Ryan_Taylor Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Despite the strange fawning love they always seem to have for managers, chairmen, owners, no matter how bad they are (party with Marty, Paolo's revolution etc, etc) even they must be starting to realise that in their predicament Tony "the charver" Pulis would have been a better choice than the egotistical Gus "the poo" Poyet ? Sunderland - like Newcastle are a difficult team to manage. Place & Pulis are a great fit. Palace would be delighted to have 5 consecutive years in the Premiership playing hoofball - despite producing some very talented footballers. Sunderland on the other hand..... make otherwise decent managers (based on previous jobs and current jobs MON & Bruce are decent) look terrible. Agree with all of that except that Bruce and MoN are good managers. O'Neills Villa were shocking to watch with their one dimensional football, and Bruce's myth is only perpetuated by his media muckers. We'll get beat off West Ham tomorrow, and that'll be us gone. To be honest I'll be relieved when it's over, then we can start clearing out the utter s**** that's been infesting our club for the last 5 years. If we have to suffer more than one season in the Championship, then so be it. You have signed a s*** load of players the last two windows haven't you? How many do you think will stay? Can they keep Virgini? Please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Still don't understand how Pardew can survive two 3-0 home defeats to these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Still don't understand how Pardew can survive two 3-0 home defeats to these. Because Ashley has successfully sucked all hope, fight and ambition from our fanbase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Despite the strange fawning love they always seem to have for managers, chairmen, owners, no matter how bad they are (party with Marty, Paolo's revolution etc, etc) even they must be starting to realise that in their predicament Tony "the charver" Pulis would have been a better choice than the egotistical Gus "the poo" Poyet ? Sunderland - like Newcastle are a difficult team to manage. Place & Pulis are a great fit. Palace would be delighted to have 5 consecutive years in the Premiership playing hoofball - despite producing some very talented footballers. Sunderland on the other hand..... make otherwise decent managers (based on previous jobs and current jobs MON & Bruce are decent) look terrible. MON isn't otherwise decent at all. Villa are still paying for his stint there. Ask brummie about how decent O'Neill is. Won trophies with Leicester had them comfortably Midtable. Took Celtic to UEFA Cup final and had some good runs in Europe with them. Had Villa challenging for top 4. Had some poor signings and wasted money but he had some successful signings. Prior to Sunderland he was never a manager who get involved in relegation scraps. He had his ceiling in the Premiership but never a bad manager. Until he joined Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I dunno Brummie was quite damning of his Villa days, got the feeling of a manager who'd passed his sell by date. Agree a lot of the problem at Sunderland is players not up to the task but don't think MON can escape the blame entirely. Paolo was always going to be a disaster, I think Gus has at times (especially against us, mind we couldn't have rolled over more for them) made them look solid but is working with terrible players, not sure he's great but I don't think he's done much wrong with them, the players just aren't very good and he's had to inherit them. Their transfer policy has got them in this mess imo. Bruce seems to be doing well with Hull tbh, I've liked them when they're playing well, granted they are very inconsistent. I'm not sure Sunderland would stay down forever even if they don't bounce back up, I suspect they will clear out the deadwood and be ok. I think we would have imploded way worse if we'd stayed down another season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 http://oi62.tinypic.com/ff0l20.jpg (Source: Sports Club Stats) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 http://oi62.tinypic.com/ff0l20.jpg (Source: Sports Club Stats) I like this, not sure how accurate it can be mind, would have thought Norwich would have less chance of going down than WBA. Maybe that's where opinion comes in, mine or theirs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Think the difference will be due to Norwich's horrible run in - think their last 4 games are the top 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Aye, just had a look, they've got WBA, Fulham then Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 WBA still have tottenham, man city & arsenal to play though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Yeah, it's Norwich and to an extent WBA who worry me about being shit enough to keep them up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 How the fuck did these beat us 3-0? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Nearly 60% cert to go down. wonder what that'll be after tomorrow night? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 How the fuck did these beat us 3-0? Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Think the difference will be due to Norwich's horrible run in - think their last 4 games are the top 4. could be significant, depends on the order, season could be over by the last two games tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Think the difference will be due to Norwich's horrible run in - think their last 4 games are the top 4. could be significant, depends on the order, season could be over by the last two games tho. last game arsenal- who could be out of the title by then, and thinking about an Fa cup final? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Think the difference will be due to Norwich's horrible run in - think their last 4 games are the top 4. could be significant, depends on the order, season could be over by the last two games tho. last game arsenal- who could be out of the title by then, and thinking about an Fa cup final? That's yourself your talking too there you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Think the difference will be due to Norwich's horrible run in - think their last 4 games are the top 4. could be significant, depends on the order, season could be over by the last two games tho. last game arsenal- who could be out of the title by then, and thinking about an Fa cup final? That's yourself your talking too there you know. Everton will probably push Arsenal all the way for 4th like. They'll need to keep winning in the league till/if Everton drop off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Despite the strange fawning love they always seem to have for managers, chairmen, owners, no matter how bad they are (party with Marty, Paolo's revolution etc, etc) even they must be starting to realise that in their predicament Tony "the charver" Pulis would have been a better choice than the egotistical Gus "the poo" Poyet ? Sunderland - like Newcastle are a difficult team to manage. Place & Pulis are a great fit. Palace would be delighted to have 5 consecutive years in the Premiership playing hoofball - despite producing some very talented footballers. Sunderland on the other hand..... make otherwise decent managers (based on previous jobs and current jobs MON & Bruce are decent) look terrible. Agree with all of that except that Bruce and MoN are good managers. O'Neills Villa were shocking to watch with their one dimensional football, and Bruce's myth is only perpetuated by his media muckers. We'll get beat off West Ham tomorrow, and that'll be us gone. To be honest I'll be relieved when it's over, then we can start clearing out the utter s**** that's been infesting our club for the last 5 years. If we have to suffer more than one season in the Championship, then so be it. You have signed a s*** load of players the last two windows haven't you? How many do you think will stay? If everyone leaves who I'd expect to leave I reckon we're taking on the Champo with a squad of Mannone (Hopefully) Laing Brown/Egan O'Shea Roberge Bridcutt Cattermole Ba Wickham/Karlsson Graham Scocco/Watmore Plus whoever we can bring in. I imagine we'll probably get Buckley from Brighton. Looking at that we'd still need two full backs, a centre half, a couple of midfielders at least one of which knows that league and a reserve keeper. And thats with me being optimistic and hoping a few kids can step up. If we go down careful planning is needed. Keeping Poyet is crucial, as is allowing him to build his own side from the ground up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Bucko would be a useful player in that league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Bucko would be a useful player in that league Bucko - Wicko - Watmo Cracking front three... - o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 You've needed 2 fullbacks for as long as I can remember tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Isn't Buckley a Newcastle fan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Isn't Buckley a Newcastle fan Yes, he is. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/232765/Brighton-1-Newcastle-0-Shear-bliss-for-Buckley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Just like Bruce, Chopra, Clark and Graham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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