hakka Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I've not seen this great Debuchy either. He's looked fluid and fast going forward, but he's had a few rapings at the back at times. I've also not really seen much to suggest he can cross or shoot better than Simpson either. Still, time is on his side. Get out of town. Simpson can barely kick a ball man unless it's off the goalline. I am being really harsh. Just not seen the assists or goals coming that position from him yet, but like I say time is on his side to supply that. Simpson's had years of practice and always looked shit. The only goal of his I can remember was the fluke over hit cross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Simpson is not fit to lace Debuchy's boots when it comes to crossing and the final ball. Worlds apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 We shouldnt be judging our right backs on goals, its clear as day that Debuchy is much more of an attacking threat than Simpson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Simpson is not fit to lace Debuchy's boots when it comes to crossing and the final ball. Worlds apart. I just wish Debuchy would show it because he hasn't yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Simpson is not fit to lace Debuchy's boots when it comes to crossing and the final ball. Worlds apart. I just wish Debuchy would show it because he hasn't yet. He isn't helped by the lack of bodies in the box. Most of the time he has a physically-dominated Cisse to aim for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Put one on a plate for Cisse against Reading (which was saved) and would have done the same against Southampton if the kid hadn't handled his cross and given us a penalty. That's off the top of my head. The best you can say about Simpson is a couple of shanked crosses that were turned in for own goals (Man Utd and Everton), apart from one peach of a cross for Carroll against the mackems. That's in four years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Delivering quality crosses has nothing to do with how many people are in the box FFS. Scoring from quality crosses, on the other hand. But he needs to start actually delivering these crosses first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Put one on a plate for Cisse against Reading (which was saved) and would have done the same against Southampton if the kid hadn't handled his cross and given us a penalty. That's off the top of my head. The best you can say about Simpson is a couple of shanked crosses that were turned in for own goals (Man Utd and Everton), apart from one peach of a cross for Carroll against the mackems. That's in four years. Two good crosses since January, well you have convinced me. I'm not going to defend Simpson though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Delivering quality crosses has nothing to do with how many people are in the box FFS. It does like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Delivering quality crosses has nothing to do with how many people are in the box FFS. It does like. So when he only has Cisse in the box he thinks "Na, not going to deliver one of those Beckham esq crosses today"? Na he's not playing to his full. Like i say, i'm sure he's a good player but people are inventing things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Simpson is not fit to lace Debuchy's boots when it comes to crossing and the final ball. Worlds apart. I just wish Debuchy would show it because he hasn't yet. I think he's done fine apart from the two heavy home defeats, when admittedly he looked a little off the pace. Was very good v Chelsea and our best player v Southampton. Part of the issue, the pressure on him to perform straightaway in that mess of defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 You can still put good balls into the box, without anyone actually getting on the end of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 You can still put good balls into the box, without anyone actually getting on the end of them. What would be the point of those crosses when no one's getting to them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Delivering quality crosses has nothing to do with how many people are in the box FFS. It does like. So when he only has Cisse in the box he thinks "Na, not going to deliver one of those Beckham esq crosses today"? Na he's not playing to his full. Like i say, i'm sure he's a good player but people are inventing things. Nobody's playing to their 'full' but it's simply not true to say that the quality of a cross is independent from the person on the end of it. You can still put good balls into the box, without anyone actually getting on the end of them. So if there's one player in the box (who's not particularly good in the air), marked by three big defenders, you should just put it in anyway and concede possession, for the sake of saying that you put a "good" cross in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 His crossing is better than Simpsons, it just is. Fair enough he hasn't regularly provided outstanding delivery but he can cross a decent ball. However we simply never have anyone in the box barring one man so anyone could be crossing in it would not matter, another embarrassing aspect of our attacking play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Delivering quality crosses has nothing to do with how many people are in the box FFS. It does like. So when he only has Cisse in the box he thinks "Na, not going to deliver one of those Beckham esq crosses today"? Na he's not playing to his full. Like i say, i'm sure he's a good player but people are inventing things. Nobody's playing to their 'full' but it's simply not true to say that the quality of a cross is independent from the person on the end of it. You can still put good balls into the box, without anyone actually getting on the end of them. So if there's one player in the box (who's not particularly good in the air), marked by three big defenders, you should just put it in anyway and concede possession, for the sake of saying that you put a "good" cross in? I agree, nobodys playing to their full. No i don't expect him to put crosses in regardless but then you have no evidence of his delivery or attacking abilities since he's been here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I think the arguements pointless. With a good manager, i'm sure he would flourish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Have to say I think things will turn really badly for Pardew if his team and tactics fuck it up on sunday - at probably the worst possible time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Debuchy was great till his injury against Wigan. Ignore the crossing for a moment, people are too fixated on that. But his ability to keep the attacks flowing , get in behind defences and endless cut backs to edge of box was fantastic in many games. Be it Chelsea, Swansea, Southampton etc etc even against Spurs he had a very good game. When Simpson gets the ball, the attacks slows down to a stand still or the opposition get the ball with Debuchy he either keeps the attack flowing just simply by being an option or driving opponents backwards. His end product would result in many many more goals if we just got more bodies in attack. For some reason since Sunderland we have become an un-organised mess and he's been apart of that but before that he was very good in all aspects even if we lost games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mavericknufc Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Going off the trusted bib theory looks like we're playing: Elliott Debuchy Taylor Colo M'biwa Cabaye Tiote Jonas HBA Cisse Gouffran 1-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Absolutely petrified to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Wish this was on tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Me too, I've thought it was a Saturday game all week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I'd play Santon over Mbiwa if he's fit enough .. We miss his overlaps from left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 What in the name of god is going on in here these days? We spent a large part of this season and last moaning about Simpson, Willo and Obertan being weak links in the side and they were quite regularly held up as reasons why we were playing hoofball. Now we're actually seriously debating whether Simpson should play ahead of first choice french international Debuchy. At least with Obertan the alternative was probably Shola so there might be a tiny case for him (as long as you forget the existence of Adam Campbell et al). This is just lunacy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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