cp40 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The way they are run, they'll get caught out eventually - the entire team and staff on short term deals to constantly try to survive. They'll never do anything other than fight relegation, or be relegated. Their manager is irrelevant, they still have a p*ss poor team. Mike Ashley has taken us from a regular in Europe to below these. We've only finished below these 1 more time than the 8 years leading up to Ashley haven't we? (2000 & 2001, 2009 to 2011?) probs, kind of meant right now today we are below them, and more intended as a remark about how far Ashley has overseen us fall- to be where SAFC are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I'd take Diabate ahead of Rivierre and Cisse. I'd take diabetes ahead of Rivierre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Some of the best derbies we had were in the 1st division (apart from the play off ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Mackem Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Quite happy if it's Allardyce. He's probably the best we can get at the minute, and hopefully he'll call the shots with Ellis Short and be left to run the team as he sees fit. I'll be gutted if he brings Nolan mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Allardyce will keep them up imo. He's the kind of manager that will keep them anywhere between 11th and 16th every season. We're 100% losing the derby in a few weeks if McClaren is still here too which will be even more painful with Allardyce as their manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Allardyce will keep them up imo. He's the kind of manager that will keep them anywhere between 11th and 16th every season. We're 100% losing the derby in a few weeks if McClaren is still here too which will be even more painful with Allardyce as their manager. They would win with Peter Reid back in charge. Fat Sham would keep them up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 are they doing that thing they do , when they get a new manager, every season,, and this time its it, this is the right man, the next level now etc etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 are they doing that thing they do , when they get a new manager, every season,, and this time its it, this is the right man, the next level now etc etc. The mackems are happy to just exist in the league so I'd say most would be delighted with Allardyce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Allardyce and Sunderland are a good fit imo. The fans will respond to the ugly, gritty stuff they're about to get. Their heroes are Kevin Ball and John Kay ffs. As long as they get stuck in the fans will lap it up all day long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 He'll be enough to beat us but not enough to stay up. Not this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 He'll be enough to beat us but not enough to stay up. Not this time. He's not generally an immediate impact manager without the right players though is he? As we saw. Hoping it takes time for his ideas to take root, a few weeks at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 [move]height=80http://i.imgur.com/1H6RmEH.png[/img] height=80https://www.essentiallycatering.co.uk/img/articles/issue9/liqueurs-advocaat.jpg[/img] height=80http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/44378738/5/stock-photo-44378738-leaves-small-green.jpg[/img] height=80http://static.c2w.com/uploads/question/image/04/73/36/N47336/file.jpg[/img] [/move] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 It would be poetic mind if his first Premier League relegation was with Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Looking more and more like Fat Sam. Do think he'll keep them up unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Looking more and more like Fat Sam. Do think he'll keep them up unfortunately. What is the Slughead stuff based on? Others ruling themselves out...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Looking more and more like Fat Sam. Do think he'll keep them up unfortunately. What is the Slughead stuff based on? Others ruling themselves out...? About to be offered the job according to the local rags. I would imagine he's probably missing the limelight as well as the cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 If they still had Wickham then maybe, but can they actually play long ball with the players they've got? Poor little Jermain is going to be an expensive bench warmer, and Graham won't keep them up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Now on SSN - they want him until the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I'm sure he'd keep them up. Get them organised etc. He'll love Clattermole that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Now on SSN - they want him until the end of the season. And then what ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Now on SSN - they want him until the end of the season. And then what ? John Carver happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Now on SSN - they want him until the end of the season. And then what ? Check next season's fixture list and give him a contract extension up to two weeks before they play us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 If they still had Wickham then maybe, but can they actually play long ball with the players they've got? Poor little Jermain is going to be an expensive bench warmer, and Graham won't keep them up They've got Fletcher who could probably do as a target man type until December. I'm pretty sure Sam would find a way to get them long balling it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Looks like Fletcher has decided to play for a bit now. I'd imagine him or Toivonen upfront. Lens is good going forward but he's not an Allardyce player really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Toivonen has done alright for them so far right? He'll be straight out of the team under Big Sam. Defoe will be shunted out wide a la Obafemi Martins. Going to be so damned ugly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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