Pardew's mess, and replaced Andy Carroll with Demba Ba to then want to replace Demba Ba with Andy Carroll. I don't trust us to replace him properly, so I'd rather he didn't go. I'm not saying I want him away I just think there's a huge amount of hype around a player who doesn't live up to that hype a lot of the time. Tactics or no tactics top players enforce themselves on matches, just look at the way Colo made an impact coming back into defence. Cabaye has fantastic skill and ability but has he really done enough this season when we've needed him, I'm not sure he has. That said pretty much all our players have underperformed this season so he's not alone. Cabaye made a huge impact on his return from injury, much in the same way Colo did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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