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They deserved at least a point from that match tbf. Looks like they have found some determination. Cardiff going down surely

 

You're kidding for 80 minutes they were totally second best and Cardiff blew it with the subs they made

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It looks good because they came back but it's a shit point in the scheme of things, every team around them lost

 

It really isn't. They've been drawing rather than getting beat for weeks and every week somebody says it's a terrible result. They've kept themselves comfortably within touching distance with those points and will soon win a game or two and be in mid table.

 

On the plus side, they'd probably be safe by now if Poyet wasn't playing the thick as mince yank up front instead of Fletcher. Can only hope for an injury to the Korean lad as he's comfortably the best midfielder down at the bottom, fuck knows why he's out on loan.

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It looks good because they came back but it's a s*** point in the scheme of things, every team around them lost

 

It really isn't. They've been drawing rather than getting beat for weeks and every week somebody says it's a terrible result. They've kept themselves comfortably within touching distance with those points and will soon win a game or two and be in mid table.

 

On the plus side, they'd probably be safe by now if Poyet wasn't playing the thick as mince yank up front instead of Fletcher. Can only hope for an injury to the Korean lad as he's comfortably the best midfielder down at the bottom, f*** knows why he's out on loan.

 

Swansea have an option to recall in January apparently. Don't remember that happening in many cases though but yeah he looks decent.

 

They've not been beaten in 4 games.

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This is sickening.  Why won't they just fuck off?

 

:lol:

 

They're definitely not down yet like, it was never as simple as saying a team in their position had never stayed up.  They need to start winning these "winnable" home games, until we've seen how that goes in January/February (and also their transfer business in Jan) we'll not know where they're likely to end up.

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This is sickening.  Why won't they just f*** off?

 

:lol:

 

They're definitely not down yet like, it was never as simple as saying a team in their position had never stayed up.  They need to start winning these "winnable" home games, until we've seen how that goes in January/February (and also their business in Jan) we'll not know where they're likely to end up.

 

Think they are very lucky that there is a lot of poor teams down there. They possibly will still go down but I think it could be any 3 of 6 or 7. They need to get some results this next month, as from February they have the exact opposite of the top teams in away fixtures which they had for the home fixtures just gone. This will mean that there will be huge pressure on winning home games as they probably won't get many points on their travels away. Also will probably mean they will not get a run of wins together to pull clear.

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They are closing it down but still can't actually win games against anyone outside top 6, they can't afford to be 2-0 down in games and teams like Fulham/West Ham etc will pick up points along the way. It will go to last few weeks and they will be well amongst it.

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True, it's a good feeling for them to get such a late equaliser in a game they looked like getting nothing from for 80 mins, but they really could have needed all three points today. A point is something they should be slightly disappointed with, especially with the turmoil in Cardiff atm

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It's sounded for weeks in this thread that a lot of people are trying to kid themselves that they're as good as down.

 

Four points for the bottom side from Everton and Cardiff away and yet "they should be winning today"

 

If I thought the bottom side "should" be winning any away game, that would probably lead me to the conclusion that I didn't think they'd stay there.

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They have went unbeaten for 4-5 games and still at the bottom of league. I know only couple points but they still can't quite get there.

 

Mind if the other teams keep fucking about they will get out of it, but they have to win games against teams around them and they haven't won any against any team other than us, Man City and Everton. They struggle against teams around them

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20 out of 21 teams bottom at Christmas have gone down. I don't think they are going to be the second to stay up.

 

They had a shade of fortune against a managerless Cardiff but that doesn't mean a great deal. It's a bonus point - but it they're still bottom & their run in- iirc- is very difficult.

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