thenige Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Got the team selection right, got the subs right. Second half performance wasn't a patch but on the first but once they scored fans got into it and Cardiff looked better. We've done what Man City couldn't. So Williamson playing and Jonás coming on were the right decisions? We've won today because Cardiff were monumentally s*** in the first half and Rémy's scored two fantastic goals. Not because the team selection and Pardew's tactics were right. We've been extremely fortunate. So they weren't shit because of the way we played? Christ, I'd suggest finding something better to do on a Saturday because if you feel like this when we win I don't think it's worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Can we sack him anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Got the team selection right, got the subs right. Second half performance wasn't a patch but on the first but once they scored fans got into it and Cardiff looked better. We've done what Man City couldn't. So Williamson playing and Jonás coming on were the right decisions? We've won today because Cardiff were monumentally shit in the first half and Rémy's scored two fantastic goals. Not because the team selection and Pardew's tactics were right. We've been extremely fortunate. Second half we were all over the place with tactics a mess, first half he got it right with the approach and setup, which created those opportunities for Remy. Starting XI is debatable. I would have started HBA instead of Gouffran. The fear/expectation being promoted sides tend to be more "physical" so Gouffran was the safer choice. May have been the reasoning for Tiote over Anita as well. Subs were a mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Apologies to those who wanted him to lose so he would be sacked! Are you prepubescent ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Not seen anything of the game and I disagreed with his team selection but it sounds like we played some decent stuff in scoring two goals and winning away from home. I don't rate the guy but it seems churlish to complain about him tonight. Watch the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 We won didn't we? I'm sure your tactical masterstrokes would have made us win 7-1 instead, but Jonas didn't put a foot wrong defensively and Ben Arfa worried them enough when he came on. So why did we sit back 15 yards 2nd half? So we could absorb their extra pressure and play them on the break? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Got the team selection right, got the subs right. Second half performance wasn't a patch but on the first but once they scored fans got into it and Cardiff looked better. We've done what Man City couldn't. So Williamson playing and Jonás coming on were the right decisions? We've won today because Cardiff were monumentally s*** in the first half and Rémy's scored two fantastic goals. Not because the team selection and Pardew's tactics were right. We've been extremely fortunate. So they weren't shit because of the way we played? Christ, I'd suggest finding something better to do on a Saturday because if you feel like this when we win I don't think it's worth it. Your the one posting what Id call utter crap. Did you see the 2nd half? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Got the team selection right, got the subs right. Second half performance wasn't a patch but on the first but once they scored fans got into it and Cardiff looked better. We've done what Man City couldn't. So Williamson playing and Jonás coming on were the right decisions? We've won today because Cardiff were monumentally s*** in the first half and Rémy's scored two fantastic goals. Not because the team selection and Pardew's tactics were right. We've been extremely fortunate. So they weren't shit because of the way we played? You'll get your answer when we play Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 We won didn't we? I'm sure your tactical masterstrokes would have made us win 7-1 instead, but Jonas didn't put a foot wrong defensively and Ben Arfa worried them enough when he came on. So why did we sit back 15 yards 2nd half? So we could absorb their extra pressure and play them on the break? Instead of doing what we did in the first half? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 We won didn't we? I'm sure your tactical masterstrokes would have made us win 7-1 instead, but Jonas didn't put a foot wrong defensively and Ben Arfa worried them enough when he came on. So why did we sit back 15 yards 2nd half? So we could absorb their extra pressure and play them on the break? You mean put the goal under immense pressure because every clearance came straight back at us until Ben Arfa came on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Gambled on selection but it paid off. Sounds like we played unbelievably well first half and still had chances to finish it off 2nd half but lack of composure kept it tighter than it really should have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 West Ham Morecambe Fulham Villa Hull Leeds Everton Cardiff 8 games for Pardew to be judged on. Could be gone by Halloween if it goes badly, and would have NO excuses about the quality of opposition. W5 D1 L2 Probably one loss too many from those games. But not the catastrophe some feared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 We won didn't we? I'm sure your tactical masterstrokes would have made us win 7-1 instead, but Jonas didn't put a foot wrong defensively and Ben Arfa worried them enough when he came on. So why did we sit back 15 yards 2nd half? So we could absorb their extra pressure and play them on the break? If hitting the ball up to Cissé and it bouncing off him with none of our players being within 25 isn't a terrible tactic then I don't know what is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 West Ham Morecambe Fulham Villa Hull Leeds Everton Cardiff 8 games for Pardew to be judged on. Could be gone by Halloween if it goes badly, and would have NO excuses about the quality of opposition. W5 D1 L2 Probably one loss too many from those games. But not the catastrophe some feared. If you're including league cup games then you're a joke, a complete joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 West Ham Morecambe Fulham Villa Hull Leeds Everton Cardiff 8 games for Pardew to be judged on. Could be gone by Halloween if it goes badly, and would have NO excuses about the quality of opposition. W5 D1 L2 Probably one loss too many from those games. But not the catastrophe some feared. May i point while they were wins, wins against League 2 and Championship clubs skew things a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 At least he had them right up for it from the start today, though you would think that was a basic managerial requirement. Our workrate was much improved. His changes were justified as well, so a good day for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 He was unlucky to come away with the win today. He made all the right decisions in that second half, but it didn't quite come off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 West Ham Morecambe Fulham Villa Hull Leeds Everton Cardiff 8 games for Pardew to be judged on. Could be gone by Halloween if it goes badly, and would have NO excuses about the quality of opposition. W5 D1 L2 Probably one loss too many from those games. But not the catastrophe some feared. If you're including league cup games then you're a joke, a complete joke. I was getting wrong off people for leaving them out earlier in the thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 At least he had them right up for it from the start today, though you would think that was a basic managerial requirement. Our workrate was much improved. His changes were justified as well, so a good day for him. Jonas for remy man! If you're gonna bring Jonas on for anyone surely it should be for cisse. Edit he was injured....oops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 West Ham Morecambe Fulham Villa Hull Leeds Everton Cardiff 8 games for Pardew to be judged on. Could be gone by Halloween if it goes badly, and would have NO excuses about the quality of opposition. W5 D1 L2 Probably one loss too many from those games. But not the catastrophe some feared. Last 49 league games: Win percentage - 30.61% Draws per game - 18.37% Defeats per game - 51.02% Points per game - 1.10 Goals for per game - 1.16 Goals against per game - 1.82 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 We won didn't we? I'm sure your tactical masterstrokes would have made us win 7-1 instead, but Jonas didn't put a foot wrong defensively and Ben Arfa worried them enough when he came on. So why did we sit back 15 yards 2nd half? So we could absorb their extra pressure and play them on the break? Which resulted in a 1-0 second half scoreline and put us under pressure. At some point you'll understand that attacking the other team is a much better defensive strategy than playing an 'attackers vs defenders' training game in a PL match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Whatever credit he deserved for a really good first half and team selection was erased by that pathetic performance after the break. If you defend that deep for 45 minutes you will either lose or get lucky. The latter happened today. I expect a lot better in terms of making adjustments and keeping the team competitive for a full 90. There have been plenty of instances where Pardew has undeservedly gotten 100% of the blame when the players show no effort or ability in a loss. This is an instance where the result flattered him. Just cowardly in the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 At least he had them right up for it from the start today, though you would think that was a basic managerial requirement. Our workrate was much improved. His changes were justified as well, so a good day for him. Jonas for remy man! If you're gonna bring Jonas on for anyone surely it should be for cisse Sorry mate, meant initial changes in team selection. Seems Remy was injured, according to the commentary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 West Ham Morecambe Fulham Villa Hull Leeds Everton Cardiff 8 games for Pardew to be judged on. Could be gone by Halloween if it goes badly, and would have NO excuses about the quality of opposition. W5 D1 L2 Probably one loss too many from those games. But not the catastrophe some feared. If you're including league cup games then you're a joke, a complete joke. I was getting wrong off people for leaving them out earlier in the thread I judge by the League, it's our bread and butter imo. As much as i love a cup run it can skew things like this because you play much weaker opposition at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 This win just papered over the cracks. The first half was good, we were looking really well and have done a few times this season, but that's not the problem. The problem is how Pardew handles games when we're winning at half time. The negativity on the pitch nearly cost us the win. We should have went out and killed them off but didn't. The game was crying out for Anita and Ben Arfa early in the 2nd half and it never happened. It's an away win and a very important one, but the next few fixtures are worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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