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They'll easily be safe. Far too many winnable home games combined with the Defoe factor for them to really be in danger.

 

They might even win the NETD super-heavyweight-challenge-all-comers-undisputed-championship Grand slam of derby win AND finishing above us. Expect rivers of emotional tears and a spate of newborns named 'Gustavo'

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They've already had the likes of Hull, Everton, Swansea and Stoke at home this season and they've won a grand total of 1 game at home so far (out of 11 games).  Defoe's going to have to have a huge impact if they're to start winning enough to stay up easily.

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Haven't seen much of Sunderland this year but from what I can gather they're not particularly great at breaking teams down who are fairly well organised. They can definitely soak pressure up and are organised themselves but the remaining home games they're going to have to actively look to take the initiative, get at teams and force the pace. That doesn't really lend itself to the things they're good at so on the face of it the lesser teams at home should be banker wins but it may well not work out like that.

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Cisse scored in 8 consecutive games or something but it's all about Jermain

 

I would like to think Cisse and that Suarez bloke were both better but what do we know?

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Cisse scored in 8 consecutive games or something but it's all about Jermain

true but we were around the european spots when he signed (were we 5th?) and finished in the european spots so while he was good it didn't exactly vastly improve our fortunes. Long term deals the best is surely Vidic and Evra considering they were mainstays of the man utd team for 8 years and what they won in that time. Mikel Arteta was pretty damn good too for Everton.

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In other words, they have swapped a player with Toronto who, with the best will in the world, had become a joke on Wearside – albeit a fondly thought of one – for the closest thing you can get to guaranteeing goals in English football.

 

This forum is definitely hosted on some parallel universe like.

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Haven't seen much of Sunderland this year but from what I can gather they're not particularly great at breaking teams down who are fairly well organised. They can definitely soak pressure up and are organised themselves but the remaining home games they're going to have to actively look to take the initiative, get at teams and force the pace. That doesn't really lend itself to the things they're good at so on the face of it the lesser teams at home should be banker wins but it may well not work out like that.

 

That's a very good point, and there are a few teams like that nowadays in the PL. We were under Pardew, only sometimes not that good at soaking up pressure, but explains beating teams like Chelsea and such. Stoke are built in that manner too, look at their results and they do better against the better teams than expected and are often disappointing against the weaker teams. I think Southampton may be the best example of doing this right, even against us we had 16 shots and 56% possession to their 5 shots, yet still go the result.

 

Too many teams now adopt this negative mindset and when required to change can't do it. Sunderland struggle more than others because of the quality of their forward players, who bar the t*** that keeps scoring against us are pretty dire. They've attempted to remedy that by adding Defoe, which will probably be enough this year to keep them up considering the likes of Hull, Leicester, Burnley, Aston Villa and QPR are their competition.

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Haven't seen much of Sunderland this year but from what I can gather they're not particularly great at breaking teams down who are fairly well organised. They can definitely soak pressure up and are organised themselves but the remaining home games they're going to have to actively look to take the initiative, get at teams and force the pace. That doesn't really lend itself to the things they're good at so on the face of it the lesser teams at home should be banker wins but it may well not work out like that.

 

That's a very good point, and there are a few teams like that nowadays in the PL. We were under Pardew, only sometimes not that good at soaking up pressure, but explains beating teams like Chelsea and such. Stoke are built in that manner too, look at their results and they do better against the better teams than expected and are often disappointing against the weaker teams. I think Southampton may be the best example of doing this right, even against us we had 16 shots and 56% possession to their 5 shots, yet still go the result.

 

Too many teams now adopt this negative mindset and when required to change can't do it. Sunderland struggle more than others because of the quality of their forward players, who bar the t*** that keeps scoring against us are pretty dire. They've attempted to remedy that by adding Defoe, which will probably be enough this year to keep them up considering the likes of Hull, Leicester, Burnley, Aston Villa and QPR are their competition.

 

None of which they've managed to beat, funnily enough...

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Tor-Kristian Karlsen ‏@karlsentk  42m42 minutes ago

Read in Gazzetta this morning that Sunderland obliged to exercise £9M buy-option for Ricky Alvarez in case of staying up. Oh dear, if true

 

Barely played has he?

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Tor-Kristian Karlsen ‏@karlsentk  42m42 minutes ago

Read in Gazzetta this morning that Sunderland obliged to exercise £9M buy-option for Ricky Alvarez in case of staying up. Oh dear, if true

 

Barely played has he?

 

That's true. Was reported in most places in the summer, that if they stay up they are contractually obliged to pay the money not an option.

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Tor-Kristian Karlsen ‏@karlsentk  42m42 minutes ago

Read in Gazzetta this morning that Sunderland obliged to exercise £9M buy-option for Ricky Alvarez in case of staying up. Oh dear, if true

 

Barely played has he?

 

That's true. Was reported in most places in the summer, that if they stay up they are contractually obliged to pay the money not an option.

 

He's a half decent albeit lightweight 10, couldn't have been more unsuited to the way the play from the off given he doesn't have the fitness or graft to play in their back 9.

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At least they are prepared to invest money into the squad. They have bought some shite, but they may well get it right one day.

 

Not likely. The reason they have to spend that much money (fees and wages) is because they're an unattractive prospect for players.

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