Weezertron Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 But the only way Pardew will last 8 years is if he wins a trophy..... so it's an easy statement to make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 How has it swung this far ffs. Trophies? Wummery is afoot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 So that wasn't a 'good team'? Areet, aye, fair enough. Ba had a stormer for half a season and then literally EVERYTHING Cisse kicked went in. Colo was great and HBA made a big impact when Pardew eventually realised Obertan was making him look bad. Good players playing well. My tripe file gets bigger. 3 Mate, you're denying that Pardew created a good team when we finished 5th. I'm not sure why I bother, but surely any non-dementia sufferer can't argue this? I'd suggest you go watch that season again before saying anything. You are both right to an extent, Pardew built a great team at the beginning but first injury and he couldn't get smack right and without Cisse and Ben Arfa and we could've easily been finishing around 15th or so. Without our best players we could have finished lower down, yes. Very true. Very true. This is the case for any side with a thin squad. If I remember correctly however, our players remained fit for the most part and played extremely well. Overachieved. Could even be described as a good team. We played abysmal football though for big periods. Anyways not getting into a debate, but I said that season that we didn't deserve 5th and that we could've easily been a lower half team. I was right for the next season. I just hope we have good enough players so Pardew doesn't fuck us over At the time people said the football wasn't great. It was football that could get figured out and had major limitations longer term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Without our best players we could have finished lower down, yes. Very true. Very true. This is the case for any side with a thin squad. If I remember correctly however, our players remained fit for the most part and played extremely well. Overachieved. Could even be described as a good team. If the team was that good then don't you think it would take something of a prick to start changing it? Oh we've got a good team, let's move Cisse and bring Ba back into the middle and see what happens. I was contesting the ludicrous statement that Pardew has never produced a good team. Last season was obviously a disaster, bar Europe. Lets hope lessons have been learnt. Unfortunately not a single fucking one has been learnt by the club. Can only hope the coaching staff aren't the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 But the only way Pardew will last 8 years is if he wins a trophy..... so it's an easy statement to make. If he last 8 years i will definitely marry quasimodos ugly sister in the other room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Without our best players we could have finished lower down, yes. Very true. Very true. This is the case for any side with a thin squad. If I remember correctly however, our players remained fit for the most part and played extremely well. Overachieved. Could even be described as a good team. If the team was that good then don't you think it would take something of a prick to start changing it? Oh we've got a good team, let's move Cisse and bring Ba back into the middle and see what happens. I was contesting the ludicrous statement that Pardew has never produced a good team. Last season was obviously a disaster, bar Europe. Lets hope lessons have been learnt. Unfortunately not a single fucking one has been learnt by the club. Can only hope the coaching staff aren't the same. Word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 He won't last 8 years. He's gone as soon as Ashley is because he's a second rate manager who belongs in the lower leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Let's not forget how far behind the tops teams Liverpool were under Benitez. They still managed to have great cup runs including winning the Champion's League. We're obviously not that good but Pardew strikes me as a similar sort of manager and I certainly don't think a cup is out of our reach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 We've been knocked out by lower league opposition pretty much every domestic cup Pardew has managed us in. So I can definitely see where this optimism is stemming from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Let's not forget how far behind the tops teams Liverpool were under Benitez. They still managed to have great cup runs including winning the Champion's League. We're obviously not that good but Pardew strikes me as a similar sort of manager and I certainly don't think a cup is out of our reach. Trying too hard now. 4/10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 We've been knocked out by lower league opposition pretty much every domestic cup Pardew has managed us in. So I can definitely see where this optimism is stemming from. True so very very true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 We've been knocked out by lower league opposition pretty much every domestic cup Pardew has managed us in. So I can definitely see where this optimism is stemming from. I should also stipulate that this is relying on the kids making it beyond the 4th round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Let's not forget how far behind the tops teams Liverpool were under Benitez. They still managed to have great cup runs including winning the Champion's League. We're obviously not that good but Pardew strikes me as a similar sort of manager and I certainly don't think a cup is out of our reach. Benitez / Pardew. Does someone have a gun pointed at your winky ?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Let's not forget how far behind the tops teams Liverpool were under Benitez. They still managed to have great cup runs including winning the Champion's League. We're obviously not that good but Pardew strikes me as a similar sort of manager and I certainly don't think a cup is out of our reach. Benitez / Pardew. Does someone have a gun pointed at your winky ?. I think it was just a typo, it was meant to read Pulis not Benitez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 What the hell is going on here We have played one and a half good league game and we are going to win a cup now. This is quite mental Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 What the hell is going on here We have played one and a half good league game and we are going to win a cup now. This is quite mental Pardew is like Benitez, Brett went mental on mushrooms, Ian.W joined Dave and San Toon in the jacuzzi of doubt. We're going to win both cups and Pardew will be here for the whole 8 years. Mental evening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I look forward to us definitely winning these cups Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 What the hell is going on here We have played one and a half good league game and we are going to win a cup now. This is quite mental Pardew is like Benitez, Brett went mental on mushrooms, Ian.W joined Dave and San Toon in the jacuzzi of doubt. We're going to win both cups and Pardew will be here for the whole 8 years. Mental evening If I had to guess, I expect it would be a Europa League win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Just to make it clear, I don't want to be associated with any trophy acclaim when we fail to win anything. Even I haven't got the optimism for that! Christ, had better sides and managers than this and still failed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 What the hell is going on here We have played one and a half good league game and we are going to win a cup now. This is quite mental Pardew is like Benitez, Brett went mental on mushrooms, Ian.W joined Dave and San Toon in the jacuzzi of doubt. We're going to win both cups and Pardew will be here for the whole 8 years. Mental evening If I had to guess, I expect it would be a Europa League win. Ah finishing in the top 5 again too, i'll add that to the mental evening list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Just to make it clear, I don't want to be associated with any trophy acclaim when we fail to win anything. Even I haven't got the optimism for that! Christ, had better sides and managers than this and still failed! Coming down from a high is a bitch like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 It'll be the Champions League. We've got to end the drought in style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 What the hell is going on here We have played one and a half good league game and we are going to win a cup now. This is quite mental Pardew is like Benitez, Brett went mental on mushrooms, Ian.W joined Dave and San Toon in the jacuzzi of doubt. We're going to win both cups and Pardew will be here for the whole 8 years. Mental evening If I had to guess, I expect it would be a Europa League win. Ah finishing in the top 5 again too, i'll add that to the mental evening list in 8 years? ...I'm pretty confident in that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 What the hell is going on here We have played one and a half good league game and we are going to win a cup now. This is quite mental Pardew is like Benitez, Brett went mental on mushrooms, Ian.W joined Dave and San Toon in the jacuzzi of doubt. We're going to win both cups and Pardew will be here for the whole 8 years. Mental evening If I had to guess, I expect it would be a Europa League win. Ah finishing in the top 5 again too, i'll add that to the mental evening list in 8 years? ...I'm pretty confident in that one. Only 6 left to do it in though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 The Jacuzzi of doubt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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