Alan Pardew

[TRC]

It's pretty obvious what's going on in this thread. Certain people love to make out that if you believe Pardew should be sacked then by default you advocate Ashley's tenure.

 

Which is absolute horseshit.

 

Hmm, so say someone like me who has wanted Pardew gone for over a year now. I back Ashley's tenure because i want to see better football, by a better manager, interesting......

 

Tbf if Pardew was sacked, it would be a worry about who Ashley appoints (JFK appoints). We can hardly get worse imo. I truly think we might go down under Pardew, if those players are still playing for him as some state they do, they aren't half a lazy bunch of f***ers. I'm quite sure that our players are in need of a different voice with different ideas, it's so clear to see.

 

Over a year? Bit harsh he had just finished 5th.

[Guest bimpy474]

Look at how Everton completely destroyed us on Monday; there's just no way a Pardew team will ever do that to anyone, not even lower league opponents. It doesn't matter which players he puts on the pitch, they won't be coached good enough to have a decent gameplan anyway.

 

Not sure we'll ever play a team so scared of us they would play like Pardew set us up. Would be nice to smash someone wouldn't it

[Guest bimpy474]

It's pretty obvious what's going on in this thread. Certain people love to make out that if you believe Pardew should be sacked then by default you advocate Ashley's tenure.

 

Which is absolute horseshit.

 

Hmm, so say someone like me who has wanted Pardew gone for over a year now. I back Ashley's tenure because i want to see better football, by a better manager, interesting......

 

Tbf if Pardew was sacked, it would be a worry about who Ashley appoints (JFK appoints). We can hardly get worse imo. I truly think we might go down under Pardew, if those players are still playing for him as some state they do, they aren't half a lazy bunch of f***ers. I'm quite sure that our players are in need of a different voice with different ideas, it's so clear to see.

 

Over a year? Bit harsh he had just finished 5th.

 

Aye, but the football wasn't a long term thing. It was football that could get figured out, and was last season. The perfect example was the Man Utd game at home (0-3). Ferguson knew Pardew would try the same 4-4-2, Demba and Shola tactic. He went for a narrow diamond and strangled us. That happen in many games, and that's where a clever manager changes things. Pardew can't as he's so limited in his thinking.

 

You need possession now, and Pardew can't and doesn't know how to do that. We've seen it in little bits but never for any length of time.

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

It's pretty obvious what's going on in this thread. Certain people love to make out that if you believe Pardew should be sacked then by default you advocate Ashley's tenure.

 

Which is absolute horseshit.

 

Hmm, so say someone like me who has wanted Pardew gone for over a year now. I back Ashley's tenure because i want to see better football, by a better manager, interesting......

 

Tbf if Pardew was sacked, it would be a worry about who Ashley appoints (JFK appoints). We can hardly get worse imo. I truly think we might go down under Pardew, if those players are still playing for him as some state they do, they aren't half a lazy bunch of f***ers. I'm quite sure that our players are in need of a different voice with different ideas, it's so clear to see.

 

Over a year? Bit harsh he had just finished 5th.

 

Aye, but the football wasn't a long term thing. It was football that could get figured out, and was last season. The perfect example was the Man Utd game at home (0-3). Ferguson knew Pardew would try the same 4-4-2, Demba and Shola tactic. He went for a narrow diamond and strangled us. That happen in many games, and that's where a clever manager changes things. Pardew can't as he's so limited in his thinking.

 

You need possession now, and Pardew can't and doesn't know how to do that. We've seen it in little bits but never for any length of time.

 

The only teams to have more possession than us this season have been Man City and Aston Villa. We had 61% against Hull.

[Guest bimpy474]

It's pretty obvious what's going on in this thread. Certain people love to make out that if you believe Pardew should be sacked then by default you advocate Ashley's tenure.

 

Which is absolute horseshit.

 

Hmm, so say someone like me who has wanted Pardew gone for over a year now. I back Ashley's tenure because i want to see better football, by a better manager, interesting......

 

Tbf if Pardew was sacked, it would be a worry about who Ashley appoints (JFK appoints). We can hardly get worse imo. I truly think we might go down under Pardew, if those players are still playing for him as some state they do, they aren't half a lazy bunch of f***ers. I'm quite sure that our players are in need of a different voice with different ideas, it's so clear to see.

 

Over a year? Bit harsh he had just finished 5th.

 

Aye, but the football wasn't a long term thing. It was football that could get figured out, and was last season. The perfect example was the Man Utd game at home (0-3). Ferguson knew Pardew would try the same 4-4-2, Demba and Shola tactic. He went for a narrow diamond and strangled us. That happen in many games, and that's where a clever manager changes things. Pardew can't as he's so limited in his thinking.

 

You need possession now, and Pardew can't and doesn't know how to do that. We've seen it in little bits but never for any length of time.

 

The only teams to have more possession than us this season have been Man City and Aston Villa. We had 61% against Hull.

 

This season has been better on that front, and it would be daft to argue otherwise. But while we continue to conceded goals like we do, and not being a team that scores many, well not a good mix like.

 

While our possession has been better in terms of percentage, we haven't looked that threatening. I said and others too, that is a good starting point though. Problem now is Pardew's mindset. He set us up to have more possession and we concede goals. I'm betting we go more defensive and give up more possession (like at Everton) and we will still concede goals.

 

And it's the goals conceded that will kill us and relegate us if we're not careful. I think it's 88 in 50 league games (not sure if that includes the Everton game). And 3 wins in the last 22 away games is terrible, especially with our poor home form. I'm very worried while he stays, we are just going to get worse and worse as the players struggle under him.

 

 

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment?

 

 

[Ikon]

You still haven't died Pardew? Disappointing weekend tbh.

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

 

Jesus Wept.

[LRD]

I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment?

 

 

 

Your idol.

[Guest hatem garrincha]

I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment?

 

Pardew. With success.

[Guest bimpy474]

I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment?

 

 

 

I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously.

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

 

 

I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment?

 

 

 

I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously.

 

I don't think we need an Allardycesque backroom but at the moment we've got nobody. In the modern game you really need to bring in specialists.

[Ikon]

 

 

I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment?

 

 

 

I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously.

 

I don't think we need an Allardycesque backroom but at the moment we've got nobody. In the modern game you really need to bring in specialists.

 

Aye, and the man at the top of the coaching setup certainly is a specialist in being rotten shit.

[LRD]

4 days a week spent on negating the opposition too.

[Guest neesy111]

 

 

I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment?

 

 

 

I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously.

 

I don't think we need an Allardycesque backroom but at the moment we've got nobody. In the modern game you really need to bring in specialists.

 

Our team photo has just about as many coaches/backroom staff as players.

 

http://www.nufc.co.uk/javaImages/3/9e/0,,10278~12230147,00.jpg

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

 

 

I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment?

 

 

 

I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously.

 

I don't think we need an Allardycesque backroom but at the moment we've got nobody. In the modern game you really need to bring in specialists.

 

Our team photo has just about as many coaches/backroom staff as players.

 

http://www.nufc.co.uk/javaImages/3/9e/0,,10278~12230147,00.jpg

 

Aye but what use are they?

 

Even the fitness coach - Santon was blowing out of his arse after about ten minutes against Everton.

[sempuki]

If we get lose and he gets the boot (quite likely imo) the thought of JFK in charge (at least as an interim manager) is scary stuff. Imagine him giving the TV interviews every week? "That cunt Ben Afree had a fucking mare and don't start me on that fucking French fucker Kebab. It was nowt to do with me as I am head and shoulders above the rest etc." A great laugh for the neutrals but not for us. Just hope MA has a better strategy than JFK.

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

I don't think they'll be giving JFK the job even in an interim role tbh.

[Mick]

 

 

I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment?

 

 

 

I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously.

 

I don't think we need an Allardycesque backroom but at the moment we've got nobody. In the modern game you really need to bring in specialists.

 

Our team photo has just about as many coaches/backroom staff as players.

 

http://www.nufc.co.uk/javaImages/3/9e/0,,10278~12230147,00.jpg

 

Aye but what use are they?

 

Even the fitness coach - Santon was blowing out of his arse after about ten minutes against Everton.

You must be a mackem, you've got to be.

[sempuki]

I don't think they'll be giving JFK the job even in an interim role tbh.

 

I really hope you are right. I wouldn't put it past them though.

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

 

 

I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment?

 

 

 

I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously.

 

I don't think we need an Allardycesque backroom but at the moment we've got nobody. In the modern game you really need to bring in specialists.

 

Our team photo has just about as many coaches/backroom staff as players.

 

http://www.nufc.co.uk/javaImages/3/9e/0,,10278~12230147,00.jpg

 

Aye but what use are they?

 

Even the fitness coach - Santon was blowing out of his arse after about ten minutes against Everton.

You must be a mackem, you've got to be.

 

Que?

[Raconteur]

I don't think they'll be giving JFK the job even in an interim role tbh.

Why not?

 

nufc.co.uk lists the backroom staff as: John Carver, Steve Stone, Peter Beardsley, Andy Woodman, William Donachie, Joe Joyce, Dave Watson, Chris Terpcou. Who amongst them would be sacked as well? Next, who would take the opportunity to walk?

 

Then, you take what's left, and put him/them up against Ashley's mate - I've gotta know what gives you this faith. Unless there's someone lined up, then surely JFK is the man, if only in the interim.

[Disco]

Everton have...

 

A. A better manager.

B. A better squad.

C. Baines

D. Lukaku

 

etc  etc

 

Nah sorry, you've attempted to make the point that no decent manager would come here with no transfer budget, then two minutes later said "oh but Everton have a better manager" - err yeah who's just gone there in full knowledge about how little backing he'll get and how often he'll have to sell his prize assets.

 

A big difference being that Everton have the ambition to appoint a manager like Martinez. With his better and bigger squad at Everton. How long would a talent like Barkley last at Newcastle? Irrelevant I suppose.

 

If Pardew looks like keeping us up I imagine he'll be alright.

 

Anyway I feel like I'm only irritating people in this thread so i'll leave you be.

 

He wouldn't get produced / the chance in the first place

[mrmojorisin75]

Our team photo has just about as many coaches/backroom staff as players.

 

http://www.nufc.co.uk/javaImages/3/9e/0,,10278~12230147,00.jpg

 

does it list all of their roles with the photo?  they could be anybody, the club have the same people in different positions on the org chart to fool the academy assessors - these are probably passers by and such

[loki679]

I don't think they'll be giving JFK the job even in an interim role tbh.

Why not?

 

nufc.co.uk lists the backroom staff as: John Carver, Steve Stone, Peter Beardsley, Andy Woodman, William Donachie, Joe Joyce, Dave Watson, Chris Terpcou. Who amongst them would be sacked as well? Next, who would take the opportunity to walk?

 

Then, you take what's left, and put him/them up against Ashley's mate - I've gotta know what gives you this faith. Unless there's someone lined up, then surely JFK is the man, if only in the interim.

 

At this point i'd rather he just got rid of Pards and gave it to JFK if that's what he's planning.  Let's just get it out of the way now so we can move on sooner rather than later.